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Same here. I hope someone do something about this security(?) system. |
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According to a Renault employee, the recently released cars have the gateway locked. I tried coding through ddt4all but stopped writing step. Has anyone solved it? |
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You need to connect can lines directly from BCM, not OBD to avoid CGW. |
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Any walkthrough about it? |
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Was wondering if it was possible, is it working ? If so, you just have to connect CANH/CANL lines from OBD adapter directly to CANH/CANL from ECU, that will bypass the gateway. You may need ECU pinouts, though |
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How can I find Can h/L outputs? Is there a visual about this? |
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Which model I have to select to connect a Controller directly ? Or Scan CAN ? |
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You have to use a wiring diagram like Carmin App |
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When you try to WRITE data to ECU, CGW makes an echo with a part of DDT4ALL write command. So the real command newer arrives to ECU correctly. If you connect CAN Lines directly to BCM then CGW will not work - because you are at internal network. and YES, I TRIED- WORKED. I tried because I sniffed the traffic and saw what CGW do and found this solution. BCM is located under left - down of steering wheel. I dont rebember the pin out but its easy to locate. |
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@pilotkalem So, If we connect to BCM; we can send write command to other ECU's on same the network too? |
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Yes, with that connection you will join internal can network so you can communicate with all other ecu's as well. I said BCM can because it the easiest location to join internal can network. |
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Does it mean that ddt4all will have write option Clio V someday? |
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Friends Clio V is there any new development regarding the problem of connecting to the vehicle? |
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There are no problems with the connection, you just have to connect the Elm directly to the body control module. |
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That's true however it's not possible to save changes. Is this still true? Or maybe I have old informations and writing is already implemented? |
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Guys, as I said before, you can WRITE parameters to Clio 5 with proper
connection - directly to bcm can lines. I tested many times.
2 Oca 2021 Cmt 04:05 tarihinde passyk <[email protected]> şunu yazdı:
… Friends Clio V is there any new development regarding the problem of
connecting to the vehicle?
There are no problems with the connection, you just have to connect the
Elm directly to the body control module.
That's true however it's not possible to save changes. Is this still true?
Or maybe I have old informations and writing is already implemented?
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Is there any manual how to do it? |
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I bought the renault physical token and the SGW Unlocking software, what is the cheapest but tried VCI tool to be used, I don't want to buy bosch tool as it is very expensive. |
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@0p3r4t1oN |
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Im not really a friend of something.... But this could help |
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@dongletype I have now a question... What do you want to update ?? Maybe I can help you directly.... |
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I want to connect with DDT4all to enable some stuff on my car. |
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Okay. Security GW…. you want combine Tactrix with DDT? have you found a work trough? |
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Hello, everyone |
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hay varios paramentos para activar con Pyren , con ddt4all, a mi mo me ha dejado, pero con Pyren si |
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If Tatrix cannot connect to the CGW, the CGW cannot be unlocked. |
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So you can disconnect the ECU and adapt with probes to the connection at the ecu. |
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My drivers version is : 1.0.0.4227 |
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Do you have load the latest RNFI Renault Fullnet from mdx site ? Have you plugged in the token first AFTER install ?? That’s important!!! recognizes Safenet Gemalto your token ? |
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I tried all that and still no luck 😭😭. |
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As an update I tried with multiple VCI tools from other brands without success and the Renault help desk sent me the approved tools that can do the job but all of them are 1000USD+ which are out of my budget. |
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Did you try if a Renault Garage Connect the SGW ? |
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Yes they can normally with original Renault VCI |
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The same |
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Merhaba , i have a clio 5, 2020 |
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@billigizer Which bypass cable did you buy? Do you have a link? |
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Ahh. But that's not a proper bypass, right? As in, you can't leave it connected forever -- you can only connect it when you want to actually bypass the CGW. I was looking at a proper bypass cable, but they're EXPENSIVE, assuming they'd even work -- https://www.uhs-hardware.com/products/advanced-diagnostics-nissan-mitsubishi-bypass-cable-adc2017-for-smart-pro-programmer |
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I'm not sure what is a proper bypass. That's why I'm here. Anyways my unit (autel) offered a token for sgw. I payed 9 dollar and unlocked it. Im not sure how long it was unlocked but i managed to code a second key to my clio 5. I'll probably pay another 9 dollar an do the rest of the things i plan on doing (camera, start stop delete etc). |
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Did you manage to get the cable+tokens working and change your settings? |
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Is there a visual?
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Is there anyone here with a Clio V (2020-2024) and MultiSense/MySense that is willing to create screenshots for me in DDT4ALL to show me the current settings of his/her car regarding all MEX parameters? You obviously can do that without unlocking the SGW, so it shouldn't be too much work 😬 |
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the car will not respond to sport mode. Activation in easylink alone is not enough |
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I'm not sure that was in response to my message? My main concern is specifically:
Right now, I have to press the ECO button every time, which is quite annoying. |
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Okay-- a quick update (Clio V Hybrid RS Line, 2020): Since the upgrade of my EasyLink firmware from 283C39788R (v2.9) to 283C37784R (v2.13), DDT4ALL no longer recognizes any matching Navigation ECUs when scanning. I had a dealer unlock the SGW and used PyRen instead, selected the Communications Unit (option 6) and then DDT screens (option 11). Reading the values of "System Information $DAB1" gives me valid results. I set PyRen to "Expert mode", changed the settings for Wireless Carplay [Wireless_Carplay_function, Wifi_function, WiFi_iVC_tethering, WiFi_5GHz_support], and clicked Write. I then reloaded "System Information $DAB1" with the Read button to confirm the changes were made -- they all show ENABLED. However, upon rebooting the head unit... the settings were back to the previous DISABLED defaults. So either the new EasyLink firmware does not allow tools like DDT4ALL and PyRen to actually write permanent changes to the Navigation ECU, or there's something else I'm missing... any ideas, anyone? |
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Yes, when you click the key reset, easylink will reboot. I can take a few seconds to see it shut off and then another few seconds (5-10seconds) to turn on again. |
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@bokkoman what specific make/model Clio do you have? |
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I don't have a Clio, i have a Captur 2 (phev) |
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What about you @matzel82 or @pyren4all ? What Clio models do you have? |
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I have a Clio V Phase2 (XJAph2) |
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easylink has to reboot
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reset' button, should I get any sort of visual indication (in the car or in
PyRen) that the ECU is being reset? I saw zero response after clicking this
button last time. The 'expert mode' toggle in PyRen resets after every
write, so I might hsbr forgotten to toggle 'expert mode' on again before
clicking 'key off/on reset' -- maybe this could be why nothing happened?
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Okay, here is some information that might be helpful for other people with newer EasyLink firmware versions: To unlock the SGW, I bought the Topdon Topscan Lite OBD dongle (€ 69). This dongle works with an Android or iOS app. In the app, I had to buy tokens to unlock the SGW. They're not cheap ($150/€169 for 5 unlock tokens; each token allows for 3 unlocks in 24 hours), but I decided to just go for it, as I don't want to build custom cables and disassemble my dashboard. After unlocking the SGW, I connected my Windows laptop to a Bluetooth ELM327 dongle (AliExpress). I then ran a DDT4ALL scan on available ECUs for my Clio V (XJA), but none of the A-IVI versions (up to 2.8) gave a match. DDT4ALL would throw errors when I tried to read the values after forcing the A-IVI v2.8 file to load. I switched to PyRen instead and entered the Communication cluster DDT screen with the latest A-IVI file I had for the CIlo V (v2.1). The good thing about PyRen is that it makes dumps of every ECU, so you can always restore if you're making a mistake. Enabled Expert mode, in tab "System Information $DAB1" I enabled wireless Carplay (Wireless_Carplay_function, Wifi_function, WiFi_iVC_tethering, WiFi_5GHz_support) and in tab "HMI" I changed Default_Distance_Fuel_Comsumption_unit to "km (km/L)". In each tab, you need to write before you leave, and then when you're done, you also need to click "Key off/on reset". The head unit should reboot, and the changes should stick. However, I noticed that my instrument cluster was suddenly reset to the German language (my car is an import), and the top left 'widget' in the instrument cluster still showed L/km instead of km/L. Upon further research, I could change these settings in the Cluster ECU. For this, I used DDT4ALL (because the Cluster ecu was recognized here), changed the language to Dutch (press write), changed the gas consumption from volume/mileage to mileage/volume (press write), and then clicked the giant button next to it (which resets the ECU). The cluster rebooted, and the car walked through a bunch of self-diagnosis steps. The language is now correct, and the fuel consumption is now shown in km/L. Last hint: to avoid the car 'shutting down' when doing these steps, put it in Neutral and press the on/off button for more than 5 seconds to put the car in APC mode. This will leave all electronics on until you either turn the car off with the on/off button or the battery runs out 🤣 |
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My car does not come with MEX (MySense/MultiSense) enabled because it was bought as a lease car; however, I found someone with the same Clio V build and MEX enabled. I might read all relevant values from his ECUs soon and figure out if I can enable MEX on my car using these same values. I will post an update on that later. |
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Hello to all. Whether anyone installed original Renault reverse camera on Clio 5 with logo? I need information regarding 4 wires connection in EasyLink module. Thanks |
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Hello, you simply can't because you can't edit camera settings values. You need can clip for this. |
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I have friend who has Can clip with token. Issue is to find 4 pins connection in EasyLink. |
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Following up from my previous message, I've made changes to my own Clio V Hybrid 2020 and a regular Clio V 2020. I'll list the successful and unsuccessful ones here, hoping this can be of help to other people: ECU: ClusterConfiguration 1 Configuration 2 Configuration design Configuration Service and Oil User Set Pref. (MPU) ECU: Navigation A-IVISystem Information $DAB1 HMI Config ECU: BCMExternalLights - Configuration WindowLift - Configuration ECU: FCAM Front CameraCamera TSR/OSP Settings - Part 1/3 |
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...and to start using MultiSense, you at least have to enable the following settings -- the others depend on the features of your car; ECU: Navigation A-IVIMEX configuration CF_MEX_Engine: "Present" CF_MEX_Mode_Def: "Perso" |
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I can connect, read all the values but I cannot change any of them, i've heard it is also the case for Captur 2, both using Easy link systems. Is there a work in progress? Anything I can try? Thanks!
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