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Mary Cannon

Excellent work. I took the liberty of adding categories - please add any more you see fit.

By the by, the viola is probably my favorite of the string family. Beautiful instrument...grossly misunderstood and sadly underutilized. (I really can't think of any concertos for it that I enjoy, save possibly one.)

Keep up the good work, and happy editing!--Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 06:09, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm flattered—I'm new to WP, but had already noticed your prolificacy and celebrity. I thought I'd forgotten something, but I didn't know what; those categories look great.

There are a decent number of Baroque and early-Classical viola concertos (Telemann, Stamitz, Hoffmeister), but then there's a dreary, violin-dominated drought until 20th-century composers like Hindemith start taking the viola seriously again. If your tastes fall in the Romantic interlude, there are practically no concertos, although I can point you to some lovely viola-solo works like the Bruch Romanze and Glazunov elegy.

Thanks for your kind words! FourViolas (talk) 18:34, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

You're quite welcome. Thank you for yours as well. (I'm a celebrity? Get me out of...er, who knew? :-) )

I must confess to not being a big fan of Hindemith in general. (Too prickly for me, I'm afraid.) I'm a Romantic at heart, and I do love some neo-Romantic stuff as well. The one contemporary concerto I rather like is by Paul Schoenfield - it's available on Naxos, if you ever want to give it a listen. And I'd forgotten, but there's an excellent pair of sonatas by Lino Liviabella that I discovered on a disc with some Nino Rota - gorgeous pieces, well-worth a look if you know someone who's looking for obscure rep to perform. I'm not sure if scores are available online, but at least there are recordings... --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 01:20, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Hindemith certainly is prickly. I've always thought his music sounds unappetizing on recordings, but uncurls to reveal a surprisingly tender, fuzzy underbelly in concert.

Thanks for telling me about those wonderful pieces! The Liviabella sonate made my day. You might be interested in an album I was given recently, English Music for Viola, on which Paul Coletti plays Clarke, Britten's Elegy, Vaughan Williams' Romance, and some rarer works. FourViolas (talk) 04:57, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Oooooooh, the Clarke. How could I forget that one? It's one of my favorite twentieth-century chamber works. And I do love Hyperion - I shall have to look for it.

I have developed, of late, an interest in twentieth-century Italian instrumental music, orchestral and chamber, and have found quite a bit available on recordings. The Liviabella is from Tactus, which does fine work in that arena. (Lots of Italian salon music, too - I have a number of their discs.) I'm waiting on a couple of things from Naxos as part of my after-Christmas present - the complete chamber works of Respighi and Riccardo Pick-Mangiagalli, about whom I know very little. We'll see how those turn out... --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 06:52, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

May I echo the words of Ser Amantio and thank you for your excellent work. It is a pleasure to see a user whose first biography on WP is as good as that – certainly it is much better than my first efforts. Did you know that you can add articles to more than one WikiProject? I have added the Biography and Pyschology projects and added assessments on the talk page; while shorter than many C class articles, it is well sourced etc. so in my opinion it merits it.

Have you considered nominating the article for Wikipedia:Did you know? This is a good way to get more people, readers and editors alike, to see it, and with a "hook" like did you know that Mary Cannon's research group found that one-fifth of Irish 11- to 13-year-olds have experienced "auditory hallucinations"?, I think it would be successful.

Also, as a viola player, I'm glad to meet some other people who actually appreciate it :) BethNaught (talk) 19:24, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! I appreciate your help. I wouldn't have known to add those WProjects or nominate it at DYK. I gave the nomination a try to see what happens.

Maybe we should get together in an Evil Viola Cabal, and replace all biographies of living violinists with violin jokes! (Kidding, of course.) Thanks again! FourViolas (talk) 22:28, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks again for your help and suggestions! The DYK certainly did attract eyes, and some useful tweaks, too. On to the next scientist! FourViolas (talk) 04:10, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanls. Werong wiki; should have been cywiki! 2.26.199.223 (talk) 15:34, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh! Thank you for your contributions. I failed to recognize your edit summary as Welsh, so I didn't understand what you were trying to do. Cael diwrnod gwych! FourViolas (talk) 15:40, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Aishah Rahman

Hi I am Aishah's daughter and I wanted to update her page as she passed on Dec. 29th 2014. The on-line NY Times obit is coming out tomorrow. Can I add the source then?

Rubesy (talk) 22:13, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm so sorry for your loss. Your mother seems to have been a wonderful person.

Yes, the NYT is an excellent source. You can use the news-citing template surrounded by "<ref>....</ref>" to place it in the article after the information it substantiates. The obituary will probably be a good source for other information, such as her awards and biography, and the following sources are also reliable enough: the Times review of "Chewed Water", her entry in the Concise Oxford Companion to African American Literature, and this snippet from the Gettysburg College News.

One last note: WP users can be mistrustful of, or even unkind to, editors who have a direct personal interest in a topic they edit. We don't want Wikipedia to sound like advertising. However, if you keep close to what the sources say and avoid promotional language (as you have been—good job!), you shouldn't have any problems.

Please let me know if I can help with anything else. I might take a look at the article later and tweak it a little. Again, I extend my sympathies to you and your family. FourViolas (talk) 23:09, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mary Cannon

Harrias ^talk 03:19, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you from User:Infan8

Thank you very much for your lovely and warm welcome message on my talk page; I really appreciate it Infan8 (talk) 18:00, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

You're very welcome, Infan8! You're already doing great work as what we call a "WikiGnome" in an area which needs people like you. Articles related to popular culture often receive help from users who have more enthusiasm than respect for the finer points of our style guide, so it's great that you're helping to polish things up. You might be interested in joining a topic-specific group, such as WikiProject Hip Hop, for to-do suggestions.

Again, welcome, and please do talk to me if you have any questions or concerns. Happy editing! FourViolas (talk) 21:04, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

@FourViolas: It's like you know me too well yeah I'm interested in that WikiProject Hip Hop; thanks for passing it on to me; how do I sign up for it? Infan8 (talk) 21:50, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Aw, shucks—I just glanced through your contributions. WP:WikiProjects are pretty informal: you can "join" just by working from WP:HH's to-do list or talking with other members on its talk page. If you create a user page, you can add "{{User hip hop wikiproject}}" to display a userbox to make your affiliation known. FourViolas (talk) 22:08, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Play on, play on!

	Tis music to the ear!
	Stradivarius himself probably made a misclick himself once or twice! (I know I have) Thank you for coming back to discuss it. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:23, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Wow, thank you so much! Can I keep them? All right, just the viola then? Strads aren't meant to live behind glass, you know... FourViolas (talk) 05:34, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

About editing Katie F.

Sorry if my editing was disturbing, but I was trying to add this show I saw her guest star in and it wasn't listed on the television, I'm also new at this, so I couldn't find out where to put it. I left to got to the bathroom, with my laptop still open and my 14 year old sister got a hold of it. I'm sorry I toke all the things she edited off there a few minutes after.

Sincerly,

Mikayla ♥ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikayla xoxo (talk • contribs) 20:14, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Mikayla! welcome to WIkipedia. I've answered you on your talk page. Hope I've helped, feel free to ask if you have any other questions. Welcome! FourViolas (talk) 21:00, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Political Party AKP

I'm Turkish and I made the changes.Sorry for bad sarcasm but Neo-Ottomanism is not an ideology of party,you can add Islamic Democracy as an ideology of party.Like Egemen Bağış,Pro-Western figures of party said that they're Islamic Democrats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.42.226.96 (talk) 21:13, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I reverted these edits, in which you claimed the party was led by "Squirrel", called Recep Tayyip Erdogan an emperor, and listed "Cleptocracy" as one of the party's ideologies. These changes did not adhere to our policy on neutral point of view, and are therefore not suitable for Wikipedia. Several of your other edits similarly changed sourced material to unsourced characterizations, and I reverted those too. [1] [2]. Wikipedia is not a platform for disseminating your opinion. FourViolas (talk) 21:24, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Blanking of Prosper Masquelier

Hello. I just wanted to delete this article because it has nothing to do on Wikipedia, this guy is not notable, even in his own country (France). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.2.53.215 (talk • contribs) 13:48, 9 February 2015

Thanks for your help, IP! Article deletion is often contentious, so we have a deletion policy to make things feel more calm and fair. Please read through it, as well as the notability guidelines for people. If you still think M. Masquelier's article should be deleted (I would agree with you), you can start a deletion discussion to reach consensus at WP:Articles for deletion. Good luck, feel free to contact me if you want help! FourViolas (talk) 14:04, 9 February 2015 (UTC) On Wikipedia, we like to be able to keep track of who said what when. In order to do that, we automatically sign all talk page posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) after each comment. Try to remember to do so.

I proposed the deletion of the article as requested, but someone removed the tag. Now I want to follow the AFD process but it reads on the dedicated page that I must have an account to complete it... I'm not a registered user, as you can see... Can you help me please? --109.2.53.215 (talk) 08:59, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks again for your efforts. I'm sorry to tell you that I no longer feel I can support this article's deletion. I found the old discussion about it, which seemed to be talking about a different, better article; I've found and restored that version (feel free to check it out), and I believe it meets English Wikipedia's inclusion standard. If you disagree, you can always sign up and propose it, but I recommend you don't. The article will very probably be kept, and since Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia, we have plenty of room for this kind of thing without crowding out the information you or I want to be able to find here. Good luck with other Wiki-endeavors! I'd be happy to try to help with anything else you need. FourViolas (talk) 03:21, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Wednesday

I believe that my edit is constructive. I added "sometimes referred to as hump day". It's not a sexual reference. However, someone reverted my edit and assumed it was vandalism because of my other edits. Don't people trust that others can change, or is this a objective system. If so, I understand. However, the user who reverted the change probably doesn't know that [Wednesday is hump day. Wiki even redirects "hump day" to Wednesday, so why not add that it's referred to as hump day. Cluebot needs to be fixed or whoever reverted the change needs to know that hump day is Wednesday. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mareals Nanen (talk • contribs) 20:17, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Mareals Nanen! Is your IP address 168.8.249.236? Welcome, glad you've created an account.

I agree that your edition was not vandalism. It was automatically reverted by User:ClueBot NG because "hump" often is a sexual reference and Cluebot, bless its heart, is a computer program. However, the information is already in the article, properly sourced, in the cultural usage section, so you don't need to add it to the lead paragraph. FourViolas (talk) 23:25, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

May we recommend...

A crabby WP veteran violently chomps a newbie who appeared vulnerable, while passive Wikipedians look on

• Lionel_de_Jersey_Harvard
• John_Harvard_(statue)
• Widener_Library
• Eleanor_Elkins_Widener
• History_and_traditions_of_Harvard_commencements
• Phineas Gage

Enjoy! EEng (talk) 04:09, 16 February 2015 (UTC) In all seriousness, let me suggest you remove [3]. Where you're going that will do you no good, at best.

Thanks for the fascinating reading! Methinks I detect your handwriting in the brackets of the {{efn-ua}}s and {{shy}}s—very classy.

As for that, I avoid mentioning it IRL, but wanted to establish a pre-packaged reputation when I learned how little patience WP can have for clueless newbies. I let it slip during a campus visit and was disappointed to find that people care more about 2380 vs. 2390 than at schools with larger $\sigma ^{2}$ (resizing), so I'll probably take your advice before doxing myself to school friends. FourViolas (talk) 04:03, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

If we meet post-matriculation please let's just speak English. BTW I forgot Sacred Cod. EEng (talk) 04:33, 17 February 2015 (UTC) Love the choice of image.

Concerning our little project

Heya FV, I just wanted to let you know that Concert dance hasn't left my mind! It's just a very intimidating upgrade with my sporadic time, so I've been putting it off in favour of smaller issues (though, truth be told, some of them ended up being as involved at the revision itself would have been!). But I still have the sources and hope to get to it soon. Sorry I've broken our stride a little. Snow talk 11:24, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

No need to apologize, although it's nice to hear from you. I'm waiting on some interlibrary-loan sources, although I've also been intimidated. I think it'll be better once we're working together. Looking forward to getting started! I'll try to make that series box in the next day or so.

BTW, I just welcomed a very promising newbie with an invitation to join our task force. FourViolas (talk) 11:29, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) One of the wonderful things about where you're going is you'll almost never have to wait for ILL [4]. EEng (talk) 02:16, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Don't I know it—I can't wait! Although it fails my first test. Hope it's not an omen. FourViolas (talk) 11:20, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

No doubt they'd order it for you. In the meantime: [5]. EEng (talk) 12:58, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

That's great! We should start by helping them improve the sources for Meg Stuart (youtube). Honestly a little...shall we say avant-garde/abstract for my taste, but seems high profile enough something must be out there. Snow -I take all complaints in the form of rap battles- 15:07, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Well this one looked promising at first, until you read the disclaimer at the bottom of the page: "Posts by "DanceLand" are typically news announcements released by dance companies and related professionals for publication on sites like ours. Therefore we don't credit them to individuals on staff." Most every other hit seems to be either a blog, some professional/promotional account attached to her or the (dance) company "Damaged Goods", or some combination thereof. I'm not seeing anything of a quality of the one NY Times piece that is already referenced in our article, so I guess that will have to do for now. It's worth noting that the Times editorial does reference her as having been something of a "fixture" in New York at one time. Are you familiar? Snow -I take all complaints in the form of rap battles- 15:21, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I am now! I found a few good sources, and worked them in without changing the content much. I might do so soon, as it's currently heavy on lists of non-bluelinked European artists, but at least now it's sourced and has up-to-date awards. I like to think of this kind of austerely avant-garde dance as staking out territory for more palatable art to come. :) FourViolas (talk) 11:20, 21 February 2015 (UTC) Oh, and I put up some kind of proof-of-concept dance box in my sandbox. Feel free to change it. FourViolas (talk) 11:22, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the warm introduction. I would be happy to collaborate or help out with developing pages for other choreographers, especially people who fall into this contemporary European concert dance category, cause I dig the stuff. Your cynicism can level me out. Also, the Meg Stuart page looks good. Poetzinger (talk) 04:51, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Excellent! Future curious people thank you.

And don't think I'm old and crabby—I like experimental dance as much as the next person. I'm into Judson (Rainer and CI), and more contemporarily Heidi Henderson and Camille A. Brown (usually). I will confess to heckling at St. Mark's Church in-the-Bowery once or twice, though. FourViolas (talk) 03:57, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you [for welcoming dance IP]

Thank you for your kind welcoming message. Following our chat (under another ip address - sorry) on the project pages about Dance theater, I couldn't help wondering whether one way to help rejuvenate Project Dance might actually be to merge it with Project Theatre. Just a passing thought... Best, 86.134.202.242 (talk) 15:16, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome! (You can always WP:Register an account, you know...)

Your suggestion is very possibly correct, but I don't want to support it because it has a sinister echo of the current situation of dance in academia (it's usually a minor tucked away in the Music or Theater departments). I strongly believe Dance is an artistic discipline as worthy of respect as Music or Theatre or Literature, and I'd hate to see it subsumed by another temporal art form. That said, it's a great idea to piggyback by notifying those WikiProjects when there are goings-on of common interest. Thanks! FourViolas (talk) 16:34, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Piero Scaruffi

i am a close friend of piero scaruffi and have personally had an intimate sexual relationship with him. please discontinue my deletion of him that he has, himself, approved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.228.38 (talk) 09:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello, IP! Welcome to Wikipedia. I'm sorry I removed your characterization of Scaruffi as "homosexual". It's just that Wikipedia has strict rules about how to add potentially controversial information to biographies of living persons. It's nothing personal, but I don't have any way of confirming that you are who you say you are, and if you happen to be deceiving us Mr. Scaruffi might be very upset indeed.

Instead of blindly trusting anonymous contributors, our policy is to provide a citation to a reliable source in order to allow readers to verify that the information they find here is true. If you know of such a source, such as a biography of him in a reputable newspaper which explicitly describes him as "homosexual", that information could be included in a "Personal life" section. (It's not what he's known for, so it doesn't really make sense to add it to the lead paragraph.) If there are only sources which mention particular boyfriends or husbands, it's not appropriate to describe him as "homosexual", because sexuality is so complicated, but the info on his partners may be included if directly referenced. If there are no such sources, please do not add the information to the article. FourViolas (talk) 11:27, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you [for welcoming Jillsigman]

FourViolas, thank you for your kind welcoming message on my talk page. I am just beginning to navigate WP. Forgive me for any blunders. All best-- Jillsigman (talk) 01:40, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

My pleasure. You seem to be doing very well already! Any rookie mistakes you may make will be easy to fix (see Help:Reverting), and if anyone gives you a hard time about them tell them I said not to bite the newcomers. FourViolas (talk) 06:06, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

OOPS. I guess I should have left my question for you here... What did I say about blunders? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jillsigman (talk • contribs) 02:10, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

A Question about Suggested Articles

Hi. Thanks for your encouragement. Definitely a rookie. I have a question for you-- especially given the dance editing project you are part of. Where is the best place to make suggestions about articles that I think should be written (but that I can't necessarily take on myself)? There are many deserving postmodern choreographers that don't have representation on WP and I think it would be good at least to start getting some of the names on a list. Is there already such a list? Or a task page? ...Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jillsigman (talk • contribs) 02:09, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

There seem to be two lists in place: one general one and one hosted by WikiProject Dance. Both lists have some backlog, but they attract plenty of editors looking for projects. When you add names, it's good to include a one-sentence blurb explaining why it would be cool to write about this person, and links to the best potential sources you can find in a quick search. If you do both, someone (very possibly me) will come across it shortly and decide to take it on. Thanks! FourViolas (talk) 12:16, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

This is great info. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.27.147.22 (talk) 15:16, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm happy to help! Backstage Wikipedia can be complicated.

You'll get used to this eventually, but it's helpful to log in before editing; to indent talk page responses by preceding them with one more ":" than the post you're responding to; and to sign each comment with "~~~~". That way we know who's talking, what they're talking about, and when they said it. It's not a big deal, though, especially with our helpful signature robot around to help. FourViolas (talk) 21:33, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

College Days

If God loves you he will allow you, during your four years in Cambridge, to become friends with a truly fine man (or woman) like Andrew Gleason. I had the pleasure of lunching with him at Lowell House about three times a week for years. Just knowing him was worth the whole $250,000. EEng (talk) 04:35, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

The privilege of having known such as Gleason is the only kind that matters. I'll be sure to supplicate Her next time I'm in Mem Church. FourViolas (talk) 06:06, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

I had the impression you will matriculate this coming fall. Am I correct in that? EEng (talk) 16:32, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, although sometimes I try to be cagey about it lest I be written off as another teenage bighead. FourViolas (talk) 20:50, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

I recommend you continue that approach. You're going to have a wonderful four years, but its value is in its effect on you, not on the impression it makes on others. EEng (talk) 03:59, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, very nicely put. I've been collecting quotes to keep me sane, and I'll add that. FourViolas (talk) 12:16, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Somatics changes

Hello, FourViolas! I made some big changes on the Somatics page - please take a look when you have a chance and let me know what you think. I look forward to seeing what additional edits you may have based on what I've done. There is still a need to flesh out some of the sections where I've just briefly mentioned various modalities. The psychotherapy section in particular; I have seen various suggestions for therapy modalities that could be included and now need to educate myself a bit and see what the sources say. Have a great day!--Karinpower (talk) 21:31, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Great job, thank you! I've never really collaborated in-depth on a written project, and I'm just tickled to see how neatly our thoughts complement each other's. I'll put in some time responding to your latest work; you've added great material, and I can already see some things I'd like to expand. It's exciting to watch the article grow to fill this significant, Wiki-neglected topic! FourViolas (talk) 12:16, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Hi FourViolas. I thought I'd just drop you a line to say, well done for trying to solve the Jeremy Tolleson situation. It's important to protect real people from the harm that Wikipedia can cause and your actions were sensible given the situation. If you ever come across anything similar in future and want a second opinion, feel free to pop over and ask. WormTT(talk) 16:09, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Wow, WTT, I'm honored! I hope someday I won't have to bother AN/I over things like this, but for now it's great to know help is always near.

I actually did have a situation which could use your tact and tools. MusicTeacherClub seems to be an account shared by good-faith experts who have made many helpful edits. They have also contributed an OR essay, Learning-Disadvantage Gap, which can't stay. I explained the situation as well as I could on their talk, but I don't feel capable of using the other tools I have—speedy deletion, AFD, UAA—without hurting WP's chances of retaining some of these editors. I asked for Audacity's help (he was friendly to me earlier), but that was before I bothered to notice he only checks in every few weeks. You seem perfect for the job, if you want to take it on. FourViolas (talk) 21:44, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Userfied bio you did now oversighted

You might wish to see this:[6] - I recognise that you meant well, but the bio was inappropriate anywhere. Dougweller (talk) 10:50, 12 March 2015 (UTC)