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::I am not an administrator, however the arbitration committee in its ineffable wisdom has decreed that peons such as myself may notify people of these discretionary sanctions. In response to your second query, I have no friends. [[User:Darkness Shines|Darkness Shines]] ([[User talk:Darkness Shines|talk]]) 20:20, 6 August 2013 (UTC) |
::I am not an administrator, however the arbitration committee in its ineffable wisdom has decreed that peons such as myself may notify people of these discretionary sanctions. In response to your second query, I have no friends. [[User:Darkness Shines|Darkness Shines]] ([[User talk:Darkness Shines|talk]]) 20:20, 6 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:::The second part of your statement would have been more believable if you would have been making edits in the main page of the article under dispute. I can testify that you have not done so for at least quite some time; quite possibly you have not made a single edit in the main article under dispute. So the fact that you abruptly jumped to the talk page of the disputed article in defense of Sitush and then went on to issue me a warning on my talk page reminded me of certain rules regarding [[WP:Meat puppetry]] [[User:Soham321|Soham321]] ([[User talk:Soham321#top|talk]]) 22:45, 6 August 2013 (UTC) |
:::The second part of your statement would have been more believable if you would have been making edits in the main page of the article under dispute. I can testify that you have not done so for at least quite some time; quite possibly you have not made a single edit in the main article under dispute. So the fact that you abruptly jumped to the talk page of the disputed article in defense of Sitush and then went on to issue me a warning on my talk page reminded me of certain rules regarding [[WP:Meat puppetry]] [[User:Soham321|Soham321]] ([[User talk:Soham321#top|talk]]) 22:45, 6 August 2013 (UTC) |
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::::I came here after seeing your comment about meat puppetry at [[Talk:Digvijaya Singh]]. I wouldn't bother writing this if I thought it was a waste of time, but you are clearly intelligent and able to communicate well in English, and there are ''many'' articles which would benefit from work by someone with an understanding of the topic and Wikipedia's procedures. However, you are going the wrong way at the moment, and it would require quite a lot of effort to gain the necessary understanding of procedures here. If you really want, I'll explain what [[WP:MEAT]] means (or you could get a quick answer at [[WP:HELPDESK]]—just ask if my activity warrants a description as a "meat puppet"; don't ask at [[WP:ANI]] because they may not react well to prodding). Discussing each other is very unproductive and if carried on for too long becomes highly disruptive. Disruption is tolerated for surprisingly large amounts of time, but eventually it is stopped. I mention that because often the ''stopping'' comes as a bit of a shock to inexperienced editors—they can't tell which advice is useful, and which is merely parrying from a political opponent, and they carry on for far too long until their removal is inevitable. Please stop referring to other editors in your article talk page comments—just focus on what content should be added, and what should be removed, and why. [[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq|talk]]) 23:18, 6 August 2013 (UTC) |
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Hi Soham, Just because you say so doesnt make it a WP policy, i already have a section an hour before you reverted my edits. Dont try to edit war. Involve in healthy discussion and gain consensus in the talk page before you edit(revert other peoples contribution) in that page especially when the section to discuss already existed before your reverts. And stop bullying other users claiming some unknown admin has warned people who are trying to interact with you. Also your edit summary shows that you reverted my edits disregarding WP:DRNC - so please try to remain constructive. A m i t 웃 23:00, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
- Soham, you can't go around reverting other editors and claiming that only your version is neutral. Also, edit summaries like this one are combative and pointless because it is meaningless to invoke policy without explanation. If you persist in doing this, you may end up blocked. --regentspark (comment) 01:29, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- Please see the talk page of the article for my explanation.Soham321 (talk) 10:32, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- Regarding your post on the article talk page, I have no interest in what the article says. But, as a general rule, you want to be careful how you go about editing. Content is not determined by one person alone but must be arrived collaboratively through a process of consensus building. The best way to do that is to use the talk page when you're making edits that might be controversial (removing large scale pieces of text and/or finding yourself reverted are indications that the material is controversial). In that case, give your reasons on the talk page and ask others to explain their objections - relying on reliable sources to figure out what the appropriate content is. If you don't get resolution on the talk page, use some form of dispute resolution. Hope all this helps. --regentspark (comment) 17:51, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- I am relatively a newbie to wikipedia and i was simply emulating what other posters--who appeared to be more experienced than me based on their posting history--were doing. I can give you other examples of where one person has simply removed an existing edit on what i personally thought were frivolous reasons. If you can explain to me whether the removal of these edits was violative of wikipedia policy then i would greatly appreciate it. I can point out in which articles this has occurred (and i am not talking of the Narendra Modi page now). I realize completely that edits have to be built through consensus, but what if multiple editors gang up together and try and blackball a politician they dislike using half truths and falsehoods.Soham321 (talk) 18:08, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- Regarding your post on the article talk page, I have no interest in what the article says. But, as a general rule, you want to be careful how you go about editing. Content is not determined by one person alone but must be arrived collaboratively through a process of consensus building. The best way to do that is to use the talk page when you're making edits that might be controversial (removing large scale pieces of text and/or finding yourself reverted are indications that the material is controversial). In that case, give your reasons on the talk page and ask others to explain their objections - relying on reliable sources to figure out what the appropriate content is. If you don't get resolution on the talk page, use some form of dispute resolution. Hope all this helps. --regentspark (comment) 17:51, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- Please see the talk page of the article for my explanation.Soham321 (talk) 10:32, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Soham, regarding the edit summary in this edit of yours. You might want to read WP:Vandalism. --regentspark (comment) 18:43, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for this information. Soham321 (talk) 20:25, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Notification
The Arbitration Committee has permitted administrators to impose discretionary sanctions (information on which is at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions) on any editor who is active on pages broadly related to India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. Discretionary sanctions can be used against an editor who repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, satisfy any standard of behavior, or follow any normal editorial process. If you continue to misconduct yourself on pages relating to this topic, you may be placed under sanctions, which can include blocks, a revert limitation, or an article ban. The Committee's full decision can be read at the "Final decision" section of the decision page. Please familiarise yourself with the information page at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions, with the appropriate sections of Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures, and with the case decision page before making any further edits to the pages in question. This is a non administrator notification, and will be logged as such on the case decision, pursuant to the conditions of the Arbitration Committee's discretionary sanctions system.
As Sitush has already let you know of the WP:ARBIP sanctions in the topic area I am posting this notification. Please follow the links and see what these discretionary sanctions entail. Darkness Shines (talk) 17:37, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Can you confirm whether you are an Admin, or are you just another 'experienced editor' who happens to be a friend of Sitush? Soham321 (talk) 17:53, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- The warning specifically says This is a non administrator notification. In response to the rest of your query, perhaps WP:CABAL? - Sitush (talk) 18:36, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Does that mean an admin cannot give a non-admin warning? Also,why don't you let him speak for himself ? Soham321 (talk) 18:38, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- I am not an administrator, however the arbitration committee in its ineffable wisdom has decreed that peons such as myself may notify people of these discretionary sanctions. In response to your second query, I have no friends. Darkness Shines (talk) 20:20, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- The second part of your statement would have been more believable if you would have been making edits in the main page of the article under dispute. I can testify that you have not done so for at least quite some time; quite possibly you have not made a single edit in the main article under dispute. So the fact that you abruptly jumped to the talk page of the disputed article in defense of Sitush and then went on to issue me a warning on my talk page reminded me of certain rules regarding WP:Meat puppetry Soham321 (talk) 22:45, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- I came here after seeing your comment about meat puppetry at Talk:Digvijaya Singh. I wouldn't bother writing this if I thought it was a waste of time, but you are clearly intelligent and able to communicate well in English, and there are many articles which would benefit from work by someone with an understanding of the topic and Wikipedia's procedures. However, you are going the wrong way at the moment, and it would require quite a lot of effort to gain the necessary understanding of procedures here. If you really want, I'll explain what WP:MEAT means (or you could get a quick answer at WP:HELPDESK—just ask if my activity warrants a description as a "meat puppet"; don't ask at WP:ANI because they may not react well to prodding). Discussing each other is very unproductive and if carried on for too long becomes highly disruptive. Disruption is tolerated for surprisingly large amounts of time, but eventually it is stopped. I mention that because often the stopping comes as a bit of a shock to inexperienced editors—they can't tell which advice is useful, and which is merely parrying from a political opponent, and they carry on for far too long until their removal is inevitable. Please stop referring to other editors in your article talk page comments—just focus on what content should be added, and what should be removed, and why. Johnuniq (talk) 23:18, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- The second part of your statement would have been more believable if you would have been making edits in the main page of the article under dispute. I can testify that you have not done so for at least quite some time; quite possibly you have not made a single edit in the main article under dispute. So the fact that you abruptly jumped to the talk page of the disputed article in defense of Sitush and then went on to issue me a warning on my talk page reminded me of certain rules regarding WP:Meat puppetry Soham321 (talk) 22:45, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- The warning specifically says This is a non administrator notification. In response to the rest of your query, perhaps WP:CABAL? - Sitush (talk) 18:36, 6 August 2013 (UTC)