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== Notable versus Non-notable ==

As the project creator, I wanted to start off to clarify notability for players and other subjects. I've given each a seperate header below, please discuss: [[User:BrianZ|<span style="color:Teal;">Brian</span><span style="color:Gray;">Z</span>]][[User talk:BrianZ|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:31, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

=== Players ===
- I consider anyone in the [[Volleyball Hall of Fame]] notable. The article for the Hall of Fame has a lot of red links that can be fixed with this project. 
- Anyone who has ever medaled on more than one Olympic team and gone on to compete or coach the sport. This would rule out the guys that play in the [[Olympics]], medal with one team and never play the sport competitively again. 
- Top money makers on the AVP Tour should be added as well to start. Once these players are more thorough, we can add the lower rank guys and girls.
- International players that are popular in their countries can be added/translated too. This is a main reason for the project. There are alot of articles for players in foreign countries that we can translate to English but I only know one language. 
- I do not consider high school phenoms notable and should not be added until at least their senior year of college or when they play for the national team. [[User:BrianZ|<span style="color:Teal;">Brian</span><span style="color:Gray;">Z</span>]][[User talk:BrianZ|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:31, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
: I'm gonna join your project but I want to make sure that this article is not to USA oriented, which the above text suggests. the Volleyball Hall of Fame is a typical american institution (just like almost all hall of fames are), but volleyball is a very international sport. There should definitely not be too much focus on american players or the AVP. -[[User:Catneven|Catneven]] 09:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
::I absolutely agree with your International take. I'm from the US and know american volleyball well, but part of the reason I started this project is to learn more about International play. I would like professional leagues from all over the world to be recognized, I just don't know much about them yet, so I haven't mentioned them. I mention Hall of Fame because it's a start and the HOF does recognize international players and coaches who affect the sport. It's an american instition because the sport was invented here. I hope that at some point we have members on the project that can help out with the international articles. [[User:BrianZ|<span style="color:Teal;">Brian</span><span style="color:Gray;">Z</span>]][[User talk:BrianZ|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:28, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

=== Subjects ===
Notable volleyball subjects include all world leagues and professional tours. Any amateur leagues or tournaments should not be included, i.e. Church leagues, Joe Shmoes USAV club team, etc. Variations on the sport are also notable

I do have a question for anyone reading. Do you feel we should have articles for rulebooks? I don't think so but I'm researching other sports projects to see what they have. [[User:BrianZ|<span style="color:Teal;">Brian</span><span style="color:Gray;">Z</span>]][[User talk:BrianZ|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:31, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
:And here as well; a tiny bit of USA orientation. In the Netherlands (my home country) the national volleyball league is very notable and has earned a lot of international respect as being one of the better leagues. It is however for the majority an amateur league.-[[User:Catneven|Catneven]] 10:00, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
:: Same as my above agreement, I only mention US organizations and leagues because that's all I know now. Let's get the international recognition going. [[User:BrianZ|<span style="color:Teal;">Brian</span><span style="color:Gray;">Z</span>]][[User talk:BrianZ|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

:About the rulebooks. I think we hould have one major article about volleyball rules, which should contain the IFVB rules. We can have seperate (small) articles about the differences in different countries (usa, netherlands), variations (Beach, impared).-[[User:Catneven|Catneven]] 10:00, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

:: I agree, that might be tricky but we can use color background to differentiate between differing rules. For instance, USAV follows FIVB rules but has changes to specific rules highlighted in grey when they differ for junior levels. As long as the colors aren't too distracting, that might be a great article. [[User:BrianZ|<span style="color:Teal;">Brian</span><span style="color:Gray;">Z</span>]][[User talk:BrianZ|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:36, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

:::What about something like what is used for [[Baseball]] - [[:Category:Baseball rules]]? While there, why not [[Volleyball Statistics]] like [[Baseball Statistics]][[User:BrianZ|<span style="color:Teal;">Brian</span><span style="color:Gray;">Z</span>]][[User talk:BrianZ|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:13, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

::::I don't know.  I just checked the [[baseball rules]] article and it's grotesque.  Perhaps we can modify the section from the [[volleyball]] article, shorten it in the main article and then revamp a new article based on the "main" rules and add variations there..  Cheers, [[User:PaddyM|PaddyM]] 01:12, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::This last remark should be put on the article talk page itself. I think something like this was proposed there as well.-[[User:Catneven|Catneven]] 09:42, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::Meaning that the creation of a rules article can be discusses here, but that the 'revamping' of the [[volleyball]] article should be discussed there.-[[User:Catneven|Catneven]] 09:46, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
::::In volleyball it not a common practice to keep statistics, other than uses for opponent analysis. The public is mostly not too interested in them.-[[User:Catneven|Catneven]] 09:42, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
::: I disagree, as a coach I use them constantly and many young players are asked to record stats while on the bench and alot of people are unaware of how statistics are used and why. I look into it further and maybe create a draft article for everyone else's review. [[User:BrianZ|<span style="color:Teal;">Brian</span><span style="color:Gray;">Z</span>]][[User talk:BrianZ|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
:::: My personal opinion is that stats aren't interesting ''to the general reader''. While it would be possible to make a page on the collection and use of volleyball statistics, I think that would be verging on being an instruction manual, not an encyclopedic article. That said, there do seem to be some [http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=volleyball+statistics&hl=en&lr=&btnG=Search academic papers] on volleyball statistics, which could be used as the basis for an article. Cheers --[[User:Pak21|Pak21]] 14:38, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

::: I also think we should not work towards a too detailed description of the rules. The bottom specifics of the rules can then be found in the links we provide too official rulebooks. This shoudl remain an encyclopedia and does not necessarily need to encompass an entire rulebook.-[[User:Catneven|Catneven]] 09:46, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

:::: Check out the page I created ([[Volleyball rules]]) Let me know what you think. My idea is to have articles for at least each section and break down rules, as well as major differences among larger organizations with color coded footnotes to the FIVB rules listed. [[User:BrianZ|<span style="color:Teal;">Brian</span><span style="color:Gray;">Z</span>]][[User talk:BrianZ|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

::::: Drop the "What is Volleyball" section; that is duplicating information in the main article for no particular reason. I'd also say that the listing of every section of the FIVB rulebook is unnecessary: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a reference manual. My personal view is that the page should focus more on the evolution of the rules over the years and the reasons for the changes, rather than just being a summary of the rulebook. Cheers --[[User:Pak21|Pak21]] 14:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

:I have [[WP:PROD|proposed deletion]] for [[Hunter Hitmen]], which appears to me to be a non-notable club. Cheers --[[User:Pak21|Pak21]] 19:23, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with that deletion. I saw it when I was assessing some of the million or so vball-related pages and had a note to nominate it myself.[[User:BrianZ|<span style="color:Teal;">Brian</span><span style="color:Gray;">Z</span>]][[User talk:BrianZ|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

===College Coaches===
I'm currently involved in a dispute over notability and could use some feedback.  [[Vera Shaver (volleyball coach)]] is the page in question, and it is a part of [[Malone College Athletics]].  One Wikipedia editor believes this article should be "speedy deleted" because of notability.  My stance is that she was a college coach and deserves at least a stub to match the other coaches of the program, if only to prevent redlining in coaches Navbox and team records.  Naturally, this article will likely be expanded as time goes on.  Opinions?--[[User:Paulmcdonald|Paul McDonald]] ([[User talk:Paulmcdonald|talk]]) 16:31, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

:I placed the speedy delete tag and do not believe Vera Shaver meetes the basic criteria of notability as specified in [[WP:Bio]].  [[User:Jons63|Jons63]] ([[User talk:Jons63|talk]]) 16:34, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

My other question:  why just this one coach?  There is a Navbox at the bottom of the page, and you can find other coaches that were only there one year.  Why was this coach singled out for deletion?  And if several of the other coaches are deleted, then we would have an incomplete information on this particular volleyball program.  Plus, as time goes on, we may find that these coaches have moved on to other coaching positions at other colleges and the articles can be further built.

It's all just a part of being complete and thorough.--[[User:Paulmcdonald|Paul McDonald]] ([[User talk:Paulmcdonald|talk]]) 16:37, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

::I hit [[Special:Random|Random Article]] and that is the article that came up. I didn't go any further and review articles that were linked from the article.  After the question was raised, I followed some of the links and there are other, IMO, non-notable coaches, but I thought I would see how this came out before going any further.  [[User:Jons63|Jons63]] ([[User talk:Jons63|talk]]) 16:45, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

:I saw these on [[Special:Newpages]] earlier and worried about them as well. Wikipedia's basic [[WP:N|notability]] guideline requires non-trivial coverage in independent publications, and I don't see any sign of this on any of the articles. That said, I don't think it's a speedy as there is an assertion of notability, but equally, it wouldn't stand up at AfD in its current form. With regards to the other coaches, [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS|other stuff exists]] is not a good argument. --[[User:Pak21|Pak21]] ([[User talk:Pak21|talk]]) 16:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

::I have declined to delete Vera Shaver on a speedy basis, in the hope that some sense can be worked out here.  However, in my view, if there's nothing to say about them apart from dates and win/loss record, list the coaches and their records in another article.  That way, at least their stats can be more easily compared.  Some references would be nice too... [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User_Talk:Bencherlite|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 20:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the confidence in the delay.  That will give some time for the Malone College sports information department to forward information and for other data to be compiled.  This will prevent having to re-make pages and we can still have a complete "package" of pages for coaches.--[[User:Paulmcdonald|Paul McDonald]] ([[User talk:Paulmcdonald|talk]]) 20:48, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

== Userbox ==

I propose this userbox:

{{Wikipedia:WikiProject_Volleyball/Userbox}}

:That looks very nice, let's add it. How about the image? I like it and might change the Project template image to this, but I think it's a little blurry when viewed larger, can you sharpen it? [[User:BrianZ|<span style="color:Teal;">Brian</span><span style="color:Gray;">Z</span>]][[User talk:BrianZ|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:31, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
:I also made a category for Project participants: [[:Category:WikiProject Volleyball participants]] we should change either my userbox or yours to make them the same. I tried but got confused, you seem to know more about the userboxes. [[User:BrianZ|<span style="color:Teal;">Brian</span><span style="color:Gray;">Z</span>]][[User talk:BrianZ|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:47, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
::This userbox is fixed. So lets use this one. it points to your category.-[[User:Catneven|Catneven]] 10:20, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

== DAB repair ==

Just a heads up to anyone who is in the business of creating a lot of articles for this project - try not to link to <nowiki>[[World League]]</nowiki> as it is nothing more than a DAB page.  Instead, make the link point to [[Volleyball World League]] instead.  I don't mind fixing the DAB links, but its so easily avoided.  Cheers, [[User:PaddyM|PaddyM]] 16:34, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that was me PaddyM, I'll do my very best to fix DAB links in the future. Thanks for the heads up. :) [[User:BrianZ|<span style="color:Teal;">Brian</span><span style="color:Gray;">Z</span>]][[User talk:BrianZ|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:26, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

== Can i Join the project ==

i wanna help you guy to improve the volleyball articles and i made [[FIVB World League 2007]] and 8 template



* FIVB World League
* Brazil Volleyball Squad 1984 Summer Olympics
* Brazil Volleyball Squad 1992 Summer Olympics
* Brazil Volleyball Squad 2004 Summer Olympics
* Brazil Squad 2002 FIVB Men's World Championship
* Brazil Squad 2006 FIVB Men's World Championship
* Brazil Squad 2006 Volleyball World League
* Brazil Squad 2007 Volleyball World League
* Brazil Squad 2003 Pan American Games


[[User:Wael.Mogherbi|Wael.Mogherbi]] 00:22, 15 July 2007 (GMT)

:Sure, just add your name to the list on the project page and list your specialties. [[User:BrianZ|<span style="color:Teal;">Brian</span><span style="color:Gray;">Z</span>]][[User talk:BrianZ|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:20, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


==Suggestion==

we should make an infobox for the players contain all there biography information

so i suggest the next template
{{Infobox volleyball player
|          playername = N/A
|               image = N/A
|            fullname = N/A
|         dateofbirth = N/A
|         cityofbirth = N/A
|      countryofbirth = N/A
|         dateofdeath = N/A
|         cityofdeath = N/A
|      countryofdeath = N/A
|              height = N/A
|            position = N/A
|         currentclub = N/A
|          clubnumber = N/A
|               years = N/A
|               clubs = N/A
|       nationalyears = N/A
|        nationalteam = N/A
}}

:: That looks good, but maybe a more universal color, green seems too dark for the header. I think that works for indoor players. I'd like to see one  beach players on the FIVB circuit as well as AVP in America and other pro leagues in other countries. Maybe a stat for years played and finishes. Some AVP pros have a template already but not something created by this project. [[User:BrianZ|<span style="color:Teal;">Brian</span><span style="color:Gray;">Z</span>]][[User talk:BrianZ|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

This sounds like a great idea, but I have a few questions. What kind of players are we talking about- olympic, famous,historical, or just any players..? And would we just allow anyone to contribute? How would we know when to delete their information? Or would we delete it at all? [[User:Kds57|Kds57]] ([[User talk:Kds57|talk]]) 18:09, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

==Questions about articles==
It would be good if this project could figure out some good standardizations between people and leagues and subjects so that coverage could be more balanced.  I just made the [[Dax Holdren]] article, and I'm not sure what conventions to use to improve it further.

Also, in an unrelated question, does the beach volleyball world tour have an article on here anywhere?  I wanted to link to it in regards to Holdren's past participation, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. [[User:Matt91486|matt91486]] 23:40, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

:: We are in the process of figuring out standardizations. You are welcome to help out with these for the articles. As for the beach volleyball league, do you mean the [[Fédération Internationale de Volleyball|FIVB Beach Volleyball league]]? I know the FIVB has a beach league, but the article doesn't really mention it. [[User:BrianZ|<span style="color:Teal;">Brian</span><span style="color:Gray;">Z</span>]][[User talk:BrianZ|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 02:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
::: I'm honestly not sure which one I meant; his AVP page references the 'World Tour' and I'm not familiar enough with non-AVP  play to know what precisely that refers to.  In an additional question, is there any way to simplify the coding for the beach volleyball player infobox?  I'd start adding it to players pages to get it started in use, but I'm just not sure where to begin with it. [[User:Matt91486|matt91486]] 21:14, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

== [[VBC Galina]] ==

I wonder if you guys could take a look at [[VBC Galina]] &ndash; newly created, I just saved it from a speedy deletion and sort of managed to assert [[WP:N|notability]]. It still needs a lot of work, and I've no expertise at all in that area. Thanks <span style="color:#00398d;font-family:Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;">&mdash; [[User:Alex.muller|alex.muller]] <small>([[User talk:Alex.muller|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Alex.muller|edits]])</small></span> 20:32, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

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If anyone on this project is still active, with the Olympics going on now it would be a great time to create some articles and improve some others because media sources will be especially easily obtained.  This would most impact articles that can be found at [[Volleyball at the 2008 Summer Olympics]], but it would be great to get some articles on older players created as well. I'm up for helping if anyone wants to work on some bigger projects as well. [[User:Matt91486|matt91486]] ([[User talk:Matt91486|talk]]) 17:33, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

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Hi folks, the templates {{tl|vb start}} & {{tl|vb end}} which are used to nest and restrict the width of the footer navboxes in articles were originally derived from the equivalent templates {{tl|fb start}} & {{tl|fb end}} used in football articles. The folks over at the football project have bitten the bullet and converted over their templates to be full width and to not require the use of these templates. You can see the discussion on this [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_41#.7B.7Bfb_start.7D.7D_et_al.|here]]. They are in the process of removing the many usages of the templates at the moment. Some of your project articles use the football templates, these could be changed to use the volleyball templates, but it would be good for consistency for your project to follow the lead of the football people and eliminate the use of these templates. Any comments? [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D|talk]]) 23:40, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

== Volleyball articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release ==

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== [[Template:Squad maintenance]] ==

I made [[Template:Squad maintenance]] that is intended to facilitate the updating of squad templates (including removing squad templates in former player articles). Please have a look at [[WT:WikiProject Football#Template:Squad maintenance]] for details and decide if it is also useful for this WikiProject. --[[User:Leyo|Leyo]] 15:22, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

== Cleanup on new articles ==

User [[Special:Contributions/Captain_Spaceman|Captain Spaceman]] have created Volleyball related articles that needs a cleanup:[[Special:Contributions/Captain_Spaceman]]. <span style="font-family:Kristen ITC;">[[User:Bib|<span style="color:#ff0000;">B</span><span style="color:#ff6600;">i</span><span style="color:#009900;">b</span>]]</span> ([[User Talk:Bib|talk]]) 22:53, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

== New template [[Template:Student athlete]] ==

Feel free to help fill in [[Template:Student athlete]] by adding new articles or creating articles for redlinks.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|C]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|BIO]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:FOUR]]) </small> 18:55, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

==Your opinions and advice==
A recently discussion [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Women's Sport]]. Your opinions and your advice are welcome. --[[User:Genevieve2|Geneviève ]] ([[User talk:Genevieve2|talk]]) 22:57, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

== Inclusion/transclusion of Template:Volleyball ==

Hello there.

While editing the volleyball pages of the 2008 Summer Olympics, I noticed that the template [[Template:Volleyball]] was included in virtually every page, despite that the pages were not linked to from the template. I assumed this was a copy-paste mistake, so I started removing it. In my opinion, templates should only be included in pages that the template links to, however there might be another concensus here. Is there such a concensus?

After removing the template from some 20-30 <s>messages</s> articles, I got a <s>notice</s> message from [[User:Mohsen1248|Mohsen1248]], questioning my removal of the template, and threatening to keep re-adding it if I keep removing it.

Before this blows into a full-scale edit war, I'd like to start a discussion on this issue here (on where the template should be included, not on edit-warring). I hope this is the right place for the discussion.

I have copy-pasted the discussion between me and Mohsen1248 below (from my talkpage).

Cheers.

[[User:HandsomeFella|HandsomeFella]] ([[User talk:HandsomeFella|talk]]) 16:38, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Btw, I think the template should be named '''Template:International volleyball'''.

----
Please stop removing Template:volleyball from individual page. it's common in wikipedia. the same situation in Handball, Basketball, Football, see [[2010 FIFA World Cup]], [[2010 FIBA World Championship]] and etc. I will revert your edits. [[User:Mohsen1248|Mohsen1248]] ([[User talk:Mohsen1248|talk]]) 14:49, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
:We can't have this template included on every page mentioning volleyball. A template is typically included on the pages that it links to. "Template:Volleyball"  does not link to the individual occurrences (years) of the tournaments. Thus, the template should be included on pages '''FIVB World League''', '''FIVB World Grand Prix''', etc, '''''but not''''' the indiviual years such as '''2011 FIVB World League''', '''2011 FIVB World Grand Prix''', etc. Please start a discussion to obtain concensus, but don't revert until one is reached (and only if it ends up favouring your opinion). Cheers. [[User:HandsomeFella|HandsomeFella]] ([[User talk:HandsomeFella#top|talk]]) 15:00, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
:: why we can't ? what's the logic ? I know the 3RR rule and I won't break it. it's common, if you have problem start discussion and then remove it from all sports pages. as of now, I will revert your edits as much as rules allow. then I wate 24 hours to revert it once again and I won't stop it. cheers. [[User:Mohsen1248|Mohsen1248]] ([[User talk:Mohsen1248|talk]]) 15:21, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

:::Don't be so childish. If you know the 3RR rule, then you know it should not be perceived as if everyone has "a right" to revert the same page 3 times within 24 hours. It's still edit-warring, and furthermore, it could be viewed as [[WP:Gaming|gaming the system]]. Besides, you can spend your time and effort more constructively than following me around and reverting my edits.

:::I'll explain the logic to you. If you have a template called "Events at the 2003 Pan American Games", it's logical that it links to all events of those games. It's also logical that it is included in the pages covering the events, e.g. "Volleyball at the 2003 Pan American Games", thus enabling simple cross-navigation between the different events.
:::Following the same pattern, "[[Template:Economy of Europe]]" links to articles like "Economy of Germany", "Economy of Greece", etc. It is included in exactly those pages, '''but not''' in every page mentioning "Europe" or "economy" (or possibly both).

:::The same goes for [[Template:Volleyball]] (although I think it should be named '''Template:International volleyball'''). It links to the main international regulatory bodies, the recurring international tournaments, etc. It does not link to the individual tournaments (years), and thus it should not be included in them. The reasons: 1) it's not logical, per above, 2) it will make virtually every single issue of every single tournament link to the pages in the template, thereby pointlessly overwhelming the "what links here" pages. If you take a look at [[Template:Economy of Europe]], you'll find that the number of pages including that template is rather limited (to the number of countries in Europe, to be exact).

:::Hope you'll find this logical.

:::Cheers. [[User:HandsomeFella|HandsomeFella]] ([[User talk:HandsomeFella#top|talk]]) 16:17, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
*This minor difference of opinion seems to have got heated really quickly! A bit of relaxation is needed. In my opinion, the guidelines at [[WP:NAVBOX]] are quite good ones. Specifically: "The articles should refer to each other, to a reasonable extent." The links on [[Template:Volleyball]] do not get reasonably referred to in [[2011 FIVB World Grand Prix]], for example (as a matter of fact, of the 35 links present in that template, only one article – [[FIVB World Grand Prix]] – is linked in the article at the moment). It is not foreseeable that more than two or three of these topics will ever be linked.
*A more satisfactory solution would be to create a new template based upon the articles in [[:Category:2011 in volleyball]] – it's a lot more likely that someone reading an article about a specific year's event will want to know what else happened that year, rather than find general information on completely different competitions. [[User talk:Sillyfolkboy|SFB]] 18:34, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
::::According to [[WP:NAVBOX]] Navigation boxes should be included only in those pages that have links on it. I hope everyhing will remain calm and effort is made when needed and where needed. We have a lot of articles needing wikification, unreferences BLP, and many more. Being aware of removing and including an infobox where is not belong, simply is a waste of time. [[User talk:Osplace|Oscar]] 00:08, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
::It heated up quickly, you're right about that (check my talkpage, more was added after I copied it here). Right from the start Mohsen set out to revert me, without bothering to wait for an explanation. But things seem to have calmed down now. I have stopped removing the template until there is a consensus here, and Mohsen stopped short of reverting me a fourth time within 24 hours.
::Great idea, a template based on years in (international, I assume) volleyball. From a "Template:2011 in international volleyball" we could have all international tournaments of the year collected. [[User:HandsomeFella|HandsomeFella]] ([[User talk:HandsomeFella|talk]]) 07:48, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
:::[[Template:2011 in tennis]] is a working version of this idea for a different sport. [[User talk:Sillyfolkboy|SFB]] 22:43, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
::::Wow, that tennis template looks awesome! Is a great idea! [[User talk:Osplace|Oscar]] 02:02, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
::I interpret the discussion above as support for my position that "Template:Volleyball" should be removed from the individual occurrences (years) of international tournaments, and that templates for each year in volleyball instead could be created and added to the same articles. Anyone against? [[User:HandsomeFella|HandsomeFella]] ([[User talk:HandsomeFella|talk]]) 20:32, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
:::::I agree in both items. [[User talk:Osplace|Oscar]] 02:26, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

== WikiWomen's History Month ==

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Volleyball will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in volleyball. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: [[Wikipedia:WikiWomen's History Month|WikiWomen's History Month]]. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! [[User:SarahStierch|SarahStierch]] ([[User talk:SarahStierch|talk]]) 21:13, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

== [[:Template:Volleyball kit]] errors ==

[[Avignon Volley-Ball]] is pointing to the missing file [[:File:Kit_body_FFFFFF.png]] and after a little bit of investigating, I noticed that the dead link is caused by the [[:Template:Volleyball kit|Volleyball kit]] template generating links to images which do not exist.

I reckon that the template should be changed so that it clearly throws an error if the images don't exist (and possibly create a link to upload an image for that kit colour).

Kind regards, [[User:Matt Heard|Matt]] ([[User talk:Matt Heard|talk]]) 03:20, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

==RfC on the use of flag icons for sportspeople==
An [[WP:RFC|RfC discussion]] about the [[MOS:FLAG]] restriction on the use of flag icons for sportspeople has been opened at [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons]]. We invite all interested participants to provide their opinion [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons#RfC on MOS:FLAG|here]]. [[User:Qwyrxian|Qwyrxian]] ([[User talk:Qwyrxian|talk]]) 02:43, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
:Interesting. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 22:51, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

== Requested move at [[Talk:VakıfBank Türk Telekom]] ==

Greetings! I have recently relisted a [[WP:RM|requested move discussion]] at [[Talk:VakıfBank Türk Telekom]] regarding the page "[[VakıfBank Türk Telekom]]." Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, [[User:Tyrol5|<span style="color:#960018;">'''Tyrol5'''</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Tyrol5|<span style="color:#960018;">[Talk]</span>]]</small> 02:02, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

== Portal:Sports is up for featured portal consideration ==

{{Portal|Sports}}
This is a courtesy message to inform the members of this project that I have nominated [[Portal:Sports]] for featured portal status. The discussion is at [[Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Sports]]. The featured portal criteria are at [[Wikipedia:Featured portal criteria]]. Please feel free to weigh in. [[User:Sven Manguard|<span style="color:#207004;">'''<big>S</big>ven <big>M</big>anguard'''</span>]] [[User talk:Sven Manguard|<small><span style="color:#F0A804;">'''Wha?'''</span></small>]] 18:40, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

== Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2013 Girls' School European Volleyball Championship Cup ==

All input from project members (and non-members) at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2013 Girls' School European Volleyball Championship Cup]] is welcome. I nominated these articles based on what I noticed and could check, but I'm no volleyball expert. [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 08:58, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
==File deletions==
We strongly support free files, all non-free images should be delete. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 23:53, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
:Logos are usually non-free, thus why we have the non-free use criteria ([[WP:NFCC]]) -- [[Special:Contributions/70.24.244.158|70.24.244.158]] ([[User talk:70.24.244.158|talk]]) 07:39, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
::I have nominated the rebundant .jpg file. You are right, logos are usually non-freel. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 16:02, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
* [[:file:Thailand Volleyball Association logo.png]] currently has a fair-use rationale attached, if you believe all non-free images should be deleted, you'll need to nominate it for deletion at [[WP:FFD]] -- [[Special:Contributions/70.24.244.158|70.24.244.158]] ([[User talk:70.24.244.158|talk]]) 07:55, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

===File:๋JapanVolleyballlogo.jpg===
[[:File:๋JapanVolleyballlogo.jpg]] has been nominated for deletion -- [[Special:Contributions/70.24.244.158|70.24.244.158]] ([[User talk:70.24.244.158|talk]]) 07:17, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

===AustraliaVolleyballlogo.jpg===
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===ThailandVolleyballlogo.jpg===
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===VietnamVolleyballlogo1.jpg===
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===AustraliaVolleyballlogo.png===
[[:Image:AustraliaVolleyballlogo.png]] has been nominated for deletion -- [[Special:Contributions/70.24.244.158|70.24.244.158]] ([[User talk:70.24.244.158|talk]]) 07:39, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

===VietnamVolleyballlogo.png===
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== Notability guide for volleyball ==
Since there is not a notability guide exclusively for '''volleyball''' under the [[Wikipedia:Notability (sports)]], I am proposing a [[User:Osplace/Volleyball notability|draft here]], that we should discuss. Feel free to give your own ideas. Please be open and bold when entering the discussion. Extensive participation is encouraged. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 17:05, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

===Professional and college players===
How are domestic volleyball leagues shown on TV? How many have most of their matches shown on free TV? Basic cable? Premium cable, etc? How about U.S. NCAA volleyball players? How about competitive national volleyball teams that can't quite win a medal?

The reason I'm asking this is if a volleyball league has most of its games aired on free TV, that means there's a large enough following for it; therefore, its players must be more notable than say, leagues showing on cable or not at all. –'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">H</span>]][[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">T</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">D</span>]]''' 05:15, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
:What is your proposal about this? Remember this is English Wikipedia. How would a proper line read to take your idea into account? [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 16:48, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
::Playing on any professional team for any sport makes someone notable doesn't it?  Volleyball isn't any different than other sports, just less popular as far as viewership is concerned. [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 01:18, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
:::We can read about this topic in [[Wikipedia:Notability (sports)]]. Association Football for example, and baseball also. Volleyball leagues are not a big deal beyond Brazil, Europe and some asian countrys. How would we include this? Accept any domestic league winner? Probably not. Please elaborate this topic with proposals. Thanks. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 03:07, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
:::: As what was said here, volleyball leagues aren't that popular; volleyball competitions are more into national teams. As for domestic volleyball leagues, there must be a handful of leagues that are aired on free TV. If there are such leagues, mere participation (or playing at least one game) should be enough. –'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">H</span>]][[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">T</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">D</span>]]''' 03:55, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
::::: We should have a list [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues|like this WikiProject Football list]]. Giving notability to every participant will be really wide, but we should consider this proposal from [[User talk:Howard the Duck|Howard]]. But what about USA NCAA Volleyball division I for [[NCAA Men's National Collegiate Volleyball Championship|men]] and [[NCAA Division I Women's Volleyball Championship|women]] players/coachs? This college league is really strong, receive quite a big cover on the media and have very organized official reports. Should we give notability to every participant? Just the NCAA winners? What about the [[Universiade]]? [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 22:07, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
::::::AFAIK, the USA NCAA basketball and football players aren't automatically notable unless they did something (something to what is being proposed here). As for the Universiade, I dunno about volleyball, but basketball is essentially a "national team" of under-23 players.
::::::Just how many teams are there in professional volleyball leagues? If there are only a few, and there are also a few professional volleyball leagues that are truly notable (air on free TV), then we'd only have a small pool of automatically notable articles. Now the question is if the rest of Wikipedia is willing to have sub-stubs of an article like the French communes such as [[Bédarrides|this one]] about volleyball players. –'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">H</span>]][[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">T</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">D</span>]]''' 01:35, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Meant Universiade Volleyball notability dropped? About Pro-Players I would like to recall the ''List of Professional volleyball leagues''. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 03:30, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
::::::::I dunno about Universiade as that's still an Under-23(?) tournament. As for a list of pro volleyball leagues, this is a good way to go; football already has a list. If a player didn't play on any league on that list, s/he's not notable unless s/he played on a FIFA-recognized national team. –'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">H</span>]][[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">T</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">D</span>]]''' 08:54, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

===Individual award winners===
One of the things that all Volleyball competitions have are Individual player awards, maybe players that have won numerous awards in mayor competitions should be included in the list, an example is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Lise_Van_Hecke Lise Van Hecke]. --[[User:ShadowMkf|<span style="color:#191970; font-family:'Comic Sans MS'">'''ShadowMkf'''</span>]] [[User talk:ShadowMkf|<span style="color:#4682B4; font-family:'Comic Sans MS'"><small>Talk</small></span>]] 05:14, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
:: Winning ''many'' individual awards is not enough for notability in any sport as seen at [[Wikipedia:Notability (sports)]]. However is should be a new guideline that I '''do not''' support. Lise Van Hecke is notable for winning a bronze medal at the [[2013 Women's European Volleyball Championship|‎2013 '''Senior''' European Championship]]. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 16:17, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
::: I don't think we should base notability on winning individual awards on a team sport, or even the achievements of the player's team to find out whether s/he is notable or not. I'd be swayed if this was on a sport played by individuals such as tennis or even beach volleyball, where individual performance is the difference between winning and losing. –'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">H</span>]][[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">T</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">D</span>]]''' 19:53, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

===National team participants===
: Hi [[User:Osplace|Osplace]]! Thank you for your invitation. I'm not much experienced in discussing of guidelines. However, I guess instead of mentioning "Pan American Games, Asian Games" explicitly, it should be wiser to cover them by general definitions, such as "continental championships, games etc.". Otherwise, a detailed list is necessary to avoid disputes. Cheers. --CeeGee 18:16, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
:: There are continental and regional games, we should try to find the appropiate text to cover each one. For example: [[Pan American Games]] are different category from [[Central American and Caribbean Games]], but we also have [[Central American Games]], way inferior category. Our notability guide should be clear about notability under each category. Continental Games medalist, Regional games gold medalist, and so on. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 19:57, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
:::For convenience, I propose a notability table in the form shown in the "example" below. I guess this can be very useful for beginners, prevent disputes and helpful for checks. --CeeGee 10:35, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
{|class=wikitable
|-
|+ Notability criteria
|-align=center
|width=200|'''Event'''
|bgcolor=gold width=75|'''Gold''' </br> medalist
|bgcolor=silver width=75|'''Silver''' </br> medalist
|bgcolor=cc9966 width=75|'''Bronze''' </br> medalist
|width=75|'''Participation''' </br> only
|-align=center
|align=left |[[Summer Olympics]] ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes 
|-align=center
|align=left |[[Paralympics]] ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes 
|-align=center
|align=left |[[World Championship]] ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no 
|-align=center
|align=left |[[World Cup]] ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no 
|-align=center
|align=left |[[European Championship]] ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no  
|-align=center
|align=left |[[European Cup]] ||bgcolor=00FF00 | yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 | yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 | yes ||bgcolor=FF0000 | no 
|-align=center
|align=left |[[European League]] ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no  
|-align=center
|align=left |[[Mediterranean Games]] ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no
|-align=center
|align=left |[[Islamic Solidarity Games]] ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no
|-align=center
|align=left |[[Balkan Games]] ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=FF0000 | no ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no
|}

:::: Here we have, dear CeeGee, the problem I mentioned before, there are a lot more Games, and there are many different categorys. According to a general guideline in [[Wikipedia:Notability (sports)]], ''participating in a Senior World Championship is enough for being notable''. Note: This means '''Senior''' competitions, not Junior Championships neither world not continentals. In the other hand, we have to work with [[WP:MOS]] and probably this colorful table would not look appropiate in [[Wikipedia:Notability (sports)]], but probably we may include this one in the main WikiProject Volleyball page. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 16:17, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

::::: This is my propossal. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 16:28, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
{|class=wikitable
|-
|+ Notability criteria
|-align=center
|width=200|'''Event'''
|bgcolor=gold width=75|'''Gold''' </br> medalist
|bgcolor=silver width=75|'''Silver''' </br> medalist
|bgcolor=cc9966 width=75|'''Bronze''' </br> medalist
|width=75|'''Participation''' </br> only
|-align=center
|align=left |[[Summer Olympics]] ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes 
|-align=center
|align=left |[[Paralympics]] ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes 
|-align=center
|align=left |[[World Championship]] ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes 
|-align=center
|align=left |[[World Cup]] ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no 
|-align=center
|align=left |[[FIVB Volleyball World Grand Champions Cup|World Grand Champions Cup]] ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no  
|-align=center
|align=left |[[FIVB Club World Championship|Club World Championship]] ||bgcolor=00FF00 | yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 | yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 | yes ||bgcolor=FF0000 | no 
|-align=center
|align=left |Continental Games ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no  
|-align=center
|align=left |Continental Championships ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no
|-align=center
|align=left |Regional Games ||bgcolor=00FF00 |yes ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no
|-align=center
|align=left |Junior Competitions ||bgcolor=FF0000 | no ||bgcolor=FF0000 | no ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no ||bgcolor=FF0000 |no
|}
::Seems to be satisfactory to understand easily if it covers every type of competition. Thanks. --CeeGee 21:01, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
:::But, as I mentioned before, we cannot use this table in [[Wikipedia:Notability (sports)]], it would not comply [[WP:MOS]]. But instead we will have to use text like the one in the [[User:Osplace/Volleyball notability|draft shown here]]. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 03:00, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
::::As for national teams, football (soccer), basketball, rugby, cricket and perhaps handball's notability "floor" for national teams is to play at least one game. Is there a FIVB equivalent for FIFA's "Class A" national team matches? –'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">H</span>]][[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">T</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">D</span>]]''' 03:55, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
::::The FIVB accounts National Team participation adding junior and senior level. We can find in a [http://www.fivb.org/EN/volleyball/competitions/WorldGrandPrix/2013/Players.asp?Tourn=WGP2013&Team=ALG&No=112540 profile] with Olympic, World Championships and Others national caps. FIVB do not make any difference between Junior/Senior caps. This would really be a problem taking this into account, but is ''something''. We discussed above Howard, another proposal about National team participants. Can you please join this discussion? Thanks. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 22:07, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::Since we have to draw a line on somewhere, why not making anyone that competed in the Olympics, World Championship, World Cup, World Grand Champions Cup and qualifying matches to those automatically notable? Just that no one's should make an article for every person who has played one match right now? A national team appearance for other team sports usually means that the athlete is automatically notable. I'm willing to be convinced for the World Cup and World Grand Champions Cup but I'm not into using team or individual achievements as the basis of notability in team sports. –'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">H</span>]][[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">T</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">D</span>]]''' 01:44, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::Another option is instead of having a "awards-based" system on determining notability, why not a "merit-based" system? For example, instead of limiting it to gold medalists in a continental championship such as the [[Asian Volleyball Championship]], why not limit it to players who have played at least four times? In that way, we leave the door open to teams which can't quite barge into the top 3, but are "veterans" in the said tournament. –'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">H</span>]][[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">T</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">D</span>]]''' 13:35, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
::::::According to [[WP:LEAD]], The lead section (...) ''"should define the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable"''... Then we would have something like: '''Garaotos Jurney''' is a Japanese volleybal player who four times played the Asian Volleyball Championship. ???? I would not like to see this. Yes, I would like to stay in Olympics, and WCH participations and medals. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 03:30, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::::: In several team sports, qualifying to the continental championship is a big deal. I know volleyball isn't as big as football or even basketball but restricting it to Olympics and World Championship participating teams restricts the number a far great deal. "'''Garaotos Jurney''' is a Japanese volleybal player who four times played the Asian Volleyball Championship." certainly establishes that player's notability. A national team member playing in a continental championship is a big deal. –'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">H</span>]][[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">T</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">D</span>]]''' 08:56, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
::::::: I'm almost agree with these tables, but I don't think tournaments like "Islamic Games" or "Mediterranean Games" deserve any importance at all, even for gold medalists. and on other hand, World Championship is the 2nd important tournament in the world. I think even participating in World Championship can make them notable. [[User:Mohsen1248|Mohsen1248]] ([[User talk:Mohsen1248|talk]]) 03:51, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
: Speaking of notability, I nominated these U-19/U-21 teams for deletion [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iran men's national under-19 volleyball team|here]], I hope you guys join the discussion. [[User:Mohsen1248|Mohsen1248]] ([[User talk:Mohsen1248|talk]]) 15:36, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

The [http://www.fivb.org/en/volleyball/Rankings.asp computation] of the [[FIVB World Rankings]] it seems that their most important tournaments are Olympics, Senior World Championships and World Cup (all three have the same weight), followed by World League and World Grand Prix. <s>I can't find how continental championships get in the mix.</s> Since we have this information, the lowest number of points a team can get from the "Tier I" tournaments is 20 (except for the 5 points for the World Cup laggards). I'd say winning "20" points in the rankings is a good idea for a minimum for being notable, if you guys are going into the "achievement" route. This eliminates the regional championships and games. With 20 ranking points as the minimum, we'd get:
#All teams in the World Championship
#All teams in the Olympics
#Top 8 teams in the World Cup
#Top 6 teams in the World League and World Grand Prix
#Top 3 teams in the continental championships
#None for everything else (regional and continental games, regional championships, qualifying for the world championship, Olympics and continental championships)
I dunno if you guys can accept Top 10 teams in the junior and youth championship. –'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">H</span>]][[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">T</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">D</span>]]''' 15:14, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
::::::I do not agree the ''none for everything else'' position: This games are widely covered, are such a big deal regionally. Neither junior and youth championships, most of the player will not make it to any league or senior national team or any kind of notability at all, they should wait a little more ''to be notable''. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 01:19, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Spelthorne Volleyball Club]] ==

Hello, volleyball enthusiasts!  I was trying to review the above article at Afc. It obviously needs some reliable sources, but I can't find anything about volleyball at [[WP:Notability (sports)]], and I wanted to add a comment about that.  Can someone here give an opinion? &mdash;[[User:Anne Delong|Anne Delong]] ([[User talk:Anne Delong|talk]]) 17:01, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
:This request was replied and is still on hold. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 01:21, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Nikolina Kovacic]] ==

Dear volleyball experts:  This stale Afc draft is about to be deleted unless someone improves it.  Is this a notable player?  &mdash;[[User:Anne Delong|Anne Delong]] ([[User talk:Anne Delong|talk]]) 20:41, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
: {{done}} [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 02:31, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
:: Player meets [[WP:SPORTCRIT]]. Good to go. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 02:41, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Thanks, [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]].  I have moved it to mainspace.  &mdash;[[User:Anne Delong|Anne Delong]] ([[User talk:Anne Delong|talk]]) 04:43, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Klonarda Nezaj]] ==

Dear volleyball experts:  This article was created in Afc, but never submitted to be added to the encyclopedia.  Is this a notable player, and should the article be saved from deletion as a stale draft?  &mdash;[[User:Anne Delong|Anne Delong]] ([[User talk:Anne Delong|talk]]) 04:34, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
:Player do not cover any policy concerning to notability. Not notable at all. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 17:39, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you.  I have nominated it for deletion.  &mdash;[[User:Anne Delong|Anne Delong]] ([[User talk:Anne Delong|talk]]) 00:09, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

== A discussion at [[WP:ANI]] that might be of interest ==

There is a discussion at [[WP:ANI]], specifically [[WP:ANI#String of Volleyball Thailand League pages|this section]], that may be of interest to project members. -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]]'''[[User talk:Atama|<span style="color:#000">頭</span>]] 19:46, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
:We cordially answered this petition. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 17:09, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

== Some drafts to sort out ==

Could someone please advise on these:

*[[User:UAAP 77]]
*[[User:NCAA 90]] (this editor also edits UAAP 77)
*[[User:Season 90/NCAA Season 90]]
*[[User:NCAA Season 91]] (seems to be about basketball)
*[[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/UAAP 77/Premiere Volleyball League]]
*[[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Premiere Volleyball League]]

Many thanks, [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak|talk]]) 04:34, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
: After my own reasearch, seems that any of this qualify. They all fail to [[WP:ORIGINAL]] or [[Wikipedia:Notability]], mostly both at the same time. Thanks for sharing, [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 03:29, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you, [[User:Osplace]]. You've been a big help in sorting this out. :) [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak|talk]]) 06:13, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Carlos Moreno]] ==

Hello, volleyball experts.  This old AfC submission will soon be deleted as a stale draft.  Is this a notable player, or should the page be let go? &mdash;[[User:Anne Delong|Anne Delong]] ([[User talk:Anne Delong|talk]]) 11:51, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

==2014 FIVB Women's World Championship squads==

Hello! I would like to help editing the (not yet existent) article [[2014 FIVB Women's World Championship squads]] but I don't really know how to work with the template. If someone else wishes to help with this, please leave a message.Or somebody more experienced could actually do the whole article based on http://italy2014.fivb.org/en/competition/teams The competition has already started and it's a pity not to have the squads article up. Thanks! [[User:Cristixav|Cristixav]] ([[User talk:Cristixav|talk]]) 10:34, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

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:[[Template:Country data Peru]] shows the real one, but [[Template:Country flag IOC alias PER]] uses [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Peru_(state).svg This version] of the Flag, and this is wrong. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 02:10, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
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:Please everyone start working! [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 23:09, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
== Players layout ==
We have a problem. Since [[User:DariaPolonia]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/DariaPolonia have been working] in many many articles with different layout that the one we have been using, we need to talk about it. The layout should be discussed here and the result must be a section in the main WikiProject Volleyball page.
I would like that [[User:DariaPolonia]] explain why she thinks that we should use the one shown here: [[Grzegorz Kosok]].
The other version is one like this: [[Brenda Castillo]]. I will soon comeback working here. Please start talking about it. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 20:55, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
:The Castillo article looks better to me because 1) There aren't countless flags in the infobox (I say there should be none) 2) The club section is better organized and friendly for the reader and just the layout itself is what i feel is "better" and more friendly. I reverted myself a few contributions from him to german volleyball players as they were suspect. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4|talk]]) 21:16, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
:: And is not just that [[User:DariaPolonia]] have been creating articles, but ''fixing'' others like Jaqueline Carvalho. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jaqueline_Carvalho&oldid=585723751 This is how the article looked like], and [[Jaqueline Carvalho|here is shown]] have the article was ''fixed''. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 01:17, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

:::I agree, you don't need flags everywhere. The Castillo article looks better. [[User:HandsomeFella|HandsomeFella]] ([[User talk:HandsomeFella|talk]]) 09:29, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
::::Hello, I've been asked to comment here and I agree to keep the flags to a minimum. Only the "Honors" section in the infobox has the default parameter for flags, so that's the one that could stay. –'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">H</span>]][[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">T</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">D</span>]]''' 12:06, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
:::::I was also asked to comment here. I agree about the clubs section being better organised in the Castillo article. You don't need tables. My position about flags in articles about individual athletes is that the flags should always be shown with club names (it gives information which the reader likely needs) and only once or even not at all with national teams.It is better to have eg "Rabita Baku" with the Azeri flag  than to occupy text space with "Rabita Baku (Azerbaijan)". But if you say "Azerbaijan" or "Poland" (national team) it is clear which country is meant and one doesn't need the flag. Also, filling the infobox with flags is not reader-friendly. [[User:Cristixav|Cristixav]] ([[User talk:Cristixav|talk]]) 12:55, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
::::::Sorry for problems with flags. I will try to correct it. I try to write correctly, but I'm still learning. I'll take your comments to heart. I have just thought that it looks good and helps when the name of the club is with the flag, because not everyone knows that, for example PGE Belchatow is Polish club.[[User:DariaPolonia|DariaPolonia]] ([[User talk:DariaPolonia|talk]]) 17:07, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, people are figuring out ways on how to solve this without using flags. I'd push for IOC codes... –'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">H</span>]][[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">T</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">D</span>]]''' 17:07, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Is not just about flags. The flag on Rabita Baku in Castillo's article is '''wrong'''. In the club section, the flag is displayed. If a casual reader actually reads the article, will notice that when mentioned, Rabita Baku is identified as an "Azerbajani or Azeri Club". This way, there is no need to add IOC codes. But I would like to recall the fix made to some articles like Jaqueline Carvalho. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jaqueline_Carvalho&oldid=585723751 This is how the article looked like], and [[Jaqueline Carvalho|here is shown]] how the article was ''fixed''. There, you have in both version the violation of [[WP:INFOBOXFLAG]], but in the fix there is also [[WP:BOLDITIS]]. The correct use of bold is explained in the policy [[MOS:BOLD]].

This is important: User [[User:DariaPolonia]] also changed ''Wikiproject Volleyball'' layout in Awards and replace it with ''Sporting achievements''. We should just use one layout in '''all volleyball articles''' if you all agree the way is everything organized in his way is an improvement, then we all should also commit to change ''our'' previous articles. [[Marcin Możdżonek|This is another example]] of missconception of our newbie. [[User:DariaPolonia|DariaPolonia]] fails using [[WP:OPENPARAGRAPH]]. Four lines, just one sentence? The second is using the clubs table, this impacts in the '''article size''', between text. All text should be first, then tables and schemes, including the ''Bachelor Polonia Restituta'' decoration. This should be treated like this: first text talking about this, when he received this and the ''proper reference''. Then you should add this ribbon later on with his personal achievements.

We all should concern about when are we going to get a [[Wikipedia:Featured articles]]? We are not in this way acting like we are this days. We should organize ourself, work with the same goal: All volleyball articles should be promoted to FA. Please take a look to [[Sandy Koufax]] and [[Damon Hill]], both of them are FA. Do you know how many FA articles are FA? None, not a single one. And we are not probably getting anyone any time soon. We should strive to take the same direction. If we split, doing whatever I thing it should be better, we will just continue harming WP. We are not even compeling to follow [[MOS:LAYOUT]]. [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 02:31, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

:There is still not an unified layout, {{User|DariaPolonia}} is still doing whatever he wants with his own layout, are we clear that we are getting away from our first [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Volleyball#Goals|goal]], ''Standardize the appearance and layout of volleyball related articles.'' Are we ok with this? We agree on the flags, [[WP:INFOBOXFLAG]] is violated on every article, what are we going to do? Just stay? [[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 02:17, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

{{Clear}}
== Popular articles ==

There are [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women%27s_sport/Volleyball_task_force/Popular_pages many popular articles] needing [[Wikipedia:Basic copyediting|copy edit]]. There are many former players, then you have [[Tijana Bošković]], [[Winifer Fernández]] and [[Alyssa Valdez]]. Tijana article's needs a lot of work! Both Fernandez and Valdez are decent [[Wikipedia:C-class|C articles]], but most of the others lacks of content and with content I mean text and references. You have for example #13 [[Kim Yeon-koung]] and #14 [[Maja Ognjenović]] with long careers but no indication of verification of the titles they have listed, not correct in the [[Wikipedia:Verifiability]] and [[WP:BLPSOURCES]] way. --[[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 19:54, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

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== Clubs standard rosters ==

There is a raising concern about standard rosters. There are too many different models. Since the [[WP:VBALL]] goals are: ''Standardize the appearance and layout of volleyball related articles and Improve and generally guide the development of volleyball related articles'', we should remember that the roster layout is still a problem. There is should be only one, please lets talk about this.

===[[Fenerbahçe Women's Volleyball]]===
''As of September 2017.
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! style="color:#FFED00; background:#163962;"| No.
! style="color:#FFED00; background:#163962;"| Player 
! style="color:#FFED00; background:#163962;"| Position
! style="color:#FFED00; background:#163962;"| Date of Birth 
! style="color:#FFED00; background:#163962;"| Height (m)
! style="color:#FFED00; background:#163962;"| Country
|-
|align="center"| 1
|[[Melis Yılmaz]]
|Libero
|28 June 1997
|align="center"| 1.67
|{{TUR}} 
|-
|align="center"| 2
|[[Merve Dalbeler]]
|Libero
|27 June 1987
|align="center"| 1.80
|{{TUR}} 
|-
|align="center"| 4
|[[Ezgi Dağdelenler]]
|Wing spiker
|3 November 1993
|align="center"| 1.84
|{{TUR}}
|-
|align="center"| 5
|[[Beliz Başkır]]
|Middle blocker
|26 December 1998
|align="center"| 1.98
|{{TUR}} 
|-
|align="center"| 6
|[[Polen Uslupehlivan]]
|Opposite Hitter
|27 August 1990
|align="center"| 1.92
|{{TUR}} 
|-
|align="center"| 7
|[[Çağla Akın]]
|Setter
|19 January 1995
|align="center"| 1.77
|{{TUR}} 
|-
|align="center"| 8
|[[Dicle Nur Babat]]
|Middle blocker
|15 September 1992
|align="center"| 1.91
|{{TUR}}
|-
|align="center"| 11
|[[Bahar Toksoy]]
|Middle blocker
|6 February 1988
|align="center"| 1.90
|{{TUR}} 
|-
|align="center"| 12
|[[Natália Pereira]]
|Wing spiker
|4 April 1989
|align="center"| 1.83
|{{BRA}} 
|-
|align="center"| 13
|[[Nootsara Tomkom]]
|Setter
|7 July 1985
|align="center"| 1.70
|{{THA}} 
|-
|align="center"| 14
|[[Eda Erdem Dündar]]
|Middle blocker
|22 June 1987
|align="center"| 1.88
|{{TUR}} 
|-
|align="center"| 15
|[[Damla Çakıroğlu]]
|Wing spiker
|22 June 1994
|align="center"| 1.79
|{{TUR}} 
|-

|align="center"| 17
|[[Polina Rahimova]]
|Opposite spiker
|5 June 1990
|align="center"| 1.98
|{{AZE}}
|-
|}
Coach: {{flagicon|Belgium}} [[Jan De Brandt]]

===[[WVC Dynamo Kazan]]===
'''Season 2017–2018''' <ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.dinamo-kazan.com/eng/team/players/ |title=Dynamo Kazan Players - Team details|publisher=Dinamo Kazan|accessdate=}}</ref>
{| class="wikitable" style="width:100%;"
|- 
! Number
! Player
! Position
! Height (m)
! Weight (kg)
! Birth date
|-
|align=center|3
|{{flagicon|RUS}} [[Elena Ezhova]]
|Libero
|align=center|1.78
|align=center|66
|{{Birth date and age|1977|8|14|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|4
|{{flagicon|RUS}} [[Marina Maryukhnich]]
|Middle Blocker
|align=center|1.97
|align=center|70
|{{Birth date and age|1982|11|26|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|6
|{{flagicon|RUS}} [[Irina Zaryazhko]]
|Middle Blocker
|align=center|1.96
|align=center|75
|{{Birth date and age|1991|10|4|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|7
|{{flagicon|RUS}} [[Anna Kotikova]]
|Outside Hitter	
|align=center|1.89
|align=center|76
|{{Birth date and age|1999|10|13|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|8
|{{flagicon|RUS}} [[Irina Voronkova]] 
|Outside Hitter
|align=center|1.90
|align=center|85
|{{Birth date and age|1995|10|20|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|9
|{{flagicon|AZE}} [[Natalya Mammadova]]
|Opposite   
|align=center|1.96
|align=center|75
|{{Birth date and age|1984|12|2|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|13
|{{flagicon|RUS}} [[Evgeniya Startseva]]
|Setter
|align=center|1.84
|align=center|68
|{{Birth date and age|1989|2|12|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|14
|{{flagicon|RUS}} [[Ekaterina Ulanova]]  
|Libero
|align=center|1.73
|align=center|61
|{{Birth date and age|1986|8|5|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|15
|{{flagicon|RUS}} [[Irina Filishtinskaya]] 
|Setter
|align=center|1.80
|align=center|65
|{{Birth date and age|1990|6|14|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|16
|{{flagicon|RUS}} [[Anastasia Podoshvina]]
|Outside Hitter
|align=center|1.84
|align=center|67
|{{Birth date and age|1995|7|18|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|18
|{{flagicon|BUL}} [[Elitsa Vasileva]]
|Outside Hitter
|align=center|1.93
|align=center|75
|{{Birth date and age|1990|5|13|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|19
|{{flagicon|RUS}} [[Daria Malygina]]
|Opposite
|align=center|2.02
|align=center|82
|{{Birth date and age|1994|4|4|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|20
|{{flagicon|RUS}} [[Anastasia Shlyakhovaya|Anastasia Samoilenko]]
|Middle Blocker
|align=center|1.92
|align=center|69
|{{Birth date and age|1990|10|5|df=y}}
|}

===Voléro Zürich===
''Season 2017–2018, as of December 2017.''<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.volerozuerich.ch/de/team |title=Team |language=German |publisher=Volero Zürich AG |accessdate=14 December 2017}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|title=Team Roster – Voléro Zürich 2017–18 |url=http://www.cev.lu/Competition-Area/CompetitionTeamDetails.aspx?TeamID=10619&ID=1036|work=[[European Volleyball Confederation|CEV]]|date= |accessdate=8 December 2017}}</ref>
{|class="wikitable sortable" style="font-size:100%; text-align:center;"
|-
!No.
!style="width:12em"|Name
!style="width:14em"|Date of birth
!style="width:8em"|Height
!style="width:7em"|Weight
!style="width:8em"|Spike
!style="width:8em"|Block
!style="width:7em"|Position
|-
| {{sort|01|1}} ||align=left|{{flagicon|RUS}} {{sortname|Angelina|Lazarenko}}||align=right|{{Birth date and age|1998|4|13|df=y}}||{{convert|1.93|m|ftin|0|abbr=on}}||{{convert|80|kg|lb|abbr=on}}||{{convert|320|cm|in|abbr=on}}||{{convert|305|cm|in|abbr=on}}||Middle-blocker
|-
| {{sort|02|2}} ||align=left|{{flagicon|FIN}} {{sortname|Tiiamari|Sievänen}}||align=right|{{Birth date and age|1994|7|19|df=y}}||{{convert|1.65|m|ftin|0|abbr=on}}||{{convert|60|kg|lb|abbr=on}}||{{convert|275|cm|in|abbr=on}}||{{convert|287|cm|in|abbr=on}}||Libero
|-
| {{sort|03|3}} ||align=left|{{flagicon|SER}} {{sortname|Ljubica|Milojević}}||align=right|{{Birth date and age|1999|2|13|df=y}}||{{convert|1.93|m|ftin|0|abbr=on}}||{{convert|70|kg|lb|abbr=on}}||{{convert|300|cm|in|abbr=on}}||{{convert|300|cm|in|abbr=on}}||Middle-blocker
|-
| {{sort|04|4}} ||align=left|{{flagicon|BRA}} {{sortname|Samara|Almeida}}||align=right|{{Birth date and age|1992|7|16|df=y}}||{{convert|1.85|m|ftin|0|abbr=on}}||{{convert|61|kg|lb|abbr=on}}||{{convert|293|cm|in|abbr=on}}||{{convert|278|cm|in|abbr=on}}||Outside-spiker
|-
| {{sort|05|5}} ||align=left|{{flagicon|BUL}} {{sortname|Gergana|Dimitrova|Gergana Dimitrova (volleyball)}}||align=right|{{Birth date and age|1996|2|28|df=y}}||{{convert|1.84|m|ftin|0|abbr=on}}||{{convert|71|kg|lb|abbr=on}}||{{convert|305|cm|in|abbr=on}}||{{convert|288|cm|in|abbr=on}}||Outside-spiker
|-
| {{sort|06|6}} ||align=left|{{flagicon|SUI}} {{sortname|Gabi|Schottroff}}||align=right|{{Birth date and age|1997|2|8|df=y}}||{{convert|1.92|m|ftin|0|abbr=on}}||{{convert|78|kg|lb|abbr=on}}||{{convert|302|cm|in|abbr=on}}||{{convert|285|cm|in|abbr=on}}||Middle-blocker
|-
| {{sort|07|7}} ||align=left|{{flagicon|SER}} {{sortname|Ana|Antonijević}}||align=right|{{Birth date and age|1987|8|26|df=y}}||{{convert|1.85|m|ftin|0|abbr=on}}||{{convert|71|kg|lb|abbr=on}}||{{convert|282|cm|in|abbr=on}}||{{convert|269|cm|in|abbr=on}}||Setter
|-
| {{sort|08|8}} ||align=left|{{flagicon|SER}} {{sortname|Silvija|Popović}}||align=right|{{Birth date and age|1986|3|15|df=y}}||{{convert|1.78|m|ftin|0|abbr=on}}||{{convert|65|kg|lb|abbr=on}}||{{convert|286|cm|in|abbr=on}}||{{convert|276|cm|in|abbr=on}}||Libero
|-
| {{sort|11|11}} ||align=left|{{flagicon|BUL}} {{sortname|Mira|Todorova}}||align=right|{{Birth date and age|1994|4|12|df=y}}||{{convert|1.87|m|ftin|0|abbr=on}}||{{convert|77|kg|lb|abbr=on}}||{{convert|312|cm|in|abbr=on}}||{{convert|300|cm|in|abbr=on}}||Middle-blocker
|-
| 12 ||align=left|{{flagicon|RUS}}/{{flagicon|CUB}} {{sortname|Rosir|Calderón}}||align=right|{{Birth date and age|1984|12|28|df=y}}||{{convert|1.91|m|ftin|0|abbr=on}}||{{convert|73|kg|lb|abbr=on}}||{{convert|330|cm|in|abbr=on}}||{{convert|325|cm|in|abbr=on}}||Opposite
|-
| 13 ||align=left|{{flagicon|RUS}} {{sortname|Anastasia|Kornienko}}||align=right|{{Birth date and age|1992|9|9|df=y}}||{{convert|1.84|m|ftin|0|abbr=on}}||{{convert|71|kg|lb|abbr=on}}||{{convert|290|cm|in|abbr=on}}||{{convert|278|cm|in|abbr=on}}||Setter
|-
| 14 ||align=left|{{flagicon|SUI}} {{sortname|Julie|Lengweiler}}||align=right|{{Birth date and age|1998|11|6|df=y}}||{{convert|1.86|m|ftin|0|abbr=on}}||{{convert|70|kg|lb|abbr=on}}||{{convert|302|cm|in|abbr=on}}||{{convert|285|cm|in|abbr=on}}||Opposite
|-
| 17 ||align=left|{{flagicon|SUI}} {{sortname|Laura|Unternährer}}||align=right|{{Birth date and age|1993|7|11|df=y}}||{{convert|1.79|m|ftin|0|abbr=on}}||{{convert|70|kg|lb|abbr=on}}||{{convert|303|cm|in|abbr=on}}||{{convert|285|cm|in|abbr=on}}||Outside-spiker
|-
| 18 ||align=left|{{flagicon|SWE}} {{sortname|Alexandra|Lazić}}||align=right|{{Birth date and age|1994|9|24|df=y}}||{{convert|1.85|m|ftin|0|abbr=on}}||{{convert|72|kg|lb|abbr=on}}||{{convert|318|cm|in|abbr=on}}||{{convert|307|cm|in|abbr=on}}||Outside-spiker	
|-
|colspan=8 align=left|Head coach: {{flagicon|BRA}} [[Anderson Rodrigues (volleyball)|Anderson Rodrigues]] (until December 2017) / {{flagicon|NED}} [[Avital Selinger]] (from December 2017)<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.volerozuerich.ch/de/news/2017-12-14-selinger-wird-erneut-head-coach-von-volero-zuerich |title=Selinger wird erneut Head Coach von Volero Zürich |language=German |publisher=Volero Zürich AG |date=14 December 2017 |accessdate=14 December 2017}}</ref>
|}

===[[KPS Chemik Police]]===
''2016–2017 squad, as per March 2017.''<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.chemik-police.com/druzyna/druzyna/ |title=Team |language=Polish |work=KPS Chemik Police |accessdate=4 March 2017}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.orlenliga.pl/teams/id/87055.html |title=Chemik Police Team |language=Polish |work=[[Orlen Liga]] |accessdate=4 March 2017}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.cev.lu/Competition-Area/PlayerDetails.aspx?TeamID=10150&PlayerID=25904&ID=968 |title=Chemik Police - Team Details|publisher=CEV|accessdate=19 November 2016}}</ref>
{| class="wikitable"
|- 
! Number
! Player
! Position
! Height (m)
! Weight (kg)
! Birth date
|-
|align=center|1
|{{flagicon|POL}} [[Anna Werblińska]]
|Outside hitter
|align=center|1.78
|align=center|65
|{{Birth date and age|1984|5|14|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|2
|{{flagicon|POL}} [[Mariola Zenik]]
|Libero
|align=center|1.73
|align=center|67
|{{Birth date and age|1982|7|3|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|3
|{{flagicon|COL}} [[Madelaynne Montaño]]
|Opposite 
|align=center|1.85
|align=center|68
|{{Birth date and age|1983|1|6|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|4
|{{flagicon|POL}} [[Katarzyna Gajgał-Anioł]]
|Middle blocker
|align=center|1.91
|align=center|85
|{{Birth date and age|1981|9|21|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|6
|{{flagicon|POL}} [[Agnieszka Bednarek-Kasza]]
|Middle blocker
|align=center|1.85
|align=center|70
|{{Birth date and age|1986|2|20|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|7
|{{flagicon|POL}} [[Malwina Smarzek]]
|Outside hitter
|align=center|1.91
|align=center|79
|{{Birth date and age|1996|6|3|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|8
|{{flagicon|POL}} [[Izabela Bełcik]]
|Setter
|align=center|1.86
|align=center|70
|{{Birth date and age|1980|11|29|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|9
|{{flagicon|POL}} [[Magdalena Stysiak]]
|Outside hitter
|align=center|1.99
|align=center|80
|{{Birth date and age|2000|12|3|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|11
|{{flagicon|SRB}} [[Stefana Veljković]]
|Middle blocker
|align=center|1.90
|align=center|76
|{{Birth date and age|1990|1|9|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|13
|{{flagicon|POL}} [[Nikola Abramajtyz]]
|Middle blocker
|align=center|1.85
|align=center|74
|{{Birth date and age|1997|2|13|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|14
|{{flagicon|POL}} [[Joanna Wołosz]]
|Setter
|align=center|1.81
|align=center|71
|{{Birth date and age|1990|4|7|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|15
|{{flagicon|SRB}} [[Jelena Blagojević]]
|Outside hitter
|align=center|1.81
|align=center|67
|{{Birth date and age|1988|12|1|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|16
|{{flagicon|POL}} [[Aleksandra Jagieło]]
|Outside hitter
|align=center|1.80
|align=center|68
|{{Birth date and age|1980|6|2|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|17
|{{flagicon|POL}} [[Aleksandra Krzos]]
|Libero
|align=center|1.81
|align=center|71
|{{Birth date and age|1989|6|23|df=y}}
|-
|align=center|18
|{{flagicon|POL}} [[Katarzyna Zaroślińska]]
|Opposite
|align=center|1.87
|align=center|79
|{{Birth date and age|1987|2|3|df=y}}
|}

===Philippine Air Force Women's Volleyball Team===
For the [[Premier Volleyball League 1st Season Open Conference]]:
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
| colspan="8" style= "background: #000080; color: yellow; text-align: center" | '''Philippine Air Force Jet Spikers'''
|-
! width=3px style="background: white; color: black; text-align: center" | '''No.'''
! width=130px style="background: white; color: black" | Last Name
! width=130px style="background: white; color: black" | First Name
! width=130px style="background: white; color: black" | Position
! width=50px style="background: white; color: black" | Ht.
! width=50px style="background: white; color: black" | Wt.
! width=200px style="background: white; color: black" | Birth Date
|-
| '''1''' || style="text-align: left" |{{flagicon|PHI}} Crisostomo || style="text-align: left" | Mae Denisse || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Libero]]  || 5'0"  ||  &nbsp;kg || 
|-
| '''2''' || style="text-align: left" |{{flagicon|PHI}} Andres || style="text-align: left" | Mickaela Danielle || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Outside Hitter]] ||   ||  &nbsp;kg || 
|-
| '''4''' || style="text-align: left" |{{flagicon|PHI}} Yongco || style="text-align: left" | Iari || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Opposite Hitter]] || 5'10" || 63&nbsp;kg || {{birth date and age|df=yes|1990|09|09}}
|-
| '''5''' || style="text-align: left" |{{flagicon|PHI}} Balmaceda || style="text-align: left" | Mary Ann || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Libero]] ||   ||  &nbsp;kg ||   
|-
| '''6''' || style="text-align: left" |{{flagicon|PHI}} Pantino || style="text-align: left" | May Ann || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Outside Hitter]] || 5'10" || &nbsp;kg || {{birth date and age|df=yes|1989|05|18}}
|-
| '''7''' || style="text-align: left" |{{flagicon|PHI}} Semana || style="text-align: left" | Wendy Anne || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Setter]] || 5'3" || 57&nbsp;kg || {{birth date and age|df=yes|1986|02|15}}
|-
| '''8''' || style="text-align: left" |{{flagicon|PHI}} Andaya || style="text-align: left" | Gena Keeshia || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Setter]] ||   ||  &nbsp;kg ||
|-
| '''9''' || style="text-align: left" |{{flagicon|PHI}} Cabalsa|| style="text-align: left" | Jozza Mae || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Outside Hitter]] ||   ||  &nbsp;kg || 
|-
| '''10''' || style="text-align: left" |{{flagicon|PHI}} Palomata|| style="text-align: left" | Dell || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Middle Blocker]] || 6'3"  ||  &nbsp;kg || 
|-
|  '''11''' || style="text-align: left" |{{flagicon|PHI}} Caballejo || style="text-align: left" | Judy Ann || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Opposite Hitter]] || 5'8" || 75&nbsp;kg || {{birth date and age|df=yes|1991|07|08}}
|-
| '''12''' || style="text-align: left" |{{flagicon|PHI}} Cases || style="text-align: left" | Joy Gazelle || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Outside Hitter]] || 5'6" || 58&nbsp;kg || {{birth date and age|df=yes|1988|12|16}}
|-
| '''14''' || style="text-align: left" |{{flagicon|PHI}} Abanto || style="text-align: left" | Anna Camille || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Opposite Hitter]] ||   ||  &nbsp;kg  ||  
|-
| '''16''' || style="text-align: left" |{{flagicon|PHI}} Antipuesto || style="text-align: left" | Angel Mae || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Middle Blocker]] || 5'10" ||  &nbsp;kg || {{birth date and age|df=yes|1993|05|02}}
|-
| '''17''' || style="text-align: left" |{{flagicon|PHI}} Tapic || style="text-align: left" | Jocemer || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Middle Blocker]] || 5'9" || 58&nbsp;kg || {{birth date and age|df=yes|1992|06|28}}
|}
{{col-begin}}
{{col-3}}
'''Coaching staff'''
* Head Coach:<br>{{flagicon|PHI}} TSgt. Jasper Jimenez
* Assistant Coach(s):<br>{{flagicon|PHI}} Jerry Lomingin
{{col-3}}
'''Team Staff'''
* Team Manager:<br>{{flagicon|PHI}} Randy Tibayan
* Team Trainer:<br>{{flagicon|PHI}} Ray Acojedo
{{col-3}}
'''Medical Staff'''
* Team Physician:
* Physical Therapist:<br>{{flagicon|PHI}} Cris Rey Estrada
{{col-end}}

===Perlas Spikers===
For the [[Premier Volleyball League 1st Season Open Conference]]:
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center; width: 100%; font-size:90%;"
| colspan="8" style= "background:black; color:white; text-align: center" | '''BPI Globe BanKo Perlas Spikers'''
|-
!style="width:3em; background:black; color:white;"|No.
!style="width:16em; background:black; color:white;"|Name
!style="width:8em; background:black; color:white;"|Pos
!style="width:9em; background:black; color:white;"|Height
!style="width:9em; background:black; color:white;"|Weight
!style="width:8em; background:black; color:white;"|Spike
!style="width:8em; background:black; color:white;"|Block
!style="width:14em; background:black; color:white;"|Date of birth
|-
| 1 || align=left|{{flagicon|PHI}} {{sortname|Ryssabel|Devanadera}} || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Middle Blocker]] || {{convert|1.72|m|ftin|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|kg|lb|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || align=right| {{Birth date and age|1987|11|27}}
|-
| 3 || align=left|{{flagicon|PHI}} {{sortname|Suzanne|Roces}} || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Opposite Hitter]] ||{{convert|1.78|m|ftin|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|kg|lb|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || align=right| {{Birth date and age|1985|01|27}}
|-
| 4 || align=left|{{flagicon|PHI}} {{sortname|Charisse Vernon|Ancheta}} || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Setter]] ||{{convert|1.55|m|ftin|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|kg|lb|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || align=right| 
|-
| 5 || align=left|{{flagicon|PHI}} {{sortname|Ma. Carmina Denise|Acevedo}} || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Opposite Hitter]] ||{{convert|1.68|m|ftin|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|kg|lb|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || align=right|{{Birth date and age|1989|04|28}}
|-
| 7 || align=left|{{flagicon|PHI}} {{sortname|Katherine Adrielle R.|Bersola}} || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Middle Blocker]] ||{{convert|1.80|m|ftin|abbr=on}} || {{convert|61.5|kg|lb|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || align=right|{{Birth date and age|1996|3|18}}
|-
| 8 || align=left|{{flagicon|PHI}} {{sortname|Jorella Marie|de Jesus}} || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Outside Hitter]] ||{{convert|1.52|m|ftin|abbr=on}} || {{convert|55|kg|lb|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || align=right|{{Birth date and age|1993|8|17}}
|-
| 9 || align=left|{{flagicon|PHI}} {{sortname|Amanda Maria|Villanueva}} || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Outside Hitter]] ||{{convert|1.60|m|ftin|abbr=on}} || {{convert|53|kg|lb|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || align=right|{{Birth date and age|1992|3|9}}
|-
| 10 || align=left|{{flagicon|PHI}} {{sortname|Mary Mae|Tajima}} || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Middle Blocker]] ||{{convert|1.82|m|ftin|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|kg|lb|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || align=right| {{Birth date and age|1994|12|26}}
|-
| 12 || align=left|{{flagicon|PHI}} {{sortname|Jamenea|Ferrer}}  || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Setter]] ||{{convert|1.57|m|ftin|abbr=on}} || {{convert|64|kg|lb|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || align=right| {{Birth date and age|1991|12|12}}
|-	
| 13 || align=left|{{flagicon|PHI}} {{sortname|Ma. Beatriz Dominique|Tan}} || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Outside Hitter/Libero]] ||{{convert|1.60|m|ftin|abbr=on}} || {{convert|64|kg|lb|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || align=right| {{Birth date and age|1989|8|17}}
|-	
| 14 || align=left|{{flagicon|PHI}} {{sortname|Rapril|Aguilar}} || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Outside Hitter]] ||{{convert|1.72|m|ftin|abbr=on}} || {{convert|60|kg|lb|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || align=right| {{Birth date and age|1990|4|20}}
|-
| 16 || align=left|{{flagicon|NZL}} [[Amy Ahomiro|Rongomaipapa Amy Ahomiro]] || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Middle Hitter]] ||{{convert|1.73|m|ftin|abbr=on}} || {{convert|66|kg|lb|abbr=on}} || {{convert|173|cm|in|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || align=right|{{Birth date and age|1992|5|1}}
|-
| 17 || align=left|{{flagicon|PHI}} {{sortname|Ma. Gizelle Jessica|Tan}} || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Libero]] ||{{convert|1.55|m|ftin|abbr=on}} || {{convert|51|kg|lb|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || align=right| {{Birth date and age|1994|11|7}}
|-
| 19 || align=left|{{flagicon|PHI}} {{sortname|Nicole Anne|Tiamzon}} || [[Volleyball#Player_specialization|Outside Hitter]] ||{{convert|1.68|m|ftin|abbr=on}} || {{convert|56.7|kg|lb|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || {{convert|NNNN|cm|in|abbr=on}} || align=right| {{Birth date and age|1995|11|3}}
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'''Coaching staff'''
* Head Coach:<br>{{flagicon|THA}} Nai Muhhamed
* Assistant Coach(s):<br>{{flagicon|PHI}} Ivan Izack Dionisio
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'''Team Staff'''
* Team Manager:<br>{{flagicon|PHI}} Karla Bello<ref name="Karla Bello">{{cite news|url=http://sports.abs-cbn.com/pvl/news/2017/06/30/look-rosters-8-pvl-open-conference-teams-28019|title=Look: Rosters of the 8 PVL Open Conference teams|newspaper=[[ABS-CBN Sports]]|date=June 30, 2017|access-date=July 5, 2017}}</ref>
* Team Utility:
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'''Medical Staff'''
* Team Physician:
* Physical Therapist:
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===Rationale===
There should be just one standard layout for clubs rosters. We should discuss if colors should be added, taking into account the [[WP:COLOUR]] accessibility and/or color abuse.

===Comments===
Please:
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I would vote for use the KPS Chemik Police and WVC Dynamo Kazan model, this models is being used in all the [[Women's Volleyball Thailand League]] clubs articles. I do not know why the Fenerbahçe Women's Volleyball appears in the next section, here and the clubs' article too. The headings have no colors added and the columns are adecuate without too many details. Positions with no links. The separate column for country is too much, like Fenerbahçe. Also officials and coaches should appear the same, we should discuss this subject. Please no college, no made up columns, just standard ones. Please comment here. --[[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 16:18, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

:I am in favor of the KPS Chemik Police and Dynamo Kazan model as well. Just the essentials and just the details that are easier to source (height, birthdate, nationality). Reach, spike, etc are too technical and also harder to source. Just the head coach/team manager can be stated in plain text before the table (see Fenerbahçe). No colors for standardization. While college sports are big in some countries (USA and Philippines) it isn't true for other countries so the column should be scrapped.[[User:Hariboneagle927|Hariboneagle927]] ([[User talk:Hariboneagle927|talk]]) 16:27, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

::I am in favor of the Voléro Zürich model. This model is also the one commonly used in national teams competitions (see [[2017 FIVB Volleyball World Grand Prix squads]] and [[Volleyball at the 2016 Summer Olympics – Women's team rosters]] for example). It would be nice to use the same pattern in both clubs and national teams squads. [[User:Arielslytherin|Arielslytherin]] ([[User talk:Arielslytherin|talk]]) 16:51, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

:::I could get weight at cyclers, since climbing is a must. Libero here dont jump much. But otherwise spike and block are very must for me. So let have them all. While for Model KPS Chemik Police is good. --[[User:PetarM|PetarM]] ([[User talk:PetarM|talk]]) 17:04, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

::::In favor of WVC Dynamo Kazan and KPS Chemik Police models. [[User:Rickt11|Rick]] ([[User talk:Rickt11|talk]]) 01:49, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

:::::I think details is very important. I'm in favor to have them all. --[[User:Mmhuang|Mmhuang]] ([[User talk:Mmhuang|talk]]) 13:15, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
::::::{{re|Mmhuang}} Do you mean to have all kind of rosters models? --[[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 16:20, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
::::::I wanted all of you to express your opinions, before giving mine. I am in favor of KPS Chemik Police and Dynamo Kazan model, no colors. --[[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 16:23, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
:::::::No. I mean we should be selecting 1 model but, we should have all the details of each player. Like the spike and block. And the last team the player played for. [[User:Mmhuang|Mmhuang]] ([[User talk:Mmhuang|talk]]) 12:05, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Oh wow! All the details, plus the last team the player played for. That would be really detailed {{re|Mmhuang|Hariboneagle927|Arielslytherin|PetarM|Rickt11}}. It is too much work for existing and upcomming articles.
:::::::::WP Volleyball signed members {{re|Princeofpersia1|Attilios|Jaco IV‎|Pedeshtrian|Tomarzig|Lon123}} have a say, and active contributors {{re|Noncommittalp|DariaPolonia|Plastikspork|Almagestas|I dream of horses|Tomcat7|Gkouster|Chris.astrtas565|Vitor Brto|ปฏิวัติ ปวนจีน|Akocsg|}}, and senior contributors {{re|Materialscientist|Kante4|Ser Amantio di Nicolao|Leesw616|CeeGee}} words would be greatly appreciated. --[[User talk:Osplace|Osplace]] 22:55, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::I agree with [[User:Arielslytherin|Arielslytherin]]. --[[User talk:Leesw616|Leesw616]] 09:26, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::Hello. After reviewing your comments, I'd like to express my opinion. For me, Volero Zurich model is the best. Also, I could take KPS Chemik Police into consideration, but I'm not a fan of 'Date of birth' column as a last one. It looks much better and it is more clear when 'Date of birth' column is second, after names, and position is the last one in the table. Details such as an attack or block are important, but for quick information the most important is the number, nationality, name, date of birth, (optional: height), position. Do you think that 'shortened tables' could be included in club articles, and full of detailed tables only for rosters in the league or tournament? - [[User:DariaPolonia|DariaPolonia]] ([[User talk:DariaPolonia|talk]]) 19:21, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::In my opinion a compination of the WVC Dynamo Kazan and the Volero Zurich model would be great. I think the Volero Zurich model without the "Spike" and "Block" could work for clubs rosters. The Volero Zurich model is just too descriptive for clubs. I think it's the best for national teams but I don't really like it for clubs, it just looks too much for me. --[[User:Chris.astrtas565|Aster565]] ([[User talk:Chris.astrtas565|talk]]) 22:19, 12 January 2018 (UTC)