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==He lives on the Moon -- Really?==
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:I've added a quote by Caliendo, but a quote by Madden would be more appropriate in Madden's article. Haven't found one yet... <tt style="color:#161;">RadioKirk<small> ([[User:RadioKirk|u]]|[[User talk:RadioKirk|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/RadioKirk|c]])</small></tt> 02:47, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
:Found one. :) <tt style="color:#161;">RadioKirk<small> ([[User:RadioKirk|u]]|[[User talk:RadioKirk|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/RadioKirk|c]])</small></tt> 03:11, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
:Frank Caliendo should be mentioned on madden’s page: one comic made his career off of impersonating Madden - it illustrates how popular & beloved Madden was! [[Special:Contributions/2600:1016:B122:A389:95F0:FF1E:6472:4C4A|2600:1016:B122:A389:95F0:FF1E:6472:4C4A]] ([[User talk:2600:1016:B122:A389:95F0:FF1E:6472:4C4A|talk]]) 02:21, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
 
Why do people feel its important to mention that Frank Caliendo does an impression of him? Is that really vital information to people coming to this page looking for information about John Madden? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/75.68.229.247|75.68.229.247]] ([[User talk:75.68.229.247|talk]]) 04:12, 21 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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: I live in Canada, where hockey is king. Even then, the most well-known John Madden is this one. [[User:Kirjtc2|Kirjtc2]] 16:12, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
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Someone messed with the page and changed a bunch of stuff. Someone should fix it. I would myself but I'm too lazy.
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== 2 footballs on the field? ==
 
what does that mean?--[[User:Swainstonation|<sup><fontspan colorstyle="color:Red;">''The''</fontspan></sup>]][[User talk:Swainstonation|<sup><fontspan colorstyle="color:Blue;">''Nation''</fontspan></sup>]] 05:59, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 
== Fear of Flying ==
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He is 74 years old (with my calculation, paper and pencil/my dad got the same answer as me). 10 year old star student.[[Special:Contributions/24.118.173.196|24.118.173.196]] ([[User talk:24.118.173.196|talk]]) 01:06, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 
Well he is definitely dead now [[User:Neuapostolisch|LJ]] ([[User talk:Neuapostolisch|talk]]) 00:49, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 
== Are his parents really named Earl and Gary? ==
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At the beginning of the article, it says JM has been married to Mary Fields since Dec. 26th 1959. Later in the article, his wife's name is Virginia. Did he get a divorce? Did Mary change her name to Virginia?
:Please see his NBC bio [http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/25918111/ John Madden]. Her name is Virginia Fields. I see what you mean and will change it back. There is a lot of test edits or vandalism that goes on in this article. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Morenooso|Morenooso]] ([[User talk:Morenooso#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Morenooso|contribs]]) 16:24, 17 March 2010 (UTC)</span>
 
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== Hi ==
 
What time did he die [[Special:Contributions/50.221.22.81|50.221.22.81]] ([[User talk:50.221.22.81|talk]]) 00:33, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
* I don't believe it is known at this point. <span style="background-color: black">[[User:Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">Skarmory</span>]] [[User talk:Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">(talk •</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">contribs)</span>]]</span> 00:49, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 
: It's not, the NFL was the one to announce his death [[User:Neuapostolisch|LJ]] ([[User talk:Neuapostolisch|talk]]) 00:51, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 
== How much of this statement can be copied in as a quote box? ==
 
[https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2021%20Football%20Information/12%2028%2021%20-%20John%20Madden.pdf This] is a statement by [[Roger Goodell]]. I would like to copy it in as a [[Template:Quote_box|quote box template]], but I'm not sure how much of it is appropriate to copy in, and I also don't want to risk a copyvio. <span style="background-color: black">[[User:Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">Skarmory</span>]] [[User talk:Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">(talk •</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">contribs)</span>]]</span> 00:48, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 
: Aren't press releases fair game? I think that's the point of them, right? [[User:Neuapostolisch|LJ]] ([[User talk:Neuapostolisch|talk]]) 00:51, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
::Okay, I'll throw it in. I'm still new to this whole thing. <span style="background-color: black">[[User:Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">Skarmory</span>]] [[User talk:Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">(talk •</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">contribs)</span>]]</span> 00:54, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 
::: Me too! Totally get it. [[User:Neuapostolisch|LJ]] ([[User talk:Neuapostolisch|talk]]) 00:56, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 
== Died unexpectedly ==
 
Unexpectedly? He was 85, I don't feel like that was unexpected? Either way, feels like editorializing. [[User:Neuapostolisch|LJ]] ([[User talk:Neuapostolisch|talk]]) 00:57, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
Update: I found the page that said it was "unexpected" but it's a USA Today blog-type article, so my point stands. https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/john-madden-passes-away-at-85-nfl-world-reacts
 
:I don't know, he seemed like a pretty healthy guy. Not the image of fitness, but not obese either. I would have expected him to at least reach 90, or there to have at least been some sort of decline. Dying in the middle of "footballing" is pretty unexpected to me, at least. Who knows, though; Maybe there were signs along the way. Pretty odd that it hasn't been released yet, though. This guy is prolific. I mean, I would understand if the family wanted to keep it on the down-low, but its been a good few months now. Sorry for blabbing, though. Hope this finds you well. [[User:TheBooperOfDooper|TheBooperOfDooper]] ([[User talk:TheBooperOfDooper|talk]]) 16:58, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 
Update to the update: I guess the original wording from the NFL press release uses that language. I'm fine with it if someone wants to put it back in. [[User:Neuapostolisch|LJ]] ([[User talk:Neuapostolisch|talk]]) 01:04, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 
:Press release or not, I removed the adverb. If he was half his age, then it would be unexpected. '''[[User:CAWylie|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;">Wylie</span>]][[User talk:CAWylie|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;">pedia</span>]]''' @ 01:15, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
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== Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2021 ==
 
{{edit semi-protected|John Madden|answered=yes}}
Hey this is makenna madden the granddaughter of John madden who passed away yesterday I was wondering if I can edit your page a little bit I would say some more details about his life and add some family photos if I can thank you so much have a wonderful day [[User:Makennamadden77|Makennamadden77]] ([[User talk:Makennamadden77|talk]]) 02:52, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> If you detail the changes you would like added, along with [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], you can reopen this request and someone may make the changes for you [[User:Cannolis|Cannolis]] ([[User talk:Cannolis|talk]]) 03:47, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 
== Section ==
 
There needs to be an addition: “The broadcast years” [[Special:Contributions/2603:8090:2100:46:C17D:7F13:FE9A:C0B5|2603:8090:2100:46:C17D:7F13:FE9A:C0B5]] ([[User talk:2603:8090:2100:46:C17D:7F13:FE9A:C0B5|talk]]) 08:59, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
:See the section called "Sportscasting career". [[User:Larry Hockett|Larry Hockett]] ([[User talk:Larry Hockett|Talk]]) 09:05, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 
== John maddens death ==
 
He didn’t die at home he died in the car on his way to the doctors for a checkup and he didn’t wake up [[User:Makennamadden77|Makennamadden77]] ([[User talk:Makennamadden77|talk]]) 07:12, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
:{{re|Makennamadden77}} Can you provide a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] that can be cited?—[[User:Bagumba|Bagumba]] ([[User talk:Bagumba|talk]]) 10:39, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 
== Mention of Immaculate Reception ==
 
article erroneously states that the loss to the steelers via the immaculate reception took place in the afc championship game. it was however the afc divisional round. [[Special:Contributions/207.255.86.101|207.255.86.101]] ([[User talk:207.255.86.101|talk]]) 00:15, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 
== Cause of death ==
 
What did madden die from? Was it the family that chose not to reveal his cause of death or is it really true that even they don’t know what he died from? I’m very confused. [[Special:Contributions/2601:440:8680:7130:B96D:8F36:1855:C57|2601:440:8680:7130:B96D:8F36:1855:C57]] ([[User talk:2601:440:8680:7130:B96D:8F36:1855:C57|talk]]) 13:18, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
 
== I have tons of photos of our family and him… ==
 
I have many photos of our family… I’ve been lucky to be apart of the madden family and would love to share some of our last photos with him over the years if you would so kindly let me add them
….Makenna Madden [[User:Makennamadden77|Makennamadden77]] ([[User talk:Makennamadden77|talk]]) 17:46, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 
:{{u|Makennamadden77}}, hi. We would be grateful for any donated family photographs. For licensing purposes, we have the [[c:Commons:Volunteer Response Team|Volunteer Response Team]], which handles granting licenses for donated media. You can email them at permissions@commonswikimedia.org. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 18:05, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 
== The stats are wrong in the percentage columns for the regular season ==
 
In the win percentage column for the regular season, the average is given as 0.7529. This appears to have been done by summing the percentages in each row, then dividing them by number of seasons. However, the number of games vary depending on the season, so this gives an incorrect win percentage. From what I can see, win percentage is based on total wins out of total games. 103/142 gives a win percentage of 0.72535211 (standard rounding to 4dp would be 0.7254). Weirdly, the postseason percentage appears to be correct.
 
The wiki mirrors the source page information.
 
As a sidenote, the percentages aren't given as percentage values either. [[User:Weatherbeatenhollowsofsnow|Weatherbeatenhollowsofsnow]] ([[User talk:Weatherbeatenhollowsofsnow|talk]]) 00:22, 21 August 2024 (UTC)