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*[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]], you're being unfair to Justlettersandnumbers in some of the above comments. Look at the page history of this talk page, Anthony Appleyard copy-pasted RM/TR request here to start this discussion. And although that's the standard practice for technical requests that are contested, it has made rather a mess of things here because of the large number of articles in question and the fact the nomination is so clearly intended as a technical request, not a full RM. But that's not Justlettersandnumbers' fault. And regarding restoration of the status quo ante, that is policy – see the article titling bullet of [[WP:NOCONSENSUS]]. [[User:Jenks24|Jenks24]] ([[User talk:Jenks24|talk]]) 09:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
::Fair enough. I'll just <s>rescind</s> collapse-box the entire thing, rather than pick at the details, since it's probably not constructive anyway. Other than to note "This is now a regular move discussion for all the animals in the above list. It is a proposal (by [[User:Justlettersandnumbers]]) to put all of them back to their original titles", per EdJohnson, so I'm not the only one observing that this RM was in fact listed as a pointless mass-move request despite that being what we were going to {{em|not}} do. [[WP:NOCONSENSUS]] applies when there's a legitimate dispute. "Oppose everything SMcCandlish does no matter what it is" isn't one, meanwhile the names have stood with no troubles of any kind arising from them for months now (=new consensus, I'd say), and we all already had an agreement that we'd be forgoing the ''status quo ante'' reversion stuff as liable to be counterproductive. It's therefore disruptive and [[WP:LAME]] to have a huge pile of demanded ''status quo ante'' reverts here. I {{em|hope}} that the analysis and grouping of them I've done is enough that this mess can proceed in an orderly fashion. Meanwhile, I'm proceeding with other RMs, while avoiding any that would move "Foo (bar)" breed names to "Foo bar" ones, pending the outcome of this one. The upcoming ones I'm about to list are of a different nature, and properly grouped into separate multi-page RMs that focus on moves of the same exact kind. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 12:08, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
'''Comment'''. As must be obvious from the initial remarks in this discussion, this was not originally intended to be a move request; if it had been so intended it would have been formulated very differently, and posted at [[WT:WikiProject Agriculture]]. Some points:
* What's at issue here is whether or not to restore some hundreds of articles to the titles they were at before {{u|SMcCandlish}} moved them without discussion and without reference to the WikiProjects concerned or (that I'm aware of) to the few editors who actually contribute in this area (I'm thinking of {{u|BlindEagle}}, {{u|Steven Walling}}, {{u|JTdale}}, {{u|PigeonIP}}, {{u|Richard New Forest}}, {{u|Montanabw}}, {{u|Ealdgyth}}, I've surely forgotten many; and also, incidentally, myself).