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:Same issues as with pigeons, above. There is no case for using parenthetical naming. You're mistaking "Ancona chicken" as an assertion that that string is the name of the breed; but it's "Ancona" followed by natural disambiguation. No case has been made for violating [[WP:NATURAL]] policy and using parenthetical disambiguation to produce an unintuitive name like "Ancona (chicken)", which seems to refer to an individual notable chicken named "Ancona". No one is proposing that the official breed name is "Ancona Chicken", fully captalized like that (as it is for breeds in which the species name really is part of the formal breed name, as in [[:American Quarter Horse]] and [[:Norwegian Forest Cat]].<span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 16:38, 20 September 2014 (UTC)<p>PS: Why not move them back? Because it was already agreed, even by Jlan, over a month ago that a ''status quo ante'' revert would be a waste of time. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 06:43, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
::WP:Natural:
::::''"The title is one that readers are likely to look or search for and that editors would naturally use to link to the article from other articles. Such titles usually convey what the subject is actually called in English."''
::* example: The [[Sebright (chicken)]] is actually not called [[Sebright chicken]] in English. An editor familiar with the subject would never use it.
::WP:Natural expires when the [[WP:PRECISION]] criterion is not good enough. The natural disambiguation is one of three methods employed to avoid using an ambiguous title.
::* A result of the unreferenced, undiscussed mass-moves from [[BuZZ (chicken)]] to [[BuZZ chicken]] many titles are violating [[WP:PRECISION]], now. --[[User:PigeonIP|PigeonIP]] ([[User talk:PigeonIP|talk]]) 08:02, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
====Comment refering to [[:Category:Turkey breeds|turkey breeds]]====
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