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The external link, One view of the error, leads to a sloppy page full of slanted, disputed opinion, boiling down to little more than a conspiracy theory. Therefore, I propose that this link be removed. --Jacobking 22:40, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the last external link, namely Information on the Diebold machines, as the link was broken when I tried to access it just now. --RCS ^talk 16:44, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A quick Google check shows plenty of other sources, ([1][2][3], etc.) should an interested editor wish to add them. -Will Beback 21:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide the source(s) of all the vote numbers in the following passage: "The error cropped up in Volusia's 216th precinct of only 585 registered voters. A Diebold Election Systems voting machine showed that 412 of those registered voters had voted (a perfectly reasonable number). The problem was that the machine also claimed those 412 voters had somehow given Bush 2,813 votes and more impressively had given Gore a negative vote count of -16,022 votes." 00:14, 5 October 2006 (UTC)kcn

I don't understand how this article jives with the content included in 2004 United States presidential election controversy, voting machines article. That article reads under section "Similar anomalies in recent history: BBV summary of Diebold memo's", that the the second one was loaded sometime close to 2am in the morning. It automatically replaced the first card's results and reduced Gore's total by 16,022 votes and added several thousand votes to Bush plus a variety of minor candidates"...I realize the quote in this article is from the Washington Post, but somewhere the contents erroneous or require a mention of contradiction.

Here are some additional sources for this article.

First, a book called Black Box Voting, by chapters in PDF form..

Chapter 8 includes Diebold voting machines support logs... "I need some answers! Our department is being audited by the County. I have been waiting for someone to give me an explanation as to why Precinct 216 gave Al Gore a minus 16022 when it was uploaded. Will someone please explain this so that I have the information to give the auditor instead of standing here "looking dumb"."

Also, here's a link to an archived mail list with that message [4]

Here is the link to the Volusia County Supervisor of Elections Office:

http://volusia.org/elections/

No such event took place as being "documented" in this article. I LIVE in Volusia County. This article was obviously created from the hysteria of some Bush-haters. Volusia County uses OPTICAL READER MACHINES, NOT electronic machines. I mark my paper ballot with a PENCIL (fill in an oval) and a machine reads the paper (just like taking the good old SAT Test - fill in the ovals with pencil). The paper ballots are kept by the County or State. This leaves a PAPER TRAIL!!! To suggest otherwise is ridiculous!!!

Volusia County is dominated by Democrats. Most of the County officials are Democrats. The local newspaper, the Daytona Beach News-Journal is about as left-wing as the New York Times. You really think all these Democrats and the Democrat newspaper would sit quietly or conspire to put Bush in office? Ridiculous!!! Gamweb 21:55, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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	No such event took place as being "documented" in this article. I LIVE in Volusia County. This article was obviously created from the hysteria of some Bush-haters. Volusia County uses OPTICAL READER MACHINES, NOT electronic machines. I mark my paper ballot with a PENCIL (fill in an oval) and a machine reads the paper (just like taking the good old SAT Test - fill in the ovals with pencil). The paper ballots are kept by the County or State. This leaves a PAPER TRAIL!!! To suggest otherwise is ridiculous!!!		No such event took place as being "documented" in this article. I LIVE in Volusia County. This article was obviously created from the hysteria of some Bush-haters. Volusia County uses OPTICAL READER MACHINES, NOT electronic machines. I mark my paper ballot with a PENCIL (fill in an oval) and a machine reads the paper (just like taking the good old SAT Test - fill in the ovals with pencil). The paper ballots are kept by the County or State. This leaves a PAPER TRAIL!!! To suggest otherwise is ridiculous!!!

	Volusia County is dominated by Democrats. Most of the County officials are Democrats. The local newspaper, the Daytona Beach News-Journal is about as left-wing as the New York Times. You really think all these ~~people~~ would sit quietly or conspire to put Bush in office? Ridiculous!!! [[User:Gamweb\|Gamweb]] 21:55, 26 July 2007 (UTC)		Volusia County is dominated by Democrats. Most of the County officials are Democrats. The local newspaper, the Daytona Beach News-Journal is about as left-wing as the New York Times. You really think all these Democrats and the Democrat newspaper would sit quietly or conspire to put Bush in office? Ridiculous!!! [[User:Gamweb\|Gamweb]] 21:55, 26 July 2007 (UTC)