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Matsumoto Castle

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 20 Aug 2012 at 11:26:54 (UTC)

Reason: Good composition, good quality and high EV
Articles in which this image appears: Matsumoto Castle, Japanese castle, Japanese architecture, List of National Treasures of Japan (castles)
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator: 663highland

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 11:26, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Very good quality image with high EV. Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{WrestleMania XXVIII} _{The Undertaker 20–0} 12:04, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good angle. Brandmeister^talk 14:00, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. High quality, striking picture. gazhiley 08:49, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support a little soft at full size but good overall and I agree with other comments about the angle. Also the lighting works well here. Pine^✉ 03:43, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support a beautiful picture, virtually flawless. Secret of success (talk) 08:31, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Matsumoto Castle05s5s4592.jpg - Spongie555 (talk) 04:34, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pterophorus pentadactyla

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 21 Aug 2012 at 10:34:18 (UTC)

Reason: Good quality, high EV
Articles in which this image appears: Pterophorus pentadactyla, Pterophorus
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
Creator: Archaeodontosaurus

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 10:34, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support not the most beautiful photo but it's good for identification. Pine^✉ 03:46, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Quite interesting, scale bar contributes to EV. Brandmeister^talk 11:45, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Pine and Brand Spongie555 (talk) 19:18, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above. Clegs (^{engage in rational discourse}) 10:22, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above. Alborzagros (talk) 12:00, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Pterophorus pentadactyla MHNT.jpg - Spongie555 (talk) 04:47, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jebel Akhdar (Oman)

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 6 Aug 2012 at 17:49:12 (UTC)

Reason: Good view, high quality, high resolution
Articles in which this image appears: Jebel Akhdar (Oman)
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Panorama
Creator: Morray

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 17:49, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Meets criteria, I don't think we have that many photos from the region. It is a little soft at full size, but that doesn't matter given the ample resolution. I can't see any stitching errors etc. JJ Harrison (talk) 23:09, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Per above. Dusty777 17:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support good work here. Pine^✉ 22:27, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{WrestleMania XXVIII} _{The Undertaker 20–0} 11:12, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per all gazhiley 15:02, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Don't featured pictures require a more full description? Particularly, I am curious as to what the ridges that appear to be man made are. If it is common to use an article as the description, we should require that the article adequately explains the picture. Ryan Vesey 18:51, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It says that they are terraces in the caption both here and in the article, so I'm a little confused. Did you have something more specific in mind you were referring to? Spencer^T♦C 20:17, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Maybe a good idea to wiki-link "terraces". Some might interpret it (as I initially did and perhaps Ryan did) as just levels and miss the agricultural meaning. Makeemlighter (talk) 02:57, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Done Tomer T (talk) 03:58, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      - I see this was already promoted, somehow it got taken off of my watchlist. I was referring to the complete lack of a description on the image page. Isn't that what the criteria are referring to? Ryan Vesey 05:10, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        I presumed description meant captioning of the picture in the article (considering the image description page is on Commons). I don't know if this is a faulty view or not, but I added a mention of terraces to the Commons image page. Spencer^T♦C 22:49, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Jebel Akhdar view.jpg --Jujutacular (talk) 06:13, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Common Blue Damselfly

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 30 Aug 2012 at 11:00:58 (UTC)

Reason: High quality and being featured in commons [1]
Articles in which this image appears: Common Blue Damselfly
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
Creator: User:Mathias Krumbholz

Support as nominator --Alborzagros (talk) 11:00, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. But Alborzagros, you didn't complete the nomination properly, you left the FP categories unfilled. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 12:39, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I filled the FP categories gap. thanks for reminding. Alborzagros (talk) 13:32, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 16:59, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - are you sure this is a blue damselfly? I can't help feeling something like File:Enallagma cyathigerum 14(loz).jpg would have better EV (the bug in its mouth is also a plus). Also the lighting in this photo (particularly the droplet shadows) strongly suggests this was rotated from its original vertical orientation? If so I would recommend rotating it back to vertical because whenever I look at it I start turning my head - something not quite natural about it... --Fir0002 03:15, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is a female and the one you suggested is a male. Updated the page to include both. Only the author can say about the rotations. -- Jkadavoor (talk) 09:22, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for nominating my picture. Yes this is pretty sure a female blue damselfly. It was IDed by our damselfly specialist in the german wp. But I'm not sure that this is a good picture for the taxobox because this one is a young one and the colouring isn't finished jet. So the colour will change a bit. @Fir: the pic isn't rotated. The shadows are this way because of the early morning sun. The pic was taken at ~6.30 in the morning and the sun wasn't that high. Regards Leviathan1983 (talk) 16:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:48, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hoover Dam Panorama

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 31 Aug 2012 at 17:28:01 (UTC)

Reason: Excellent clarity, exposure and represents the subject well. Nominated 2x before by other readers. View image full size to appreciate it's details.
Articles in which this image appears: Hoover Dam
FP category for this image: Dams In Nevada
Creator: Kuczora

Support as nominator --Jimerb (talk) 17:28, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support. Clarity and exposure are superb. EV is lacking a little, this is not only not the main image, it is way down in the article. Image composition is good but not great, the terrain in the right foreground is distracting, not enough to oppose FP status however. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:24, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with the EV, it's the best image showing the lake, and as the result it may be worth going in Lake Mead as well. Theres only one other image on the Hoover Dam page that illustrates the lake in low-water as it currently is, and this is definitely the best of the two. For it's position it's probably good that it's further down, since it's a large panorama. It should probably be moved up into the Environmental impact section and the other image in that section removed, is my two cents on the placement. It could also be used more widely to illustrate articles like Drought and/or Drought in the United States. — raeky t 17:01, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I evaluated EV based on the stated articles in which this image appeared. If the image was included in the other articles and the FPC info updated, I would reconsider my vote on that. As far as illustrating drought, to me it is not obvious that the picture illustrates it. I am by no means an expert water-reservoir engineer, but then again, neither are most of our readers. Perhaps if you showed an image of both the lake at full capacity and the nom, it would better illustrate it. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 19:42, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For example, I look at File:Drought.jpg and the first thing I think is drought. That is a nice image by the way, will have to nominate that one for FP. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:04, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

TBH that image just makes me think dry dirt, not drought. Drought to me is swaths of dead fields, trees, extremely low water in lakes, rivers, reservoir. Maybe this should be taken to the talk page for those articles, see what the editors there think, this is hardly the place to build consensus for inclusion in another article. ;-) — raeky t 02:59, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely something for the respective talk pages, on that I agree. Lots of ways to illustrate drought, and they will be very varied depending on our personal experiences with drought. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 16:11, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support --Alchemist-hp (talk) 17:09, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment As a thought here, if you would to try and increase the image's EV, you may wish to consider adding it to one of the pages covering the 2010–2012 Southern United States drought. Your image shows not only the Hoover Dam, but the water level below the dam, which is clearly a good many feet below normal judging from the water marks on either side of the lake. TomStar81 (Talk) 03:12, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:49, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Qantas A380 take-off

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 1 Sep 2012 at 00:51:46 (UTC)

Reason: Great photograph. A tad bit grainy, but good composition and DOF. Above all, is its excellent EV, being the main image of two articles.
Articles in which this image appears: Aircraft, Qantas Flight 32, Aerospace industry in the United Kingdom, Science and technology in the United Kingdom, Civil engineering, United Kingdom
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Aeronautics and aviation/Civilian
Creator: Adrian Pingstone (talk)

Support as nominator --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 00:51, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
~~Not sure how much EV there is for an aircraft built by the French and operated by an Australian carrier, in any of the UK listed articles, just because it took off from LHR.~~ Undercarriage, though heavily illustrated, could do with a an image like this.. currently the article has a bunch of photos of wheels. It could also replace the identically captioned image at takeoff taken by the same photographer, although in that one you can still see the wheels even though they've been retracted. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs) 04:20, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My bad, didn't realise the wings and engines were made in the UK. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs) 04:23, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If this is the actual plane involved in Qantas Flight 32 as the picture indicates then it has maximum EV for that article, and thus fulfills that requirement. — raeky t 16:54, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the article about the Quantas 32 accident says the aircraft's tail number was VH-OQA. That is the number on the airplane in the picture. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:49, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:49, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Blackwater and Chelmer Canal in Essex

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 1 Sep 2012 at 14:23:40 (UTC)

Reason: Great photograph, Good EV, high quality, already awarded Good Quality image
Articles in which this image appears: Chelmer and Blackwater Navigation River Chelmer
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Landscapes
Creator: Danesman

Support as nominator --Danesman (talk) 14:23, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I don't think image quality is up to par here, not is the composition very interesting. I note that it was taken with a smartphone, and while this certainly doesn't prohibit candidacy, it does make it fairly difficult to achieve image quality necessarily, especially for relatively mundane landscape images, where image quality normally needs to be extremely good to impress. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 09:22, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Diliff. Definitely not great quality, focus appears to be on the water, making the trees blurry upon close inspection, composition is lacking, and the image doesn't appear to show anything special. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 15:35, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:50, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sainte-Enimie

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 23 Aug 2012 at 09:50:21 (UTC)

Reason: Great panoramic view of the commune, with high quality and high encyclopedic value
Articles in which this image appears: Sainte-Enimie, Les Plus Beaux Villages de France
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Panorama
Creator: Tobi 87

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 09:50, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Interesting landscape, and no faults with the picture that I can see. Not the highest resolution I have seen so lacks a little sharpness at full size however more than enough quality for my support... gazhiley 15:15, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. As an amateur I am afraid all I can say is that it is a beauty. Desktop? →Yaniv256^talk_contribs 20:37, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support Colors seem washed out and/or lacking detail on the tan buildings and rocks. Otherwise this is good. Pine^✉ 03:53, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support per pine. Clegs (^{engage in rational discourse}) 10:30, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support mainly because it is featured in the Commons. Agree with Pine and Cleggs. Also, there is a bit of foreground that distracts from the city/town itself and the hill in the right is a bit too dark. Good otherwise. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:31, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I didn't understand your first point, about Commons. Tomer T (talk) 21:22, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I mean that the image is already a featured image in the Wikimedia Commons. Different FP criteria than WP, but featured status in other wikis can be a determining factor. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 23:04, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Not without flaws, but meets criteria imo. JJ Harrison (talk) 06:09, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Sainte-Enimie-Gorges du Tarn-Frankreich.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:27, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1929 Belgian banknote redux

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 12 Apr 2012 at 03:12:15 (UTC)

Reason: From the original nomination by Brandmeister, "A very arty example of the oldschool banknotes, with inscriptions in several languages, notable designer. The bleed-through of the original scans has been largely fixed.". I addressed the dirt issues, but it was late in the nom and so this may not have had enough time for feedback. Worth another shot
Articles in which this image appears: Belgian franc
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Culture and lifestyle
Creator: Constant Montald, scanned by the Museum of the National Bank of Belgium~~Brandmeister~~ and retouched by Crisco 1492

Support as nominator --Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:12, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Actually it was Museum of the Belgium's National Bank that sent me the scan. Brandmeister^talk 15:40, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed. Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:59, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per myself last time. JJ Harrison (talk) 06:04, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support ■ MMXX ^talk 12:33, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support--Morning Sunshine (talk) 15:08, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Question Have copyright concerns from last nomination been addressed satisfactorily? Does this actually count as a free license? Makeemlighter (talk) 21:08, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pine's not here to give us his feedback, so I'll email the bank. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:25, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

From the email:
"In practice, the National Bank does not pursue possible infringements of its copyright on Belgian franc banknotes which were issued prior to 1944. The reason being that these banknotes can no longer be exchanged for euro notes at our counters. These banknotes have no residual monetary value. As a result, there is no objection against the reproduction of a 1929 Belgian franc banknote on the internet (even without respecting the ECB decision referred to above), at least as far as the National Bank's copyright is concerned."

The email also directed me to this document, pointing to section 2.3 f), which reads essentially that digital reproductions are considered legal (not necessarily copyrightwise, but from a currency law POV) that digital reproductions should be no greater than 72dpi and have "SPECIMEN" written across it in large, easily legible font.

I'm still confused. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:04, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Since they are no longer legal tender they should just be treated as an artwork. Saffron Blaze (talk) 00:21, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, that one is a mess. Ordinarily, I can't speak for Belgium, ordinary copyright protection applies to the note/stamp/etc. This is held by the bank. What are standard Belgian copyright terms? The problem here is that "In practice, the National Bank does not pursue possible infringements of its copyright on Belgian franc banknotes which were issued prior to 1944. The reason being that these banknotes can no longer be exchanged for euro notes at our counters. These banknotes have no residual monetary value." sounds like a mixture of this and the below point.

There is then a separate set of rules that affect things like banknotes only, that deal with the possibilities for misuse. Obviously what that is aimed at is minimising forgeries. If you can no longer use a forgery of it, then common sense says that that sort of protection shouldn't apply – but that doesn't mean the law necessarily reflects common sense. (Assuming Belgium works like the other systems I've seen.) If we trust the template, and I don't know on what basis it was drawn up, then it seems to check out?Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 11:15, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Would PD Belgium apply? 1929 + 70 = 1999. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:46, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rather no. But the Bank gives a green light per above so it is safe to have the file in Commons (although there should be a credit to the Bank). Brandmeister^talk 10:57, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On the description page or in the article? Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:07, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The current license looks ok for me, but you may send the Bank's e-mail reply to OTRS to wipe out all concerns. Brandmeister^talk 19:18, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sent. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:17, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I object. The bank may claim copyright even if the content is in the Public Domain. We have seen this happen in the past. Who is the artist? The bank can hold corporate copyright maybe, but those too expire. The law is unclear about this. -- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 08:45, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
The current license does not cover notes no longer accepted as legal tender. The bank does not have anything to protect as they are just pieces of paper with artwork on them. They have no more legal standing or protection than a lithograph from the same time. Saffron Blaze (talk) 11:17, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately that is not reason enough for a free license on its own. -- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 18:35, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Do you have a link to support that opinion? Saffron Blaze (talk) 18:47, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not-free until proven otherwise had been the standard practice on Wikipedia since it's creation more or less. "They probably wouldn't care" has never been a free license. My point is what the bank thinks is irrelevant if the files are old enough to count as free. If bank still holds the copyright (somehow) asking them to release the old currency with a free license is a difficult task. The government probably owns the copyright, not the bank. Currency IP may for example belong to the Belgian monarchy. -- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 04:51, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
I wholly agree. These are no longer currency. As such the bank has no standing in the matter with respect to protetion of legal tenders. Given this, the notes fall under usual IP protections. Looking at the date they are PD in the coutry of origin. Saffron Blaze (talk) 09:30, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The OTRS volunteer who replied to the email seems to have construed it as being "you can only use this on Wikipedia"... another snafu in a day full of them Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:20, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The key words seem to be "there is no objection against the reproduction of a 1929 Belgian franc banknote on the internet (even without respecting the ECB decision referred to above), at least as far as the National Bank's copyright is concerned". The Bank's copyright is concerned in the file, so don't see any obstacle in OTRS confirmation and subsequent promotion. Brandmeister^talk 10:47, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I see why people tend to not bother with OTRS... Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:24, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So what's the story here? Makeemlighter (talk) 20:28, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The OTRS reply I received seemed to think that the email indicated that the file was okayed for Wikimedia use by the bank (which is nowhere in that email, so...). I think PD-Belgium may apply as well, as it was published more than 70 years ago by an institution and not individual author. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:26, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not convinced here. The bank has said that it would not be within their policy to persue copyright complaints of this type, and that they have no objection to it appearing online. This is very different from it being in the public domain or them giving carte blanche with regards to its use. That said, if this genuinely is an anonymous work, PD-Belgium would seem to apply for the artwork. I'd recommend that this is clarified on the image page. IANAL. J Milburn (talk) 09:19, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Soo.... Whats happening here? Its been quite a while... Dusty777 02:55, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:48, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Without a definitive statement on copyright, we cannot promote this. Makeemlighter (talk) 00:48, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for finally closing this. Pine^✉ 00:49, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Olive ridley turtles

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 3 Sep 2012 at 15:05:33 (UTC)

Reason: Good EV for the species and the sanctuary article. I'm not highly familiar with technical issues such as composition and lighting, but this is already an FP at Commons (it was picture of the day last year), so presumably it's high quality in those areas as well.
Articles in which this image appears: Olive ridley sea turtle, Playa de Escobilla Sanctuary, a projectspace page, and a userpage
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Reptiles
Creator: Claudio Giovenzana www.longwalk.it

Support as nominator --Nyttend (talk) 15:05, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Excellent picture. The background colors are amazing. ComputerJA (talk) 07:02, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Sorry, I'm not seeing any great amount of EV here. A fantastic Commons FP, but not really suitable for enwp, where the focus has to be on what the image is adding to articles. J Milburn (talk) 11:22, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose agree with J Milburn on EV. While a decent image, the lower parts of the turtle blend with the sand when viewed at low-res. Bright (and amazing) background is too distracting from the main subject. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 19:55, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Impressive perspective (and lighting of the subject turtle, considering the lens is facing the sun). Shows the species within the context of the wildlife sanctuary, which makes it perfectly viable for FP based on encyclopedic value. Not all there in terms of technical quality, but it's a pretty hard-to-replicate shot. Juliancolton (talk) 03:59, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think that the image I added as Alt 1 is a better illustration of the turtle's nesting behavior but its technical quality it too low for FP, so I oppose both. Pine^✉ 00:58, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose nice sunset, but hardly can see anything else. Subject blends with the background. SkywalkerPL (talk) 06:30, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:32, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Drought

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 6 Sep 2012 at 02:23:56 (UTC)

**Original** – Dry earth in the Sonoran Desert, Sonora - Mexico.

Reason: Image is well focused, shows great amount of detail and has decent composition (as decent as can be for the subject of the image). Above all else, the EV of this image is very high.
Articles in which this image appears: Drought, Brown
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Natural phenomena/Others
Creator: Tomas Castelazo

~~Support as nominator~~ --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 02:23, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to withdraw my support as nominator, agreeing with the others that the image could be better and would be easy to replicate. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 15:05, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Drought is by definition below average rainfall. I can't see any evidence that this shot, taken in a desert is indicative of that. Deserts naturally have low amounts of precipitation. JJ Harrison (talk) 03:05, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The drought article states: "A drought is an extended period of months or years when a region notes a deficiency in its water supply..." Arguably, deserts have a deficiency in their water supply, and seeing as it can be a period of years, some deserts may qualify. Just some thoughts. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 16:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose It's soft, and is covered in light noise. The quality just isn't good enough IMO. Anyone could take a picture of this quality. Dusty777 02:49, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - this is a fairly common sight in deserts, so it can be easily replicated. The perspective leaves much to be desired, and agreed about poor quality of light. Juliancolton (talk) 03:55, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:32, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

comment Interesting hos this picture (or a section of) was good enough to illustrate a National Geographic article. http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2012/08/28/how-can-a-drought-this-big-sneak-up-on-us/ --tomascastelazo (talk) 05:01, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cutaway of an M4 Sherman Tank

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Reason: This is a spectacular and visually stunning image of a World War II era M4 Sherman Tank, with the major components, weaponry, and operating features labeled for identification. I was taken with the image, and elected to place it here for Featured Picture consideration. This file is located on Wikimedia Commons, and has already obtained featured status on the Commons and on the German Wikipedia.
Articles in which this image appears: M4 Sherman
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Vehicles/Land
Creator: Commons User:Malyszkz

Support as nominator --TomStar81 (Talk) 03:06, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nominator's reasons. Very useful. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 19:56, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom and I love the identifications of each part. Spongie555 (talk) 03:23, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support High EV. Tomer T (talk) 07:42, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Question in the caption, what is meant by "propeller shaft"? Is this supposed to be "drive shaft?" Pine^✉ 08:41, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom, @Pine the German description says "Antriebswelle" = drive shaft. --Regenspaziergang ^!? 00:11, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks, I've changed the caption accordingly. Pine^✉ 00:48, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support after discussion and change. Pine^✉ 00:47, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support well made picture, lots of nice details, good description, nice work! SkywalkerPL (talk) 06:33, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:M4A4 cutaway.svg --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:33, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lothar Späth

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Reason: Another try for this nomination
Articles in which this image appears: Lothar Späth
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political
Creator: Felix König

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 12:32, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support - It's good. That's why! (fill here some technical mambo jumbo: contrast, depth of field, w/e) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yaniv256 (talk • contribs) 17 August 2012‎
Support although it would be better if the article had more depth. Pine^✉ 10:03, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support. Good image, nicely done DOF really makes the subject stand out. Only concern is EV: stub article. Has good material, but is barely just long enough to where I'm OK with this being a FP. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:22, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support very good image and excellent quality probably can be moved to Wikipedia:Picture of the day/Unused if it passes until the article is improved. Spongie555 (talk) 03:48, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - not very interesting. Background on right side is distracting. Jimerb (talk) 13:44, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Alchemist-hp (talk) 17:12, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Lothar Späth Ilsfeld 2011.JPG --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:38, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Two Shuttles on the launch pad

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Reason: Meets all WP:WIAFP. Has very high EV and superb composition.
Articles in which this image appears: STS-3xx, STS-400, Space Shuttle
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Space/Getting there
Creator: NASA

Support as nominator --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 16:53, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support I considered this image previously and didn't nominate it because it lacks sharpness. The EV is good. Pine^✉ 20:50, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support per Pine, but good composition, including faint rainbow. Brandmeister^talk 20:57, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support - Pretty decent composition, weak sharpness, but a good photo. The faint rainbow's pretty cool. Zappa O Mati 21:06, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support/Comment - Great composition and EV, but this current version is a bad edit, IMO. The original upload could use a much better edit that didn't clip the white parts and didn't oversaturate. The current version has very visible JPEG blocks in the sky. I gave it a very lame attempt but I don't think I'm good at this. — Kieff | Talk 21:11, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps if someone obtained the original image from the NASA site and someone good with Photoshop/GIMP skills edited it. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:30, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I hope someone steps up. It just needs a touch up. Here's the full resolution image on NASA's website. — Kieff | Talk 22:05, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it need a horizon alignment and a tad bit of an increase in vibrancy. By white parts you mean the clouds, correct? Any other changes you think need happen? --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 22:34, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, the white parts are the launch pad and the shuttle. Basically, any white thing that's under the Sun is oversaturated, so it shows up as pure white, losing details. Compare the original to the current version. You can see the details in the original. — Kieff | Talk 23:55, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see that now. Yes, very true. Something to be fixed in the long run. Maybe put in a request in the Graphics Lab. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 18:17, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support per above comments about EV; the sharpness doens't really bother me. Tomer T (talk) 21:25, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Perhaps it could have been better if the photo was taken more to the left, showing more of the base, but then the towers would be too close to the right border, so I guess it's OK this way. The base is surely similar to the other in the background anyway. Cambalachero (talk) 23:20, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The original NASA image shows the entire tower. The problem is that the horizon is not well aligned, so when someone fixed that, they would have cropped it to the point where they had to remove some of the tower. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 23:44, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I thought that the image was incomplete because the left side seems as if things continued to the other side, but it was just the initial view: comparing the base with the base in the background, it is clear that such initial view was mistaken, the photo is complete. Sorry if I was not clear enough. I can't comment on the technical properties of the photo because I'm not an expert in such topics, but if the others have no complains, then I follow their perspective on that aspect, and reconfirm my full support. Cambalachero (talk) 00:12, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Support per Kieff but I love the composition. Spongie555 (talk) 03:50, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Given that despite the flaws mentioned above, it's sufficiently good enough to pass as we will never be able to get a shot like this again... gazhiley 11:18, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- Image is confusing. To many elements. Not sure what the subject is. Launch site? Shuttle? Water tower? Rainbow? Jimerb (talk) 13:42, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I would say given that the title of the picture is "Two shuttles on the Launch Pad", I would say the subject is the two shuttles on their launch pads........ gazhiley 16:23, 24 August 2012 (UTC) [reply]

That would be it...--Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:08, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Space shuttles Atlantis (STS-125) and Endeavour (STS-400) on launch pads.jpg --Dusty777 17:32, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

6 1/2 Support, 1 Oppose. Dusty777 17:32, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ruddy Shelduck

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Reason: Interesting composition, high EV and quality
Articles in which this image appears: Ruddy Shelduck
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds
Creator: Michael Gäbler

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 11:53, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support - great photo! Good clarity and exposure and represents the subject well.Jimerb (talk) 19:17, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support per Jimerb. Two areas for improvement:

the DOF is too wide, causing the background to have too much detail and therefore distracting from the subject, and
the leaves on the ground are too close a color to the birds to make the birds really stand out.

Those two things aside, it clearly meets criteria for FP. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:31, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Jkadavoor (talk) 08:26, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Nice indeed. Brandmeister^talk 20:40, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Indeed, very nice. --PierreSelim (talk) 11:40, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Great resolution. ComputerJA (talk) 07:04, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Overzealous noise reduction, or some other process has left barely any fine detail. I suspect the saturation has been messed with too, but that is hard to prove/disprove. JJ Harrison (talk) 23:28, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support as creator --Michael Gäbler (talk) 23:26, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:A couple of Tadorna ferruginea.jpg --Dusty777 17:50, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

European Wildcat

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Reason: Good EV and quality
Articles in which this image appears: European Wildcat, Lapiş Forest, Cheile Nerei-Beușnița National Park, List of endemic species of the British Isles
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Mammals
Creator: Michael Gäbler

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 11:56, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
~~Support~~ per nominator. Excellent quality, ~~DOF~~ and composition. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:27, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Support per Matthewedwards. EV could be better if the image showed what makes this cat different. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 15:29, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

~~Neutral~~ I'm sitting on the fence for now. How much EV is there in just the face? To me it looks like many other domesticated cats but from its name I have to assume it isn't. In fact, upon reading the article, we learn that it's bulkier than a house cat but their weights are similar, and that it's fur and size are it's distinguishing traits. Unfortunately we don't get to see these things. So if other commenters aren't concerned I'll strike my neutral. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs) 03:53, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Change to oppose per reduced level of EV. It may be the best portrait on the web, but it's not the best that can be done. It simply may not have been done yet. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs) 04:11, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose The photo of entire cat would have higher EV. Brandmeister^talk 11:29, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support. The best portrait of European wild cat in Web -- George Chernilevsky ^talk 06:04, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support as creator --Michael Gäbler (talk) 23:29, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support! Very good! -- Spurzem (talk) 19:24, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Nice picture. Well done! TBran dl ey 01:46, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Very good picture. Probably could be delisted and replaced by a good quality image of the whole cat later. Spongie555 (talk) 03:26, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Felis silvestris silvestris.jpg --Cal Engime (talk) 23:28, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Papilio ulysses

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Reason: Good EV, high quality
Articles in which this image appears: Papilio ulysses
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
Creator: Michael Gäbler

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 12:05, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: as this is illustrating the species article, I find it a bit distracting to have copulating adults. However I don't know anything about the subject area, is there EV in seeing this particular species copulating? Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 19:56, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would also like to know the answer to that question before casting a vote. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:26, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A photo of the copulating pair is good to highlight the difference between the male and female including the size difference. For butterflies, most look similar but the female will be bigger and brighter/duller in colors. -- Jkadavoor (talk) 08:45, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Here I'm not very happy with the tight crop on left and the part of leaf below. -- Jkadavoor (talk) 08:45, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good details and clarity. Brandmeister^talk 11:22, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I don't see the issue with showing them mating. It's part of their behaviour, unique or otherwise. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 09:24, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support. EV is there, showing the difference between male and female, as Jkadavoor explained. The tight crop is not a good situation. Picture is good otherwise. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 15:32, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Additional Comment the caption should state which is the male and which is the female, otherwise an uninformed reader won't immediately see the EV. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 15:37, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The big one above is the female. Note the coupling too :) -- Jkadavoor (talk) 07:27, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The caption in the article should explain which is which, as the image needs to contribute in that fashion in the article in fact as well as on paper. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 19:01, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with you there, I think it should also be in the image description. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 17:57, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, my point was that it is not immediately noticeable, so the caption might help in the identification. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 17:57, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edited the article and file description and informed the author about this who is not a regular here. -- Jkadavoor (talk) 04:10, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Jkadavoor (talk) 04:10, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- George Chernilevsky ^talk 06:02, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support as creator --Michael Gäbler (talk) 23:31, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Papilio ulysses (Linnaeus, 1758).jpg --Julia\^talk 10:00, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mycena atkinsoniana

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Reason: High resolution; attractive; good EV, as it shows typical habitat, typical growth habit, and the uprooted specimens reveal the characteristic maroon-colored edge of the gills.
Articles in which this image appears: Mycena atkinsoniana
FP category for this image: WP:FP#Fungi
Creator: Dan Molter (Shroomydan)

Support as nominator --Sasata (talk) 09:45, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nominator's reasons. Stunning image! --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 15:23, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Great image. Mysterytrey 14:07, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
support a bit noisy at full size but great composition.©Geni 17:05, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Very pretty, excellent EV. J Milburn (talk) 11:21, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Gorgeous, great EV. Theo polisme 18:51, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Slight amount of motion blur IMO and the messy background --Muhammad(talk) 19:29, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Mycena atkinsoniana 60804.jpg --Julia\^talk 13:11, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

St. Paul's Church, Basel

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Reason: High EV, good quality
Articles in which this image appears: St. Paul's Church, Basel, List of cultural property of national significance in Switzerland: Basel-Stadt
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator: Taxiarchos228

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 14:35, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Stunning picture and subject. It's a shame that the article's a little lacking. J Milburn (talk) 11:24, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Great resolution. Brandmeister^talk 20:51, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- George Chernilevsky ^talk 06:01, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support Good image, excellent resolution. There is a little bit of noise in the upper sky but it is hardly noticeable. The people praying(apparently) are a neat addition. Lots of good details are seen. Composition is OK. EV is lacking as article is not at all long. I only support as it has the possibility of growth if text is translated from German WP. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 19:52, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Not sure if I'm missing a jokey comment here but those people aren't praying... The man on the left is leaning in with a big grin on his face, and the rest are smiling (obviously can't see the face of the one with their back to us) - they are just having a normal conversation... gazhiley 09:34, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, you are not. There isn't one, sorry if it seemed that way. They had looked to me like they were praying, especially the person (lady?) in the back who appears to have her head bowed. Maybe they are not, hence the 'apparently' in the original comment. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:01, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Excellent Image if promoted should be moved to Wikipedia:Picture of the day/Unused till the article improves or is translated from German wikipedia. Spongie555 (talk) 04:31, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per all gazhiley 09:36, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Basel - Pauluskirche1.jpg --Julia\^talk 13:23, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cydalima perspectalis

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Reason: Good quality and EV
Articles in which this image appears: Cydalima perspectalis
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
Creator: Böhringer

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 13:34, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:17, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support The rear quarter of its body is out of focus, other then that, it's an excellent picture. Dusty777 02:54, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support good enough since I don't think there's anything significant about this species' OOF tail. Pine^✉ 08:37, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Pine. Jkadavoor (talk) 10:07, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Thanks for the nomination --Böhringer (talk) 13:30, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Raupe des Buchsbaumzünsler, Cydalima perspectalis 24.JPG --Julia\^talk 13:34, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tachina praeceps

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Reason: A high quality and very detaild depiction of a tachinid fly, illustrating well the features described in the three articles
Articles in which this image appears: Brachycera, Tachina, Calypter
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
Creator: Alvesgaspar (talk)

Support as nominator --Alvesgaspar (talk) 14:43, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Info -- I have added a cropped alternative version, as people here often don't like empty space... Alvesgaspar (talk) 14:51, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Compositionally, I prefer the original. How certain are you of the ID? J Milburn (talk) 21:21, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I put a post in [here], where I got an answer of Tachina sp.. A careful search in their gallery ([2]) permited to arrive at T. praeceps (the other similar species is T. fera). Of course, there is always the chance of being a close species. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 21:56, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support The amount of detail and the EV it gives leaves no questions for me. Composition is better in the original crop. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:19, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support either, prefer original solely because the original is over the 1500 minimum and the crop isn't quite there. Pine^✉ 08:35, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support original. Jkadavoor (talk) 10:14, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Tomer T (talk) 16:05, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Fly June 2009-1.jpg --Dusty777 18:31, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Langkofel Group

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Reason: Detailed view of the northen side of the range
Articles in which this image appears: Langkofel Group
FP category for this image: Category:Featured pictures by country
Creator: Moroder

Support as nominator --Moroderen (talk) 16:30, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Not a fan of the processing used on the photo (seems quite washed out, like it was exposure blended or something, but without the necessary contrast boost). Other than that though, the EV is undeniable and the scene is pretty impressive. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 22:56, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral. There is a little EV, though I think there are better images in the article. Image quality is a concern of mine. It is not well focused when inspected up close. What Diliff refers to is HDR (multiple-exposures) without the tone mapping. No blame on the creator for that, tone mapping software is expensive. Bare-bones HDR is always going to look better than a single exposure. So until someone can convince me either way, I'll be neutral. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 23:14, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
info I stopped doing multiple exposure in the open air because of the blurry results due to the wind on trees. I did not process the image in any way besides some retouching of the sky do to panorama stitching. I think of EV value giving more detailed aspects of the mountain, youseful I hope for hikers and climbers. Thanks for the review --Moroderen (talk) 06:04, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, interesting. Scratch that. You are right about the wind, drives me crazy too. Just saw a video on Photoshop CS6, it takes care of the motion for you when doing HDR. That aside, I'm still neutral on the image. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:40, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There's really no substitute for a lack of movement in multiple exposures, everything else is just an attempt to fudge it, but it rarely works particularly well. Think about it - you lose the benefit of the high dynamic range of multiple exposures if you only take the information from a single frame and reject the rest because they didn't align. In any case, I didn't say it was HDR, just that it looked like an exposure blended image lacking in contrast. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 09:40, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I guess it highly depends on how you mix the different exposures. If for a certain section of an image you only use one exposure, then it doesn't cause a problem. If you are blending, then it does, so long as you are doing so manually. I don't know how PS CS6 does it, it is even possible it 'moves' small sections of the images to align it all. I can only guess, as I only saw a video on it.

My apologies for my misunderstanding of your statement. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:12, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support While this shows quality problems when viewed at 100%, at 50% it's plenty large and it looks good. Pine^✉ 08:33, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The weather didn't really play along, unforunately. The haze decreases the quality of the image, and the uneven cloud cover is distracting. Sorry. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 12:14, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
info I added some more toponyms (imagenotes) to the image (for EV) --Moroderen (talk) 07:13, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:06, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Duke Henri of Luxembourg

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Reason: High EV as lead image also good quality and a quality image on Commons
Articles in which this image appears: Henri, Grand Duke of Luxembourg, List of monarchs of Luxembourg, Monarchies in Europe
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Royalty
Creator: א

Support as nominator --Spongie555 (talk) 04:25, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Question Is a larger version available which actually shows the prize? He could just be wearing a nice ribbon around his neck for all we know... gazhiley 08:30, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently powerful people get the fancy ribbon, see File:KingofSpain.jpg. He has it too. :) --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:57, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Angela Merkel, Karlspreisverleihung 2008 - 1.jpg shows the full medal with ribbon; it's the Charlemagne Prize. GRAPPLE X 03:37, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Decent image quality, high EV. What a stiff guy though:D --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:57, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Pine^✉ 08:27, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Not sure how I got here but this is a striking and clear portrait with a reasonably good range of encyclopaedic uses. GRAPPLE X 03:37, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:06, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hetchy Hetchy

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Reason: Good view of Hetch Hetchy
Articles in which this image appears: Hetch Hetchy Reservoir
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Landscapes
Creator: King of Hearts

Support as nominator --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:47, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose Fine picture, but I can't help but feel it's a little bit too close to the subject and as such not showing enough of the reservoir... Would be better taken from further back to show more... Plus the lump in the foreground is very distracting and prominent, hiding part of the reservoir from view... gazhiley 15:11, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The "lump" in the foreground is intentional for aesthetic reasons; without it, the reservoir would just be a wide swath of water at the bottom and there would be a less of a draw toward the center. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 22:53, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose per gazhiley's comment of not showing enough of the reservoir. I cannot comment on the lump without having been there and seeing how the picture would look without it. As a viewer, I takes too much attention away from the lake.--Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:06, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose Yes, it is fine, also a good view of Hetch Hetchy but much of the reservoir is not viewed well. Mediran ^talk 01:38, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:07, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Satellite image of the Philippines

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Reason: High EV as lead image also good quality of the image also a good view of the Philippines from space
Articles in which this image appears: Outline of the Philippines
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Space/Looking back
Creator: Hautala

Support as nominator --Mediran ^{talk|contribs} 02:03, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Question What are the red outlines (mostly squares, sometimes rectangles) visible when at full size scattered throughout the islands? I have seen them before in satellite imagery. If it is possible to have the image without those outlines, I would support. Also, I doubt Hautala was the creator. The uploader, maybe, but proper credit needs to be given to the owner of the satellite that took the pic. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:03, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- As per the NASA source page, they represent 'thermal anomalies': probably fires or volcanoes, for example. 109.148.135.64 (talk) 22:25, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - As 109.148.135.64 said, those red dots indicate MODIS9 detection of thermal anomalies throughout the Philippines on March 29, 2002. Those anomaly are fire, for example, all the locations marked on the northernmost island, Luzon. However, south of center, on the southern tip of Negros, the thermal anomaly more likely a volcanic activity, and the red dot left of center of the of Mindanao (lower right) marks the location of a volcano named Mount Ragang. And Hautala was the uploader of the image on commons but the image was from NASA. Mediran ^talk 00:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I guess I would have known that if I'd read the image description. Silly me. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 15:09, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For completeness, it seems that FPC is divided with regards thermal anomalies: this nomination was opposed until the red outline was removed, but this one passed almost without comment. I suppose that it is to do with the encyclopaedic reason for the image. In my opinion, given that the fires here are sparse and not of value to the image, I think it detracts from the nomination. 31.53.44.76 (talk) 23:53, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Too soft (out of focus), compared to other featured pictures of this genre. Dusty777 02:42, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose agree with Dusty and the red boxes aren't helping either. Pine^✉ 08:24, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose per Dusty and Pine. If the thermal anomalies boxes were removed, I would likely weakly support this nom. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 15:09, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The terminator passing through the area at the time of this photograph is distracting. Spikebrennan (talk) 15:13, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:07, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Filipino Ilustrados - Rizal, Del Pilar, Ponce

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Reason: High EV also good quality of image
Articles in which this image appears: 19th century, Ilustrado, José Rizal, Katipunan, Mariano Ponce, Philippine Revolution, Philippines
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/Others
Creator: Lynyrd Salapare

Support as nominator --Mediran ^{talk|contribs} 02:29, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Close Fails Criteria 2. Mediran, I suggest that you read the Featured Picture Criteria before you nominate any more pictures. Dusty777 02:20, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Small, limited documentation in terms of sourcing/modifications. J Milburn (talk) 22:17, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:08, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sony A77

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Reason: High quality and EV
Articles in which this image appears: Sony Alpha 77
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Photographic techniques, terms, and equipment
Creator: SkywalkerPL

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 07:31, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support, good quality. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:48, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support This one is a no-brainer. Meets all FP criteria in my opinion. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:07, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good image quality also well-focused. -- Mediran ^talk 03:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support I want one for Christmas. Pine^✉ 08:26, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Sony A77.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 01:52, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Emilio Aguinaldo

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**Alternative** - Another version of the image.

Reason: It is available in the public domain or under a free license, the image is used in one or more articles and the image is among the best examples of a given subject.
Articles in which this image appears: 1899 in the Philippines, 1900 in the Philippines, Emilio Aguinaldo, List of Philippine Presidents by longevity, List of Presidents of the Philippines, List of unofficial Presidents of the Philippines, Philippine Revolution, San Juan, Batangas, Tagalog people
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/Others
Creator: Unknown, Date 1899

Support as nominator --Mediran ^{talk|contribs} 10:29, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone want to do a Speedy Close? 109.148.135.64 (talk) 19:20, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not yet. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:01, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Questions Is this the best image there is of Emilio Aguinaldo? Can we get a better scan?

For such a low quality image, there needs to be a lot of EV, and while there is some, I simply don't feel as is the image adds a lot to any of the many articles it is a part of. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:01, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I guess this is somewhat the best image of Emilio Aguinaldo. But I saw another version of the image. (Alternative image) Mediran ^talk 00:58, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Close Fails Criteria 2. Dusty777 02:18, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Speedy Close Way to small. Spongie555 (talk) 04:52, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This is not even a scan of the original work, but scanned from a book. It's also minute. Fine as a portrait for the article, not even close to a featured picture. J Milburn (talk) 22:15, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:26, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Palm and sunset in Minoo Island (Persian Gulf)

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Reason: High quality, suitable framing, nicely composition of color
Articles in which this image appears: Palm ,sunset ,Minoo Island ,Silhouette and Persian Gulf
FP category for this image
Creator: درفش کاویانی

Support as nominator --Alborzagros (talk) 12:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose not much EV. Tomer T (talk) 12:46, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I edited photo caption and added a little encyclopedic informative note. So dear Tomer T! would you please review your notion? thanks a million. Alborzagros (talk) 13:17, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I'm sorry- this has already been removed from some of the articles, and I suspect it will be removed from others. There are many, many shots like this, and it doesn't really tell us much from an encyclopedic perspective. Also, the second tree (on the right) detracts from the main subject, and some of the outer-branches of the main tree are not in the frame. J Milburn (talk) 22:10, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Issues with EV. First, the focus is on the tree, so the image has low ev in geographical articles since you cannot see the landscape. In the article about the tree species, you don't get a good look at the detail in the tree itself because of the sunset effect, so ev is lower in that respect. Spencer^T♦C 07:44, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose A great commons FPC, but the EV is simply not there. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:39, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Wingtipvortex and Spencer. Also, the sunset effect was nothing because the tree blocked it. Mediran ^talk 11:15, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:23, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Point Reyes Lighthouse

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Reason: High Ev as lead image, good quality, Featured on Commons
Articles in which this image appears: Point Reyes Lighthouse
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator: Frank Schulenburg

Support as nominator --Spongie555 (talk) 05:33, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Tomer T (talk) 07:37, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Pine^✉ 08:23, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support, but as an aside, the horizon is a little curved (the wrong way). Aaadddaaammm (talk) 12:11, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Regenspaziergang ^!? 05:14, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per all gazhiley 13:20, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support due to high EV. Image quality could be improved. DOF is a little narrow. Image is soft all throughout. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:42, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Kaldari (talk) 02:35, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- George Chernilevsky ^talk 21:09, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Point Reyes Lighthouse (April 2012).jpg --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Loren Pankratz

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Reason: High EV and quality
Articles in which this image appears: Loren Pankratz
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Others
Creator: Sgerbic

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 13:08, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm a little concerned about the copyright of this image. Such studio shots are rarely free. Though the uploader claims to be a studio photographer, my concern is the following, was Loren Pankratz notified that his picture would be released under a free license? In the United States (where I'm assuming the pic was taken), in creative work for hire (such as a studio shot) the copyright belongs to the one who paid for the work. The creator may still get credit for having created the work, but has no copyright rights unless an agreement was signed with the one who paid for the work. Once that is cleared up, I will support the image per the nom. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 15:20, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- IANAL, but my understanding is that it is the other way around. Copyright belongs to the photographer, unless an agreement is signed passing it over to the subject. In this case, I have little doubt that the uploader is the photographer if they claim to be so, and I would trust a professional photographer to know the copyright status of their own photographs. J Milburn (talk) 22:04, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Further, though this is posed, I do not believe that it is a studio shot. I suspect that it was taken on the same day as the other photos of the subject from this photographer, just against a neutral background. The author may be able to confirm this. J Milburn (talk) 22:07, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly. Has anyone asked the author? --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:38, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would have to do more research to be sure. What I do know, from when I registered some of my works with the copyright office, is that the artwork I created at someone's request for hire legally belonged to the one that paid me for it. There may be a different provision for photographers. If there isn't, I'm not sure this has been ever tested in court. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:38, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support. An excellent portrait, to my eye, and one that just screams "academic". J Milburn (talk) 22:07, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support after discussion above. I would vote full support if this image met the 1500 pixel minimum on the short side. As it is, it's a good portrait of the subject. Pine^✉ 01:01, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per J Milburn --Mediran ^talk 12:08, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Agree with JM, excellent portrait. My earlier concern still stands, but should it be true, it would be the uploader's responsibility. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:44, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. A very well composed portrait. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 13:10, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Loren Pankratz 2011.jpg --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:28, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Morpho

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Reason: Illustrates the iridescent wings of this species well plus good background.
Articles in which this image appears: Morpho peleides
FP category for this image: Animals/Insects
Creator: ComputerHotline

Support as nominator --Brandmeister^talk 21:31, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support similar quality to other FPs of butterflies, large size. Pine^✉ 01:03, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Pine. Jkadavoor (talk) 10:13, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Beautiful subject, but the right side is quite dark, and the left wing is slightly overexposed in certain areas.-- mcshadypl ^T ^C 23:08, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Saffron Blaze (talk) 16:17, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support per mcshadypl's comments on the background. Picture is good to me otherwise, agree with nom. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:34, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose. I'm not really sold on the composition, sorry. The darkness on the right is particularly distracting. The whole thing feels a little artificial. J Milburn (talk) 08:24, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Regretful Oppose Appears that the photographer used the flash. The blown highlights kill the picture. Dusty777 17:44, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Tomer T (talk) 22:45, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Morpho peleides 2.jpg --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:33, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

5.5/2.5 > 2 King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:33, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

SpongeBob SquarePants

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Reason: High EV, has an encyclopedic value on an article, good quality, also a good image of SpongeBob on a parade
Articles in which this image appears: SpongeBob SquarePants
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Entertainment
Creator: Jorgebarrios

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 10:34, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Low EV for the article. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 13:07, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't think this is the best representative picture for Sponge Bob. Dusty777 17:28, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, seems to be a likely copyright violation, as the character is copyrighted in the U.S. Kaldari (talk) 02:18, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per all above. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 17:23, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:38, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy closed King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:38, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fruit and vegetables

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**Original** – Collection of various plant foods

Reason: Free high-quality photograph. I think this is one of the best pictures on Wikipedia and is a professional, colorful and interesting image of various plant foods.
Articles in which this image appears: Food, Portal:Food
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Food and drink
Creator: Keith Weller, USDA ARS

Support as nominator ----Regenspaziergang ^!? 23:43, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Too dark... Almost impossible to make out what the greenery at the front is... As this picture could be easily retaken I cannot support it... gazhiley 10:48, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support EV is there. Image is colorful and shows good and sharp detail when seen at about 26%, but is rather soft at full res. Agree with nom on the 'professional, colorful and interesting.' --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 03:10, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Messy, not really the best composition, poor image quality (seems like it went through very harsh denoising removing any details), bad focusing (first and last plane totally unsharp) SkywalkerPL (talk) 09:48, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Composition is really haphazard. Almost straining on the eyes. Juliancolton (talk) 15:33, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm assuming you are therefore opposing Juliancolton but in case it somehow comes down to a vote can you please add an Oppose/Support to your comment? Thanks... gazhiley 14:46, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Basilica of San Sebastian, Manila

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**Original** – The interior of Basilica of San Sebastian, the only all-steel church in Asia.

Reason: High EV, has a free license, it has significant encyclopedic value to an article, good view of the interior of the church.
Articles in which this image appears: Basilica of San Sebastian, Manila, Manila
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator: Anyo Niminus

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 13:29, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Very dark, low resolution, noisy SkywalkerPL (talk) 15:49, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per SkywalkerPL. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:28, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per all. Too dark gazhiley 12:45, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:15, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Asterias

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Reason: High EV, is of high resolution. It is also a stunning image of the dissection of an Asterias rubens. This file is located on Wikimedia Commons, and has already obtained featured picture status on the Commons and on the Spanish Wikipedia.
Articles in which this image appears: Common starfish, Madreporite, Starfish
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Others
Creator: Lycaon (Hans Hillewaert)

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 11:43, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good EV. High quality vector. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:31, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Wingtipvorte. Jkadavoor (talk) 06:22, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Excellent diagram. Could use slightly larger labels (I can't read them in 2 of the articles) and a tiny amount of margin around the edges. Kaldari (talk) 02:30, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Those labels are just fine for the image. It is proportional to the image it is labeling. If in case that the labels are small to see, just adjust the pixels when applying it on an article. In addition, 300px is for me the best px to apply because you can entirely see the labels. --Mediran ^talk 05:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Per above. Looks good. Dusty777 01:46, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Tomer T (talk) 22:44, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Asterias rubens, dissection.svg --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:17, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mostar Old Town

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Reason: High EV, has an encyclopedic value on an article, a fascinating panorama of the old town of Mostar. The image has already achieved featured picture status on Spanish language Wikipedia, Persian language Wikipedia, Hungarian language Wikipedia, Indonesian language Wikipedia, Turkish language Wikipedia and on the Vietnamese language Wikipedia.
Articles in which this image appears: Bosnia and Herzegovina
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Panorama
Creator: Ramirez

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 10:48, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Question Has this been nominated before? It seems familiar, but the machine I'm on is too slow to look through our entire archive... It would be over a year ago as I have been away from this page for a year, and only just returned... gazhiley 12:35, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It has, and was withdrawn because the sky was faked. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 13:06, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Cheers Diliff... Thanks for proving to me that I didn't imagine it! :D Therefore I Oppose and agree with Dusty that this should therefore come to a Speedy Close. gazhiley 14:40, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Fake sky as per previous nom. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 13:06, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I don't even think this should be used in the article, though that is up to editorial discretion. In an encyclopedia photographs should accurately portray their subject. Chick Bowen 20:08, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Fake. Kaldari (talk) 02:15, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest Speedy Close There is no way this is going to pass. Dusty777 18:25, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 02:49, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lady Godiva

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Reason: A good image of Lady Godiva also the image is among the best examples of a given subject, is of high resolution, has a free license
Articles in which this image appears: History of Coventry, John Collier (artist), Lady Godiva
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/Artwork/Others
Creator: John Collier, 1898 (Uploader: Hautala)

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 10:15, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose At half a mega-pixel, this is certainly not "of high resolution". Way below our requirements for FP. Colin°^Talk 18:02, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Great painting, deserves spotlight. Repro is good quality -- Lwebdan (talk) 21:33, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Could you please review this photograph against the FP criteria. We are not judging the artwork. The reproduction is very poor: it is very low resolution; it is highly compressed at merely 54kB resulting in JPG artefacts; it is cropped. See File:Lady Godiva (John Collier, c. 1897).jpg for an uncropped and higher-resolution version and also this, which shows the frame. Colin°^Talk 22:14, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose smaller than minimum size for Featured Picture. Pine^✉ 07:29, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose visible JPG compression, even on original (full-size) picture. SkywalkerPL (talk) 15:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Close Fails Criteria 2. Dusty777 18:27, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 02:49, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dinant & Meuse

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Reason: High EV and quality. FP in Commons.
Articles in which this image appears: Dinant, Meuse
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Landscapes
Creator: MJJR

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 13:26, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Good FPC. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:30, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I'm wondering about the fact that this is not the lead image. That suggests that it could have been taken from a more informative angle. J Milburn (talk) 20:50, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Milburn. Saffron Blaze (talk) 12:13, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support. The EV of File:Dinant JPG01.jpg would be higher, but this has a lot of wow factor. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:07, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Wow? I thought that was the domain of the Commons. 131.137.245.209 (talk) 09:48, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above. I agree that File:Dinant JPG01.jpg has a better angle but its colors are muddy, so neither is FP quality. Pine^✉ 06:45, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support: compared to Pine's linked file, the angle is not perfect but the difference is not great at all; it was less than I expected. So this file does enough, even if it could be bettered. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 22:06, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 02:50, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Monument to the 1896 Revolution II

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Reason: I think it has passed the criteria. It has high resolution and had no digital editing.
Articles in which this image appears: Philippine Revolution
FP category for this image: Cultural heritage monuments in the Philippines
Creator: Arius1998

Support as nominator --Arius1998 (talk) 10:55, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, suggest withdrawal this is a very low resolution and low quality image. Did you upload the correct file? I note also that this image has only been in the article since today, and not the minimum of seven days as required by the featured picture criteria. Nick-D (talk) 11:44, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Nick-D. As what Nick-D said, it is has a very low resolution and low quality image. --Mediran ^talk 12:00, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, and also Suggest Speedy Close... No chance this ever being passed due to the issues above... Again with the darkness too?! gazhiley 16:38, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, support Speedy Close per all above. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:47, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Speedy Close --Mediran ^talk 03:45, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:13, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kohrvirab

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**Original** – A view of Mt. Ararat from Khor Virap, Armenia

Reason: High EV, the image is among the best examples of a given subject, also a fascinating view of Mt. Ararat from Khor Virap, Armenia. It was also achieved the featured picture status on the Azerbaijani Wikipedia and on the Turkish Wikipedia
Articles in which this image appears: Armenia, Armenia–Turkey relations, Christianity by country, Khor Virap, Mount Ararat, Mountain
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Landscapes
Creator: MrAndrew47 (Andrew Behesnilian)

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 10:02, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Light to medium noise throughout the picture, poor depth of field (DOF). The EV is mediocre in most of the listed articles, with the exception of Khor Virap, but it's main EV isn't really Mt. Ararat. The poor placement in Mt. Ararat kills the EV there, and the EV in Mountain is low, due it's total lack of mention in the article. Dusty777 17:40, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose nom. There is not as much EV as claimed. It only really adds much to one of the articles listed. Agreeing with Dusty777, image quality is not the best. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 17:27, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:52, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Children of Fatima

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**Original** – Jacinta and Francisco Marto with Lucia Santos taken in 1917 during the apparitions

Reason: High Ev as lead image in Jacinta and Francisco Marto article. Very good quality image of all three of the children in one picture during the time of the apparitions
Articles in which this image appears: Jacinta and Francisco Marto, Lucia Santos, Our Lady of Fatima
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Others
Creator: Unknown, restored by Centpacrr

Support as nominator --Spongie555 (talk) 06:34, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: file is incorrectly documented in terms of licence. It has no US copyright tag, and no publication date is given to support the addition of {{PD-1923}} (for example). So that's one thing that must be looked at. Also, it gives no author and to substantiate the claim that he or she has been dead for seventy years. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 20:10, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment When this photo was published in Ilustração Portuguesa on 29 October 1917 photo credit was given to Joshua Benoliel (died 1932) Yomangani ^talk 23:45, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Close Fails criteria 2. Dusty777 02:32, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw please I would like to withdraw the nomination because I didnt realize how small it was. Spongie555 (talk) 05:34, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:13, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by nominator. Makeemlighter (talk) 21:13, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lincoln Center

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Reason: High EV, has an encyclopedic value on an article, high resolution, a stunning view at twilight
Articles in which this image appears: America's Favorite Architecture, Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts, New York City, The arts
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator: Panoramio/Nils Olander (Uploader: Jorgebarrios)

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 06:37, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Low ev. Only shows parts of either building and focuses on the square instead. In addition, low ev in The arts as well. Furthermore, the image doesn't appear in Metropolitan Opera House (Lincoln Center) or Avery Fisher Hall because there is already an image of a similar view which shows the building much better (and has higher ev) in each article. Spencer^T♦C 07:28, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose decidedly blurry. Pine^✉ 07:37, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The photographer used too high of a shutter speed (1/4 of a second) without a tripod, hence the picture turning out blurry. That makes it unsuitable as a featured picture. Dusty777 18:23, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose As per above - looks almost like a watercolour than a photograph sorry... gazhiley 13:28, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above comments on image quality. EV is not that great either. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 17:16, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:14, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Herbert Art Gallery

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Reason: High EV, has an encyclopedic value on an article, a good picture of the covered court of the Herbert Art Gallery and Museum
Articles in which this image appears: Herbert Art Gallery and Museum
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Interiors
Creator: Cmglee

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 01:34, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I'm not sure what this illustrates that is so significant for an encyclopedia, and the right side of the image is dark. Pine^✉ 07:35, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Issues with sharpness, noise, and chromatic aberration (purple fringing). Spencer^T♦C 07:40, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Low EV to start with. Dark right side of image very detrimental, very soft and grainy throughout. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 17:17, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Pine gazhiley 09:07, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:14, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Tidal Wave bomber

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Reason: High-resolution, public domain image of enormous EV described as "one of the most famous images of World War II."
Articles in which this image appears: Operation Tidal Wave, Oil Campaign of World War II, Strategic bombing during World War II, Lewis H. Brereton, Civilian casualties of strategic bombing, Bulgaria–United States relations
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/World War II
Creator: United States Air Force/Jerry Jostwick

Support as nominator --Cal Engime (talk) 21:50, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom --Mediran ^talk 23:29, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Question: Pardon me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't this be restored to take off some of the scratches and other extraneous markings? Spencer^T♦C 07:25, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- No, you're right... Why else would Durova have spend so much time restoring a great number of pictures? 31.53.44.76 (talk) 15:25, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support SkywalkerPL (talk) 15:49, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now. I'd like to see some (very conservative) restoration. J Milburn (talk) 16:38, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose for now per J Milburn. I too would like to see some restoration before I support it as FP. Good image with very high EV otherwise. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 17:20, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Per Milburn. A little cleaning, and this will get a full support from me. Dusty777 17:54, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:15, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Paclitaxel

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Reason: Large clear model of paclitaxel. I'm not qualified to say that it's 100% accurate but I've compared it to the 2D model and I see a lot of agreement between the two.
Articles in which this image appears: Paclitaxel
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Biology
Creator: Itineranttrader

* Support as nominator --Pine^✉ 06:52, 10 September 2012 (UTC) Withdraw Pine^✉ 18:36, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I'm not sure that setting a precedent with regards to this type of diagram is a good idea. Further, this could reasonably be an svg. J Milburn (talk) 16:37, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose as it could easily be an svg. I am not opposed however, to these diagrams becoming FP if they have enough EV, which this one does. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 17:28, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- My worry is that just about any chemical notable enough to have an article can be (and usually is) illustrated by a picture like this. All of them have very high EV. Do we really want to promote them all? (Something similar comes up from time to time with flags, and could equally hold for a number of other things...) J Milburn (talk) 21:45, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are right. The average reader won't look at these pictures and instantly recognize which molecules they are. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 18:16, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Change my vote to Oppose per J Milburn and my reply to his comment on my vote. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 18:16, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Replying to J Milburn's comment, "My worry is that just about any chemical notable enough to have an article can be (and usually is) illustrated by a picture like this. All of them have very high EV. Do we really want to promote them all?" I would reply that the same can be said about bird photos, and we promote tons of bird photos. This is not an easily drawn two dimensional image of a molecule, which I think would be more analogous to a flag. This is a three dimensional image that is not so easily created. I don't think we'd promote tons of two dimensional drawings of molecules or flags. I think the better analogy for a three dimensional model of a molecule is our current practice with bird photos. Pine^✉ 08:12, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose but three dimensional images are easily created: feed coordinates file to freely available visualisation software, rotate until it looks nice, press export. When there's a way of doing that for animals, let me know. --99of9 (talk) 00:12, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The last time I worked with 3D modeling software, which admittedly was some years ago, it would have taken me a few hours to create an image like this. Perhaps there is now software that quickly generates 3d images of any molecule from a 2d map, but I'm not aware of it. Pine^✉ 05:32, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - I don't post on here very often, but I wanted to say that 3D models can be created in ChemSketch, which is freeware. It has 3D optimization included, so you could presumably make this from scratch in about 10 mins. TerriG 137.73.38.169 (talk) 15:27, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - OK, thanks for that information. Based on that, I will withdraw this nomination. Pine^✉ 18:35, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:16, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by nominator. Makeemlighter (talk) 21:16, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bismuth synthetic crystal

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Reason: High EV, awesome image. The image has been a featured picture on the German language Wikipedia, Persian language Wikipedia and on the Polish language Wikipedia
Articles in which this image appears: Bismuth, Iridescence
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Materials science
Creator: Alchemist-hp

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 11:03, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Unlike those Wikipedias (as far as I can see), we've promoted File:Bi-crystal.jpg. I think this would have to take into account the fact we already have a very similar Featured Picture - it might have to be one or the other. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 12:32, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support I prefer this to the current FP if we can only have one or the other, but I don't have a strong reason to oppose having both be featured. Pine^✉ 07:32, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment how about... having a white background in it? SkywalkerPL (talk) 15:48, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support It is a good illustration of the element.It will be better with a white background though.Mattsung (talk) 16:33, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support I have no problem having two featured pictures of the same thing. They are both exceptionally good pictures, and both illustrate the subject in a compelling way. Dusty777 18:18, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Dusty. Jkadavoor (talk) 07:45, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I love the image, but it's practically the same goddamn picture as another one already featured. One or the other... Clearly, there's significantly less EV in an image when it's next to one that's practically identical. J Milburn (talk) 16:39, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Dusty777. Nothing against two similar pics being FP, especially if they both add to an article. If there is one thing that could be better, it is a white background. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 17:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- How do they both add to the article? They both show the same bloody thing... I'd hypothetically be ok with this one replacing the other, but if this gets promoted, thanks to our impotent delist process, we would end up with two near-identical FPs for years. And that's ridiculous. J Milburn (talk) 19:45, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The one we are nominating here is artificially grown in a "stair-step crystal structure." The other one has a different pattern (likely artificial as well, but unconfirmed). They both show different arrangements of the crystal, so in my opinion, they both add to the article. That is all it was, my opinion. Please don't get angry over it. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's a reasonable explanation- thanks for the clarification. I disagree, but I can at least understand where you're coming from. J Milburn (talk) 21:18, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly held opinion: we get images similar to other images all the time at FP, sometimes images taken by the same uploader of the same subject; sometimes the same view of a historic monument. And we decline them precisely because we have a similar FP; if they are better they replace that FP sometimes, too. However this image is the same and we aren't applying the same criterion. And I would wager we would return to that criterion afterwards, but I'd rather we either did or did not consistently apply the principle. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 18:58, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A good point Grandiose. Could you provide us with links to instances where this has happened? Perhaps that is something to put in the criteria. I agree with you 100% that consistency is a must. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:48, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/ Pāhoehoe ʻaʻā flows at The Big Island of Hawaii is a decent example – it's clearly implied there that if the shots were of the same thing that would be a problem. Things aren't as clear as I recalled, or maybe they were, I haven't had real time to investigate, as can be seen here. Perhaps we could reject the notion outright and be done with it. Needs talkpage discussion I think. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 21:58, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Another controversial one is this; which finally end up as his temporary (I hope and wish) decision to refrain from further contributions. We have to handle such cases very carefully without hurting any. Here both images are from same contributor; so not a big issue. Jkadavoor (talk) 08:40, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to avoid hurting people's feelings is nice, but it's not actually what we're trying to do here. Instead, we should be frankly trying to assess the encyclopedic value of pictures, and anyone with two braincells to rub together can see that two near-identical images can not both be adding enormously to an article; almost by definition, one must be redundant to the other. A redundant image cannot be a featured picture. Think about it. J Milburn (talk) 19:51, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't disagree on the redundancy. This is a simple as having the community resolve to place this in the criteria. Easier said than done, I know. But for now, we have to work with how the criteria is. I would support a clarification on EV. The problem is that it is very subjective, how do you define if two pictures are too similar? Different objects? Different angles? I do propose we take this to the talk page and get some strong feedback from the community.--Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's a question which requires the judgement of editors, there is no doubt about that. Something can require careful judgement but still be a useful criteria- we're all reasonable, intelligent people (in theory) and can all legitimately make different judgements. That doesn't bother me, that's an important part of being human and interacting with other humans. What irks me is that, seemingly, the majority of people commenting here seem to accept that the images are pretty much identical, yet choose to support them both regardless. I don't think we need a specific point about redundancy in the criteria; I think that's pretty clear already with regards to the whole encylopedic value criterion. I'm a little annoyed because I feel that the criterion is being ignored. J Milburn (talk) 21:17, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

While checking all the three images at Bismuth including the FPC pages here and in Commons, my understanding is that the current nomination is an improved version from the same contributor. So what should we do? Ignore this since because the inferior one already has a badge as we done in most previous cases or be more practical to consider the technical improvements and remove (and delist if necessary) the inferior one? I think our motif should be to improve the articles with up-to-date information. Jkadavoor (talk) 05:37, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think you've misunderstood: we've replaced one FP with another before (sometimes through the delist process), and I'm sure Mr Milburn is not opposed to that in principle (whether he thinks this is superior, I don't know).Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 09:03, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jkadavoor, I of course agree with you that "our motif should be to improve the articles with up-to-date information", but the above commenter is correct- I'd want to see the other image delisted if this was to be promoted. If I want to improve my living room with a new carpet, I take out the old one, and put in the new one. I don't leave the two standing side-by-side, which is what those supporting this without delisting the other seem to be doing. I don't need two carpets; having that just looks clumsy. J Milburn (talk) 09:11, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree; so what is the right procedure here. In Commons, we usually feature a new image and then raise a delist request; which is sometimes delisted, sometimes kept. I’ve no problem with the only one FP at a time policy here; but it is difficult to remove an FP from an article and delist it (claiming not used anywhere) before making a new nomination. Or do we have something similar to MVR an in VI of Commons? (I too don’t want to keep them side by side. It may be added by somebody who has no confidence to remove the old one. May we remove it?) Jkadavoor (talk) 14:22, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You can open a "delist/replace" request at the bottom of the page. That would probably have been the proper way to nominate this image. I'd be completely happy with a D/R request being opened, but, for that to happen, we'd have to oppose this for now. J Milburn (talk) 15:03, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I just informed the contributor for his opinion (as he is a subject expert too) prior to open a "delist/replace" request and hope it is fair. Jkadavoor (talk) 05:37, 13 September 2012 (UTC) .. and see his reply below. Jkadavoor (talk) 07:13, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose (or replace other FP) until the community has identified and taken suitable steps to minimise the contradiction Mr Milburn has identified. I would be personally worried about my own contribution area – vector maps. You could make a trivial change and if the existence of the original was considered irrelevant then it too must pass. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 21:50, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For me, the creator, both images are FP. We have two different images from the element Bismuth: the size, the scale, colors, appearance, ... . It is simple to take allways two or more FPs from the same thing. Sample: a view of a city: by day, by night, by sun, by rain, by other view, from the air, .... An animal: female, male, baby, portrait, in the nature, ... and so on, endless. I'd like to take also more bismuth images: from large bars, crystalline fragments from a bar, and ... --Alchemist-hp (talk) 23:20, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
and a Support too. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 09:43, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be perfectly happy with two images that demonstrated different things, but these two images are more similar than that. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 10:03, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Wismut Kristall und 1cm3 Wuerfel.jpg --Dusty777 18:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

7 6 Support, 2 Oppose Dusty777 18:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Considering this was a moderately controversial nomination, I think you're displaying horrendously poor judgement in closing it when you were one of those who supported it. I'm not going to revert you, as I do think this closure is probably the right one (even if I believe it to be for the wrong reasons), but I do not think you should make closes like this in the future. J Milburn (talk) 19:16, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I considered not closing it (since I had Supported the nomination), but I decided to go ahead and close it, since my vote is not the deciding factor in the nomination (without my vote, the Support vote still has a 2/3 majority.) I'll go ahead and strike through my vote, since you have presented concerns over my closing it while supporting it. I don't think it will make a difference, but if it makes one person happy, I guess it's worth it. Does that clear up your concerns? Dusty777 17:00, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think a judge could preside over a case in which (s)he was a witness, even if the statement wasn't officially counted. Again, I'm not trying to kick up a fuss, I'm just recommending that this is not something you should do in the future. J Milburn (talk) 17:19, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your concern. I'm not about to close a nomination as Promoted or Not Promoted if my vote makes the difference between the two. However, if my vote makes no difference in the result, I see no reason as to why I shouldn't close the nomination. Dusty777 02:16, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We are not desperately short of closers, and, even if we were, I think we'd look to the most experienced closers to "double-up" first. This is getting silly- you need to make your choice between taking part in a discussion and closing discussions. In all but the most obvious cases, it needs to be one or the other, as with any other discussion or process on Wikipedia. J Milburn (talk) 07:18, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Even if a more experienced user had closed the nomination, the result would have been the same (Promoted)... I'm still not seeing your point concerning this nomination, but I guess I will consider your advice about closing nominations that I participated in. Thanks for your advice and concern. Dusty777 17:37, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Brp Gregorio Del Pilar

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Reason: Good quality image of the BRP Gregorio del Pilar, has a free license.
Articles in which this image appears: BRP Gregorio del Pilar (PF-15), Philippines
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Vehicles/Water
Creator: U.S. Navy/Sean Furey (Uploader: Phichanad)

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 09:27, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Fine picture, albeit with some minor distrating elements, but where is the EV? The lead image lacks in some areas but at least shows most of the ship. Most importanly this is below image size requirements at this point. 131.137.245.208 (talk) 10:58, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose significantly below minimum size requirement for FP. Pine^✉ 19:41, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per pine. Very little EV. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 19:54, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Close Fails criteria 2. Dusty777 21:58, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw I would like to withdraw my nomination. It has failed the criteria 2 on the FP criteria. Mediran ^talk 09:53, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:50, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by nominator. Makeemlighter (talk) 22:50, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

François Hollande

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Reason: High EV as lead picture, good portrait, good quality
Articles in which this image appears: François Hollande and many others
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political
Creator: Jean-Marc Ayrault, Flickr

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 14:06, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support very high EV. Good picture as well. Pose is OK, not showing as much of the whole face, but not a big deal to me. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 17:05, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think File:François Hollande Journées de Nantes.jpg would be better then the current one nominated as the cropped version cuts off the elbow and arm. Spongie555 (talk) 04:27, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Added as alternative. But I don't like the green parts. Tomer T (talk) 06:54, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - I just noticed the green but it is better then the crop it doesn't take away as much. Spongie555 (talk) 04:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alt Much better then crop and I don't mind the green in the corner. Spongie555 (talk) 04:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The composition of this photo seems rather crowded, and the angle is awkward - Hollande's forearm dominates the photo. Nick-D (talk) 10:30, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alt --Mediran ^talk 08:45, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose both Per Nick-D. - Blieusong (talk) 13:39, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose both awkward angle. Pine^✉ 08:20, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose alt, Neutral orig. His suited shoulder is not interesting, and the face shot has more visual impact. However, I agree that this angle is a bit awkward no matter how you crop it. --99of9 (talk) 00:03, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alt--Paris 16 (talk) 16:41, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Both Poor viewing angle. Dusty777 17:52, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:51, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Noam Gershony

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Reason: Quite good quality, high EV, nice action shot.
Articles in which this image appears: Noam Gershony
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Sport
Creator: robbiesaurus, Flickr

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 11:10, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose for now, as EV is not there that much in such a short article. It is a good image regardless, and would support FP once article is longer. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 17:12, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I will try to translate to English the full Hebrew article. Tomer T (talk) 18:40, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Done. I'd be grateful if someone will check the article. Tomer T (talk) 09:29, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Change my vote to Support per increased EV. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 18:49, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support now that the article is longer. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 16:53, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral I would support if this showed him without the sunglasses. Pine^✉ 08:15, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It seems that in most of his games he plays with sunglasses on, so the sunglasses themselves have EV. Tomer T (talk) 14:31, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - OK, although I'm changing my vote per Dusty's comment. Pine^✉ 04:13, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Seems to be a lot of motion blur. Other Featured Pictures of athletes don't have half as much. Dusty777 21:39, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Dusty777. I had wondered about that motion blur too but I didn't bother to go look at our existing action FPs, which I wish I had done in hindsight. See for example File:Water_skiing_on_the_yarra02.jpg. I found one existing action FP with some definite blur but most are more like the example that I linked. Pine^✉ 04:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:53, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dendrobates azureus

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Reason: Good EV and quality
Articles in which this image appears: Dendrobates azureus
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Amphibians
Creator: Quartl

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 08:21, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Excellent quality and DOF. Strong EV. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 17:13, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Jkadavoor (talk) 08:49, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support good quality and striking image of this weird creature. Nice pose! The strong flash light reflection is disappointing though. --ELEKHH^T 22:35, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Pine^✉ 08:13, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Alchemist-hp (talk) 18:32, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Excellent. The colors look great. ComputerJA (talk) 20:25, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support That's Supportable. Alborzagros (talk) 08:29, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 12:39, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Dendrobates azureus qtl1.jpg --Jujutacular (talk) 13:21, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Israel–Egypt barrier

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 19 Sep 2012 at 11:39:14 (UTC)

Reason: High EV, good angle
Articles in which this image appears: Israel–Egypt barrier
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Others
Creator: Idobi1

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 11:39, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support There is a decent amount of EV in this image. Per nom, angle is good. Image is soft at full resolution; it seems it was focused on the other side of the fence. Good composition otherwise.--Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 17:09, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Quality is alright; the perspective is good for EV as it emphasizes the extent of the barrier. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:12, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose this has focus problems on the far left and also loses focus into the distance. I would support this same shot if we could get it without focus problems. Pine^✉ 08:19, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Good quality and unique display. It got me to look close into it. ComputerJA (talk) 20:24, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral It's focused on the fence, not the road - that's a good thing! However this is only f/5.6 and didn't need the high shutter speed used, so greater depth was possible, and I cannot support. --99of9 (talk) 00:07, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It was not shooted by a professional photographer. Tomer T (talk) 09:24, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - I am not either, so this is not professional advice ;-). But I do think that FP should be the best we've got - often that is achieved by amateurs, but sometimes it's not. --99of9 (talk) 10:38, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

*Support - from my perspective having had a look I don't think the technical flaws have much of an impact on the image's encyclopedic value and don't outweigh it. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 18:35, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Jkadavoor (talk) 08:42, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 12:40, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:ISR-EGY border 6521a.jpg --Jujutacular (talk) 13:35, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

John Henry Newman

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Reason: High EV as lead image and very good quality
Articles in which this image appears: John Henry Newman, Argument from morality, John Everett Millais,
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Others
Creator: John Everett Millais

Support as nominator --Spongie555 (talk) 04:06, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Tomer T (talk) 09:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 18:13, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Jkadavoor (talk) 05:39, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Perfect candidate. J Milburn (talk) 21:15, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above --Mediran ^talk 08:42, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support.Perfect candidate. Yanu Tri (talk) 04:16, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Colin°^Talk 15:29, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support I think the technical quality of the digital photo could be better but the painting certainly has its place among FPs. Pine^✉ 08:25, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support - absolutely shows the weight of the world. Bearian (talk) 19:34, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:John Henry Newman by Sir John Everett Millais, 1st Bt.jpg --Jujutacular (talk) 13:39, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fan dance

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Reason: Good quality, very nice composition. High EV - adding much value to the article fan dance, and giving a good sense of the subject.
Articles in which this image appears: Fan dance
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Culture and lifestyle
Creator: AngMoKio

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 09:03, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Question: How much does four hands holding four fans illustrate fan dance? Composition and quality are good, but the colors are way too bright. If the EV is really there (I don't see it), I'll likely weakly support. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 18:20, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support as very nicely composed. 19:33, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Not Promoted --Jujutacular (talk) 13:41, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kallima inachus

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Reason: High EV and good quality. Illustrating pretty good the camouflage of this butterfly as a "dead leaf", yet giving a good detail of its overall appearance. FP and VI in Commons.
Articles in which this image appears: Kallima inachus
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
Creator: Quartl

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 09:11, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Superb EV. And I had wondered why we were nominating a picture of a leaf :D --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 18:11, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Jkadavoor (talk) 05:42, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Excellent! Dusty777 17:56, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per all above --Mediran ^talk 10:14, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Pine^✉ 08:26, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Great picture! ComputerJA (talk) 20:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per all Supports ideas. Alborzagros (talk) 08:28, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 12:41, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Kallima inachus qtl1.jpg --Jujutacular (talk) 13:43, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Beach hut

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Reason: Adds much value to the article Beach hut, and is of good quality
Articles in which this image appears: Beach hut
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Culture and lifestyle
Creator: Gzzz

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 10:34, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support. EV is decent, image has excellent DOF and colors. Composition is not greatest, with the horizon being so close to the middle of the picture. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 18:03, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

After the concerns brought up below, I change my vote to Oppose. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:11, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Question Are we looking at the back or front of these huts? And why does it look like half of them are falling over? Surely there is a better view and quality of hut available to photograph? gazhiley 16:59, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good EV and colors. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:13, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Unexciting composition. The huts aren't the prettiest examples, and given their wonky angles, are possibly not used and neglected. The image appears over saturated. Since a "Beach Hut" is a classic photo opportunity, we can do better than this. Colin°^Talk 15:33, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I very much agree with the points Colin raised, hence my question above. I think we can do better... gazhiley 10:55, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Per Colin. Dusty777 16:42, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Jujutacular (talk) 13:48, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin Murphy

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**Original** – **Kevin Wagner Murphy** is an American actor and writer best known as the voice and puppeteer of Tom Servo on the Peabody Award-winning comedy series *Mystery Science Theater 3000*. The cornfield is a reference to a recurring joke made on RiffTrax, with which Murphy is involved.

Reason: It's not absolutely huge, but it's eye-catching, of a high technical quality and was created (and released) by a notable photographer. To me, this is what portraits should look like, and they make excellent featured pictures.
Articles in which this image appears: Kevin Murphy (actor) (just replaced a far-inferior photo) and Tom Servo
FP category for this image: People/Entertainment
Creator: Kyle Cassidy

Support as nominator --J Milburn (talk) 16:03, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment is there a reason he's in a wheat field? Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 16:09, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It's probably just some space very close to his home- he lives in the Minneapolis–Saint Paul area, and the picture was taken not far from there. J Milburn (talk) 16:45, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's corn, not wheat. --evrik ^(talk) 18:36, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support - although I would prefer it without the gratuitous wheat field, it could certainly be worse on that front and the other features are good. Also his actual occupation doesn't require a part of the photograph for it to be an FP. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 18:13, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Excellent image with good colors, DOF and composition. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 18:01, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Famous photographer or not... I don't like the lighting (most of his face dark, and doesn't even render dramatic or whatever), the distracting wheat, and the slightly offset (see no reason for this) composition. - Blieusong (talk) 09:25, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support It is an excellent photo, nice. --Mediran ^talk 11:58, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Blieusong. ~~I can't really imagine what the photographer was thinking wrt the setting. They eyes in particular are too dark. Plus, at 1201 × 1800 it is below the 1500 threshold, with no good excuse.~~ Colin°^Talk 13:20, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I can get a bigger copy of the file if necessary. --evrik ^(talk) 18:36, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The new version is big enough now per criteria. It has been brightened a bit, which helps with the eye shadows but the result is increased noise in those shadows if one is being really picky -- ideally those would have been eliminated with a reflector or flash. Still, that's an improvement. There's a rather distracting nasal hair that was absent from the original and really could do with being plucked, photographically :-). The picture is softer too. Perhaps it wasn't sharpened like the previous one? I get the setting now (see J Milburn's comment below). This would work really well if that was a significant meme that was mentioned and reliably cited in the article. Having the article image caption quoting the "Is corn grass" line would help the whole thing make sense and shift me to a support. However, it is hard to get a decent caption into the lead image of an infobox, which is why those templates can sometimes be a PITA. As it stands, without article support for the weird setting, the EV is damaged and the portrait not fine enough to compensate. I appreciate the effort made here, and there's no doubt it is a valuable image and a million times better than what we had and what we typically have. Colin°^Talk 19:47, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose agree with Blieusong. Pine^✉ 08:27, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~: the lighting is unfortunate. Incidentally that isn't wheat. I don't know what it is (some sort of grass) but it's not wheat. Chick Bowen 18:08, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Neutral at higher resolution and with explanation. The resolution does make a difference because his hair stands out better from the white sky. Chick Bowen 15:50, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support I like the vibrant colors. --evrik ^(talk) 18:36, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Kyle Cassidy has sent me a larger resolution shot, which I've uploaded over the top of the old one, and he also sent an explanation of the corn- apparently, asking "is corn grass?" is one of the ongoing memes of RiffTrax, with which Kevin Murphy is involved. See this forum and this YouTube video. That's why the photograph was taken where it was- I can expand the various captions as necessary if people think it would be helpful. J Milburn (talk) 19:08, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I think the new version has better lighting, but it's blurry, and the embarrassingly placed hair mentioned above is also a detraction. I'm still firmly opposed. Pine^✉ 08:18, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Size wasn't a reason for me to oppose, so I keep opposing. - Blieusong (talk) 20:26, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - yet another unsmiling portrait. Bearian (talk) 19:32, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Smiles! J Milburn (talk) 16:26, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Per above. Just doesn't look good. Dusty777 16:40, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:08, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dead man's fingers

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Reason: Good quality and EV
Articles in which this image appears: Xylaria polymorpha
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Fungi
Creator: Michael Gäbler

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 18:01, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I'd prefer the other pic in the article except that it has focus problems, so I oppose both. Pine^✉ 19:47, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
~~Support~~ Great quality. Before even reading the title, I immediately thought "Dead man's fingers" upon looking at the picture. ~~Very good illustration of the subject.~~ --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 19:52, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Per J Milburn's comments below (atypical specimen, atypical habitat), I am changing my vote to Oppose. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 22:16, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

~~Support~~ Jkadavoor (talk) 05:35, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. It's no secret that I love fungi, but this is not a good illustration for this article, for the following reasons: Firstly, there is very little by way of size reference. Secondly, the colouration and shape of this specimen is very atypical; this just doesn't look like Xylaria polymorpha. From oldest to youngest (yanked from the first page of results from Mushroom Observer) I'd expect them to look like this, this, this or this. The fact that this specimen looks atypical (if it is not completely misidentified) is backed up by the article and a field guide I've just pulled off my shelf. Further, I do not like the vibrant green background for a dark fungus typically found on rotting logs or detritus-rich soil. That's almost misleading- like photographing a seal on grass. This is a common species (and one I've photographed myself- much more tyical specimens on a much more typical background, though somewhat younger) and so I'd want to see a much stronger photo for featured status, and, frankly, if I was to rewrite the article (which I'll look into- it needs some love) I would be removing this picture. Sorry. J Milburn (talk) 17:03, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the expert (or very knowledgeable enthusiast, your choice :p ) views. Makes a lot of sense. In this case, the other pic in the article is a better illustration, although a poorer picture.--Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 22:16, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawing my support per J Milburn. This nomination was opposed by the subject expert Citron at Commons too although he didn't question the ID. So I think this is the super macro of the top part of the specimen as the contributor explained in the file description. A picture of a full specimen with information on the environment of this fungus and how it grows may be more suitable for the info-box (per Citron). Jkadavoor (talk) 05:20, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Quite an impressive breakdown Milburn. Dusty777 17:09, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw per J. Tomer T (talk) 18:07, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:58, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by nominator. Makeemlighter (talk) 23:58, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ultrasound scan of fetal open spina bifida

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Original – Ultrasound image of the spine at 21 weeks of pregnancy in a fetus affected by open spina bifida. In the longitudinal scan a lumbar myelomeningocele is seen.

Reason: Hight EV, unique in Wp
Articles in which this image appears: Spina bifida
FP category for this image: spina bifida
Creator: Wolfgang Moroder

Support as nominator --Moroderen (talk) 21:49, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Close File has not been in article for seven days per criteria 5. Dusty777 17:49, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:59, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mall of Asia main

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Reason: Has a free license, good image of the main facade of the Mall of Asia.
Articles in which this image appears: Arquitectonica, SM Mall of Asia
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator: Red marquis

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 13:00, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Close I'm sorry Mediran (probably getting tired of my putting this on your nominations), but it fails criteria 2. Dusty777 17:07, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment/Question as I browsed the pictures that are already featured or reached the FP status, I saw an image the same with the resolution of this photo. The image was this and of 2,048 × 1,362 pixels the same with of the nomination. Mediran ^talk 02:03, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The standards were recently increased. Chris857 (talk) 03:03, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I see.Mediran ^talk 03:24, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Withdraw I would like to withdraw my nomination. The image once again fails critria 2 on the FP criteria. Mediran ^talk 03:24, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Jujutacular (talk) 21:05, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Accordion player

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Reason: High EV in Accordion (not the lead image because displaying the instrument itself as a lead image seems more reasonable), good quality and impressive
Articles in which this image appears: Accordion, Quito
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Entertainment
Creator: Cayambe

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 18:19, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~ Its a good image but has no EV in the article. Spongie555 (talk) 04:02, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Because its not lead? Tomer T (talk) 06:32, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Actually after reviewing the article the picture has EV for depicting someone playing a keyboard accordion. So i change my vote to Support. Spongie555 (talk) 05:06, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support As per nom, I am satisfied by the ev for this - shows how an accordian is played, whereas a picture of an accordion on its own doesn't... gazhiley 10:31, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support good image. EV is good in terms of how it is played, but it not being the lead image, I don't feel like giving it a full support vote. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 22:05, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support No need for the image to be the lead for it to have EV and be an FP. The article needs an image showing someone playing one, which the lead fails to achieve. As for the picture, its a good one. Colin°^Talk 15:40, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support something about the angle of this photo seems strange to me, but I agree that the photo has good EV for the article. Pine^✉ 08:30, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The article mentions that the instrument is often used in busking, so EV seems high in that regard. Chick Bowen 18:07, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I find his expression quite odd. I thought he was dead or in distress. Saffron Blaze (talk) 23:07, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- ~~He's lost in the moment - eyes closed, head back, probably playing a tune that has great importance to him... gazhiley 09:00, 17 September 2012 (UTC)~~[reply]
- Tomascastelazo says in the Commons FP nomination that he is blind. Tomer T (talk) 09:26, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Ooops - that'll teach me to blindly assume something... gazhiley 10:52, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Support he seems very human. Jkadavoor (talk) 08:51, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thanks for the explanation. Saffron Blaze (talk) 12:27, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 12:41, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Quito Accordion player.jpg --Julia\^talk 15:11, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Christ in the House of His Parents

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Reason: High ev as lead image and another good quality image from the Millais collection.
Articles in which this image appears: Christ in the House of His Parents
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator: John Everett Millais

Support as nominator --Spongie555 (talk) 03:01, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Mediran ^talk 08:38, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose due to noise and pixelation at full res. Decent EV. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:54, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment "It helped to catapult the Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood" - so that's what Joseph is building ("to public attention" or "to notoriety" maybe). Yomangani^talk 01:10, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The description underneath the picture in the nomination is just a summary of the picture for voters and wont be used for the front page if passed. Spongie555 (talk) 05:09, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The image looks awful at full res. It has clearly been enlarged beyond the original capture size. I suspect Google Art Project is letting users magnify to 200%, and then someone has captured this. If reduced by 50% it looks ok but then it is merely a 2250x1366 image, which is below our 1500 threshold and nothing special. Colin°^Talk 13:15, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose technical quality could use improvement. Pine^✉ 08:31, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Julia\^talk 15:22, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Mansion, Baguio City

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Reason: I believe it meets the criteria for FP. It had high resolution and has a free license. It also did not undergo any digital manipulation like Photoshop.
Articles in which this image appears: The Mansion, Baguio
FP category for this image
Creator: Arius1998

Support as nominator --Arius1998 (talk) 06:24, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Not much EV and most of its focus or the foreground of the image was the brown thing on the bottom. --Mediran ^talk 09:05, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. As Mediran said, the focus seems to be on the dead grass or earth taking up most of the picture, so the proportions aren't right. A more elevated picture would be more beneficial to more accuratly show the building... gazhiley 09:42, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose due to very bad composition. Maybe a crop? --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:51, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Why crop it? now it became worse. --Mediran ^talk 03:32, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - The crop wasn't done correctly, but the general idea of removing much of the foreground is helpful. Spencer^T♦C 05:36, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Per Mediran. What's with the poor cropping job? Dusty777 16:38, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Julia\^talk 15:28, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Dickens

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Reason: Has a free license, good quality, it is a good portrait of Charles Dickens when he was young.
Articles in which this image appears: Charles Dickens
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Others
Creator: Daniel Maclise, 1839

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 09:00, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per the floating head... i.e. this picture is so dark that unless I stare hard all I can see is his head and hands... I've checked my monitor settings as there have been a few recent over-dark noms, but the settings appear fine... gazhiley 09:39, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's not dark at all for me... --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:49, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Support nice image but low-ish EV.--Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:49, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't think this painting contributes a lot of EV to the article Charles Dickens and the darkness isn't helping. Pine^✉ 08:36, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Julia\^talk 15:29, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

City of Babylon

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Reason: Good quality image, has a free license and a good panoramic image of the reconstructed city of Babylon.
Articles in which this image appears: Babylon, Baghdad
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/Others
Creator: U.S. Navy/Edward G. Martens (Uploader: Petrusbarbygere)

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 06:10, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurry and noisy. Pine^✉ 08:39, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Colour balance or saturation... something is off. --99of9 (talk) 00:19, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above, but also this seems to be the leaning city of Babylon too - most of the verticals aren't...well, vertical... Oh and the soliders all seem to have white halos around them - and I'm sure they aren't all THAT angelic... Shame though as it has the potential to be a great picture... gazhiley 08:14, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above concerns on image quality. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 22:32, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Opposeas above disapprobation. Alborzagros (talk) 13:55, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:39, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

John Skelton

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Reason: Great pic of Skelton playing for ivy league Fordham... well focused, composed and sharp.
Articles in which this image appears: John Skelton (American football)
FP category for this image: link to category from WP:FP that best describes the image (check categories first)
Creator: Mal84

Support as nominator --Brun8 (talk) 18:35, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Nice action shot with good EV. A little noise reduction could help though. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:59, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose parts of the subject's body are out of focus, and the deliberately blurred background gives me a headache. Also, this seems to have some noise problems if you look at the subject's uniform. Pine^✉ 08:42, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Look at the metadata: 1/500 sec, f/2.8 ISO1,000, 400mm focal length. Explains the why of your concerns. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 22:31, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Good EV and DOF. Way too noisy. Per the metadata, if at f/2.8 you need ISO1,000 and 1/500, the lighting was not good to take the shot. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 22:31, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:13, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Babylonia in Hammurabi

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Reason: Good quality image, nice image of the Babylonia in the Hammurabi times.
Articles in which this image appears: Babylon, Babylonia, Eridu, Eshnunna, Hammurabi, Haradum, Isin, Kutha, Lagash, Larsa, List of kings of Babylon, Mashkan-shapir, Nippur, Samsu-iluna, Shaduppum, Shibaniba, Sippar, Sippar-Amnanum, Tell Agrab, Tell Ishchali
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Diagrams, drawings, and maps/Maps
Creator: User:MapMaster

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 05:50, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Question is it significant that "The source code of this SVG is invalid"? Pine^✉ 08:38, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now: seems to be missing a few things (the SVG doesn't have to be valid, though - it's not really an important thing)

The inset map, given that it doesn't include any water in the boxed area, I assume is a modern projection. However that really is a confusing disparity to the viewer and for this reason the modern inset map ought to be labelled as such.
What are the lighter and darker coloured areas? I assume one is control, but I can't see an explanation as to which and what the other is.
Is there a reason for the fuzzy border? It is already going to be assumed that this is approximate, so I don't think it's necessary to give a fuzz which might suggest the area of doubt is merely within that range (unless it is?).
It could do with some sort of indication of date, which is only given in the two arrows.
What are the two arrows?
Why is the key in dark red and not black? Dark red is much harder to read on the yellow background.
Is this the sum of current knowledge of Babylonian cities at the time (are their locations we know about missing)? At the moment it's a broad over-view, which is fine if it's all we have but if we can better that then we should, at least to some extent greater than this.
Rapiqum and Malgium: is it the name of a city whose remains we have found that is unknown, or the location of a city whose name we know?
What is Elam? Is it a geographical area or another civilisation? The answer to that may or may not present an opportunity to clarify that.
The mapping conventions suggest a different town/city indication, for which I don't particularly care, but it would be nice to see the coastline outlined in dark(er) blue as suggested.

I've number these not to magnify their size (because I hope they can be resolved) but so the nominator or others can reply without interjecting into my list. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 13:52, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My comment.

It is just fine that there are no blue lines/water, because those waters are rivers, like the river of Tigris and Euphrates, they are just rivers and cannot be seen on the box anyway.
The darker area where Babylon, Sumer (includes Ur, Uruk, etc.) is placed is the area showing the Babylonian territory upon Hammurabi's ascension in 1792 BC and upon his death in 1750 BC.
I dont know about the fuzzy border.
Those dates are the dating of the territory of Babylon. In 1972 BC, (the area showing the darkest shade) is the territory of Babylon upon Hammurabi's ascension, while the 1750 BC (the area of lighter shade) is the territory of Babylon on Hammurabi's death.
Those arrows indicate the territory of Babylon at a specific time.
If it is black, it is harder for it to read. Red contrast yellow, so it is better than black.
Well, those are the major city-states of Mesopotamia and it includes Babylon.
Rapiqum and Malgium are city-states that are not yet located but are assumed to be located there.
Elam was an ancient civilization centered in the far west and southwest of modern-day Iran.
Yes, for me, it would also be nice to see the coastline outlined in dark blue.

--Mediran ^talk 10:16, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In reply to 1), I find it highly unlikely that the area to the south-east of the main map is a river, it looks like the sea.

Oh, I see that the arrows are the definition of the areas. This is very unclear.

6)That's simply not true. Red on yellow has a poor contrast; black on yellow has the highest possible contrast.

Rapiqum: is there some way that the map could show us that? If not, on the description page. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 14:19, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The sea at the right-most part at the bottom is a part of the Arabian Sea or the Gulf of Oman, I really don't know the name of the sea but it is not the river (Tigris & Euphrates), it is a sea. 6) Yes, as what you said, black and yellow has the highest possible contrast, but for me, the image is does not look good with those colors. --Mediran ^talk 11:36, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:13, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Antarctica Map

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**Original** – Labeled map of Antarctica.

Reason: Good quality image, has a free license, a detailed map of Antarctica, a stunning image of Antarctica.
Articles in which this image appears: Antarctica, Bellingshausen Sea, East Antarctica, Geography of Antarctica, King Haakon VII Sea
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Diagrams, drawings, and maps/Maps
Creator: Landsat Image Mosaic of Antarctica team (User: Rbrausse)

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 04:25, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:09, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Why are only the UK and US research stations are marked on the map? Nick-D (talk) 07:34, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- For me, it is because that UK and US's stations are the notable and important research stations there at Antarctica. Even though there are a lot of research stations existing in Antarctica, some of the other stations are not important and just a temporary stations there mostly only during summer. UK and US's stations are permanent station in Antarctica, as for example, the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station where it is a permanent station at the south and it includes glaciology, geophysics, meteorology, upper atmosphere physics, astronomy, astrophysics, and biomedical studies which is important for the study of the continent. --Mediran ^talk 09:45, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - That's not at all correct: several other nations have important permanent stations, some of which are larger than those shown on the map (as a simple example, Australia's Casey and Davis stations and New Zealand's Scott Base accommodate more people than the British Halley station). I'm shifting to oppose. The image would probably work best with either all the stations, or none of them (I'd suggest removing them all). Nick-D (talk) 10:32, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Colin°^Talk 13:07, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Nick-D. I also find the mixture of languages used off-putting. Why not label everything in English? --Avenue (talk) 01:14, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose US/UK centric geographic bias. JJ Harrison (talk) 05:58, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Please somebody fix the problems noted above - this is on it's way to being a great image. (I'd like to see all research stations marked, but in a smaller and less colourful font). Also the 70 degree marker has the 7 on top of the 0. --99of9 (talk) 23:54, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose great image, but it needs to be worldwide before the EV is there. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 22:33, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:13, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cathedral of Christ the Saviour, Moscow

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Reason: High quality and detailed panorama of a famous cathedral, from an uncommon point of view, adding to the article
Articles in which this image appears: Cathedral of Christ the Saviour
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator: Alvesgaspar (talk)

Support as nominator --Alvesgaspar (talk) 22:14, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I much prefer the angle of the article's current lead image, which is already featured. Pine^✉ 08:45, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support High quality as mentioned, and complementary view to the existing FP for me. - Blieusong (talk) 20:48, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Angle is not good, creating poor depth. Cathedral looks like a cardboard cutout placed on the other side of bridge. There is some EV but not much. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 22:25, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Wingtipvorte^X & Pine... gazhiley 12:27, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The bridge is pretty but not very encyclopedic. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:09, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose we have already a featured picture of this church. Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 19:27, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:14, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

USS Port Royal (CG-73)

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Reason: Large, good quality image of USS Port Royal (CG-73) that is used in multiple articles and lists as an example of a Ticonderoga class cruiser.
Articles in which this image appears: USS Port Royal (CG-73), Ticonderoga class cruiser, United States Navy, United States Navy ships, Equipment of the United States Armed Forces, Equipment of the United States Navy
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Vehicles/Water
Creator: US Navy Photographer's Mate 2nd Class Johnnie R. Robbins

Support as nominator --Pine^✉ 09:52, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support. I like the picture, but the resolution isn't great. ComputerJA (talk) 20:18, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose There's a couple of dust spots in the clouds above the masts. Composition isn't ideal - too much water - a better aspect ratio or viewing angle would have brought out the ship better. --99of9 (talk) 23:47, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose. I'm certainly not opposed to FPs being on the smaller side, but for such a large subject, I'd hope to see a larger resolution, unless there were mitigating factors (the ship has sunk or never docks, for instance). J Milburn (talk) 12:41, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Regretful Oppose The picture isn't in focus, way too soft. Dusty777 17:23, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose there is nothing great about the picture. It should really be a lot sharper and a lot bigger. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 22:16, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per J Milburn et al gazhiley 12:30, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
wholly Oppose Per opposition above. Alborzagros (talk) 13:48, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 17:11, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Scelophysa trimeni

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Reason: Seems to me we haven't had enough macro photography recently, almost no beetles, and pretty much nothing from South Africa. This image clearly shows the major features of the blue monkey beetle, mainly the size and colour of the scales, the feeding habit, and the large prehensile hind claws. The flower this male is feeding on, Arctotis decurrens, is one of the typical food sources for monkey beetles. The quality and resolution are very good.
Articles in which this image appears: Scelophysa trimeni
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
Creator: Julia W

Support as nominator --Julia\^talk 12:34, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Soft and blurry. Numerous distracting elements. Only a bit of the carapace and wing covers visible. Saffron Blaze (talk) 15:54, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure it's neither soft nor blurry. Julia\^talk 17:13, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Let me clarify... the DoF is so narrow that only one of the rear legs is in critical focus. The bottom right is blurry yet it takes up a key part of the visual field, thus distracting. The head of the beetle is completely burried. While interesting behavior it lessens the EV for me. Saffron Blaze (talk) 23:01, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. What a little glutton! I like it, and to hell with the technical jargon! INeverCry 17:58, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support This DOF is good for a macro - it would be hard to go deeper in an action shot given that this is already a 60mm lens in good light. The front petals are the only distracting element for me, but they are almost inevitable in a 3d flower, and are minimized by the composition. Behaviour has as much EV as anatomy, and capturing it well is more difficult. Value is enhanced by the sparcity of images of this subject or its relatives. I enjoyed this photo. --99of9 (talk) 23:43, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support An excellent macro shot. I don't have any issue with the DOF. This beetle is 1cm x 0.5cm and I can see the hairs front and back and all the tiny spots on his body. From the article: "Adult blue monkey beetles are typically found grouped in the centres of unscented flowers that bear dark discs and bright petals with spot patterns at the bases. They feed on the pollen, embedding their heads into the discs and browsing, and sometimes supporting themselves by hooking their hind tarsal claws onto the flower petals" This description exactly matches the photograph both in setting and behaviour seen. It therefore has far higher EV IMO than an isolated bettle specimen, although that would have its own merits. -- Colin°^Talk 07:52, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Tomer T (talk) 10:10, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose. Sorry- a strong photo, but I find the flower a little intrusive. J Milburn (talk) 12:40, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
CommentThe so called "bug bar" is set pretty high and I fail to see how this leaps over it. All I see is a blue blob in the middle of a tortured flower. The supportive reviews read like an apology for acceptance of sub-standard work rather than accolades for wikipedia's finest. Good article though. However, including an image that actually showed the beetle should have been a first priority. 131.137.245.206 (talk) 14:01, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The supportive reviews are responding to the initial negative review, which caused the nominator to get cold feet. This isn't Commons. We're reviewing an article illustration. How many beetle photographs have we got demonstrating this much behaviour? Or indeed, any behaviour. Colin°^Talk 14:44, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I fail to see how the number of such images has any bearing on the criteria it is to be judged. You have just made it sound as if you voted out of pity. Seems rather patronising. 131.137.245.207 (talk) 08:42, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please stick to reviewing the picture and discussing review criteria wrt this picture and drop trying to psychoanalyse the reviewers. You are not only mistaken but the comments are unnecessary. Colin°^Talk 10:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Could you refrain from being hypocritical? You call a review insulting, but get touchy when someone calls yours patronising. And to forestall further diatribes on my talk page I didn't find either assessment very helpful. Saffron Blaze (talk) 20:46, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is a difference. My comments were discussing whether a criterion used by a reviewer (the so-called "bug bar") was a fair measure of this picture. IMO comparing a photograph of a tiny beetle in-the-field with large beautiful butterflies alighting on a flower, or focus-stacked shots of dead wasps, is more than unfair. The IP in contrast was commenting on me as a person. Whether his opinions are fair and accurate isn't important; they have nothing to do with this image or how best to judge it. Colin°^Talk 08:04, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Semantics. If the bug bar is insulting, and I use it, you are for all intents and purposes making a comment on me as a person. I was insulted by the inference. Your use was a deliberate attempt to vilify me as an individual and hence undermine my argument. 131.137.245.206 (talk) 10:51, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you were insulted by my comment, then I apologise. That was not my intention. Colin°^Talk 12:02, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Per Saffron Blaze and Milburn. Flower is too distracting. Dusty777 17:34, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
~~Weak Oppose~~ I was pretty much thinking like Saffron Blaze and anonymous guy (who seems to regular contributor) but also like Colin. Seems to be by a good margin what's wikipedia has best to offer, and little Googling hasn't leaded me to better result. But I'd have loved to see a better shot of the whole beast before seeing the behaviour. And well, the "tortured" flowe, OOF part and overall composition make for a not so attractive picture to me. - Blieusong (talk) 17:55, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not necessarily trying to dissuade, but this is a very small beetle, with an adult lifespan of about a month, endemic to a fairly small region, within an African country that is already enormously under-represented. We'll be waiting a few lifetimes before we get another photo of a monkey beetle, particularly one where it's not devouring pollen head-first (which it does most of the time). It's not like worldwide flies or bees or caterpillars that buzz and crawl around on lots of convenient surfaces. It seems rather petty to me to moan about some out of focus petals (which are obviously yummy ^^). We've made much bigger concessions, plenty of times before. Julia\^talk 18:35, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral You dissuaded me at least. I'd like to add that I'm aware the aesthetic issues are not so valid reasons to oppose here (or at least of less importance), but I was neutral leaning towards oppose because of them. Also, we don't really see the head part, which happens to be what interest us here (edit: OK it's inherent to the shown behaviour). But you probably have mitigating circumstances I'm not aware of, as a very casual macro shooter. - Blieusong (talk) 18:53, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

CommentI think talk of a "bug bar" is rather insulting really. And factually incorrect when one examines the handful of beetle FPs we have, which are of decidedly mixed quality technically and generally extremely boring compositions (e.g, File:Beetle-Bessbug.jpg or File:Darkling beetle.jpg). While this picture doesn't have "cover girl" aesthetics, it is IMO a wonderful illustration. This makes it somewhat unconventional in comparison to all the lovely butterflies but read Wikipedia:Featured picture criteria point 5, read the beetle's article, and think about it. Colin°^Talk 19:13, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Colin, must you always resort to ad hominem attacks and logical fallacies when you don't get your way? The "bug bar" is a term often used here when discussing macro shots of insects and it isn't meant as an insult. I have never seen it used as such. You have picked out 2 images that support your case while disregarding the numerous brilliant macro shots we have of insects. If beetles are under represented that doesn't mean we have to accept sub standard works. Moreover I think we can attribute the article matching so well with the image due to the fact Julia is the author of both (not implying anything other than she provided a good description in the article of the well known behaviour we see in the image). And, just so this is clear I think the article is wonderful and the image useful but not as the lead and certainly not as a featured image. Saffron Blaze (talk) 00:46, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
~~Neutral~~ I would like the entire beetle to be in focus and its head to be visible. I'm not bothered by the flower. I understand the challenged of macro photography enough to know what I ask for is not easily possible. A Question for Julia, do you live in South Africa? And if so, how difficult would it be for you to take another picture. I understand you said a few lifetimes. For now, I'll be neutral. Persuade me either way. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 22:15, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I live in the UK, not ZA. I may go there again, but probably not at the same time of year and perhaps not the same location. It's not exactly an under-visited area because the spring wildflowers are popular with older South Africans, but they're not young, small, athletic, and loopy like I am, so they don't go crawling about in the wildflowers looking for small insects while carrying heavy and expensive camera gear, and even if they did, they wouldn't be uploading them to WP. Internet access isn't as easy to come by there. I have loads of other insect photos from the region but the problem is generally one of identification, which is always a challenge with these under-represented areas, and I have other monkey beetle photos, but they are burying themselves even more deeply in flowers and identification will be almost impossible. This is one of the lucky few. Anyone who follows feedback on the mainpage knows that IPs often moan about the number of insect photos, which are rarely pretty and, if you're not a morphology nut, rather boring. And I maintain, despite the criticisms given here, that this is a more engaging and interesting photo than a lot of other insect pictures that we feature. As for the head, it's pretty typical and pedestrian as far as insect heads go and is hardly a defining feature. I could barely find a single description of it, in all of the research that I did for the article, but plenty was said about the claws, the scales, the behaviour, and how critical they are for pollination. Make of that what you will. :) Julia\^talk 17:19, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the reply. I better understand the EV of the image now, so I will change my vote.--Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:09, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Change vote to Support--Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:09, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I was a little hasty in my previous comment, I didn't really research the beetle very much, nor did I check to see just how many pictures of this genus actually exist. I found that pictures of Scelophysa trimeni available are few, and none are the resolution of the nomination. This makes the EV of this picture considerably higher then I had considered earlier. The EV is excellent IMO. I cannot let the slight technical errors get in the way of the encyclopedic value. Changing my vote to Full Support. Dusty777 02:21, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alborzagros (talk) 08:27, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment If EV in this instance trumps the other criteria I am content. It just seemed to me you were supplanting Valued for Featured and setting precedent in the process. I can see this has upset Julia, but I hardly think I was being petty or moaning. I'll take my leave of any further comment on this particular nomination.131.137.245.206 (talk) 08:52, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Consider it a new bug bar that refers just to bettles, as opposed to macro shots of insects in general. We'll call it the bettle bar. Appropriate given beetles aren't actually bugs. Saffron Blaze (talk) 20:43, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Is this a place to evaluate or a horrible war-place? Better I close my mouth. Jkadavoor (talk) 09:20, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Since I seem unable to make a comment here without someone pointing out my many and varied flaws as a person, and anyone suggests my comments imply your beautiful butterfly pics are easy compared to this beetle, that's not my point at all. I have great respect for anyone who can capture such pictures well. They're just different. We need great pictures of specimens and we need great illustrations of animal behaviour and activities. Colin°^Talk 12:12, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - No; I didn’t consider your comments against me. The endless argument is the only thing that insulted me. And we lost the opportunity to make a good review and to help the contributor in her future attempts. I’m not making any comments here but interesting people (including Julia) can compare this work with the link I provided and learn where and how some improvements possible. Jkadavoor (talk) 14:12, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Mediran ^talk 10:46, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Adding and supporting alt. I hope that this crop will address criticisms mentioned above. Pine^✉ 07:50, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Afraid I don't like the Alt. The balance is wrong and we can no longer see the size of the flower. -- Colin°^Talk 10:45, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Scelophysa trimeni cropped.jpg --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 17:14, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Charles F. Bolden, Jr.

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Reason: This is a good quality portrait of Charles F. Bolden, Jr., who is the present administrator of NASA. He is a retired United States Marine Corps major general, a former NASA astronaut, and a former naval test pilot. He is the first African American to lead NASA on a non-temporary basis.
Articles in which this image appears: Charles F. Bolden, Jr., List of Administrators and Deputy Administrators of NASA, NASA
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political
Creator: NASA/Bill Ingalls

Support as nominator --Pine^✉ 08:55, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support High quality and high EV. As to the caption, the African-American bit, that may be a good trivia fact for the article, and I understand it being interesting. But the world will never stop being racist so long as it matters that he was the first member of a specific race to do something. It doesn't. I think it has been already proven that members of any race can do any and everything all other races can. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 22:22, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support good quality and EV. Tomer T (talk) 07:15, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Tomer T. Alborzagros (talk) 08:27, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Good quality and a nice smile (too many BLPs have these crappy snears and sad faces). 19:29, 19 September 2012 (UTC) This comment was made by Bearian who apparently forgot to sign. Pine^✉ 19:45, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Per nom. Dusty777 16:34, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Surely Support Possessing outstanding quality.Alborzagros (talk) 13:52, 23 September 2012 (UTC) Thank you for your enthusiasm but you already voted once. :) Pine^✉ 07:33, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:06, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Charles F. Bolden, Jr.jpg --Theo polisme 21:24, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Potter

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Reason: Great picture, good quality, high EV
Articles in which this image appears: Pottery
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Traditional
Creator: Yann

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 09:33, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- And Support alt. Tomer T (talk) 21:46, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Looks good. Dusty777 17:36, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
~~Weak Support~~ per nom. Picture has no 'wow' factor and is a little soft. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:45, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Alt much better EV than the first. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:06, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak Oppose~~ Could just be a dirty-handed man crouching next to some pre-baked pots... For better EV it would be better showing him actually making the pots... And if he is not the focus of this picture, then he should be cropped out as it is him that draws my eye at first glance due to his odd crouching position... gazhiley 12:34, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Added an alternative. Tomer T (talk) 18:13, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - In which case I change my vote now to full Support alt as much better EV and picture appears to meet standards required... gazhiley 09:30, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support alt much improved EV. Pine^✉ 08:52, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
CommnetAlt is indeed better in many regards. Too bad it does not have the same WB or lighting as the first. The warmer skin tones and whiter shirt are more pleasing. 131.137.245.206 (talk) 11:06, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alt. Saffron Blaze (talk) 12:11, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note detecting a trend significantly favoring the alt, I've replace the main image with the alt in the pottery article. Pine^✉
Support Alt Better EV. Dusty777 22:00, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alt but I still raise the same complaint about the overhead angle of view as in Commons FPC. I think it is better to lover the camera position inline with the man's eye level and still able to cover all the pots and other things behind by maintain a bit more subject distance. The other image from the same user is also worth to consider because it is a traditional family business. Jkadavoor (talk) 05:16, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support alt; I like the one with his wife also. Chick Bowen 16:02, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Potter at work, Jaura, India.jpg --Jujutacular (talk) 14:11, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Arctic wolf

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Reason: High quality, superb resolution, good EV
Articles in which this image appears: Arctic wolf
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Mammals
Creator: Cephas

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 09:57, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support Could be a tad bit sharper... --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 22:34, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose agree with Wingtipvortex that this could be sharper. I think that we can do better. Pine^✉ 07:34, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Jujutacular (talk) 14:17, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Electric locomotive ChS4

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Reason: Featured on Commons, good EV, used in other national Wiki. Rare type of locomotive now, replaced with later modifications. This locomotive (#072) not used since July 2011. Since March 29 2012 is an exhibit of the Kiev museum of railway transport. This photo shows one of its last actions.
Articles in which this image appears: ChS4
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Vehicles/Land
Creator: George Chernilevsky

Support as nominator --George Chernilevsky ^talk 17:10, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose Image is of great quality, but I'd like to see a bit more EV before I support it. Currently, the article is basically a gallery with two sentences.--Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:37, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support we have FPs of many bird species and I think we should be similarly accepting of FPs of many types of cars and locomotives. However I agree with Wingtipvorte that the EV would be clearer if the article was longer and better sourced. Pine^✉ 04:58, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:04, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Moon

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 26 Sep 2012 at 17:47:42 (UTC)

Reason: High EV, good picture, excellent resolution.
Articles in which this image appears: Moon, Full moon, List of Solar System objects by size, 2010 in science.
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Space/Looking out
Creator: Gregory H. Revera

Support as nominator --Dusty777 17:47, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 21:35, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Alborzagros (talk) 08:26, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per all gazhiley 12:36, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support while not perfect, it's pretty impressive. We can do a D&R later if we get something better. Pine^✉ 08:54, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I almost didn't nominate it, since it isn't really the greatest picture, but I figured a better one will come available then we can do a D&R. Dusty777 19:50, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support --Mediran ^talk 10:44, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Wow. Bearian (talk) 19:26, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
What about File:Full Moon Luc Viatour.jpg? I am not ordinarily opposed to two FPs on the same subject but in this case they are quite similar. Chick Bowen 00:31, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Per supporters. Alborzagros (talk) 13:47, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Practically identical to an image which is already featured. Why do we keep doing this? J Milburn (talk) 17:31, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Luc Viatour's image is noticeably smaller and has less details than this one. Perhaps a D&R is warranted. Brandmeister^talk 20:33, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps, but if this passes, our toothless delist process would no doubt fail to delist the other, meaning we'd be stuck indefinitely with two near-identical images. What's the point of that? J Milburn (talk) 22:18, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to Chick Bowen for unearthing that old FP... I browsed through the FP section, but failed to find that one (my fault.) That FP appears to have a lower technical quality... I can start replacing the current FP with this nominated picture in all articles in which the current FP appears, then start a delist nomination. I don't think the FP community will leave us stuck with two FP's of the Moon if one can no longer contribute EV. Dusty777 02:24, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I understand Milburn's frustration with the delist process, which, frankly, just hasn't worked recently for whatever reason. In this case I'd hope it would be clear enough. I will leave off a vote on this for now, and ask somebody to ping me when the delist is started, which ought to follow immediately assuming this is promoted. (If this is not promoted, you can of course start a delist and replace nomination whenever you choose.) Chick Bowen 15:56, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I will get the delist nomination started immediately. I'm also starting to replace the current FP with the nominated picture. Thanks for getting back. Dusty777 16:56, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To all interested parties, delist nomination for current FP is underway. Dusty777 20:59, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Jkadavoor (talk) 06:04, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:FullMoon2010.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:08, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Eureka Tower

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Reason: Large size, crisp image. Has high EV showing one of the tallest buildings in Australia and residential buildings in the world. Featured on German Wikipedia.
Articles in which this image appears: Eureka Tower, List of tallest residential buildings in the world, Grocon
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator: Diliff

Support as nominator --Chris857 (talk) 02:30, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support I had thought about nominating this previously but I forgot about it. Pine^✉ 04:11, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alborzagros (talk) 08:25, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom... Quick Question however - what are the golden flies/wasps near the base for? Is that a permanant feature or a temporary art installation? gazhiley 08:42, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't find anything that explicitly said, but "Queen Bee @ Eureka Tower" states that "Katsalidis and Stringer had discussed the idea of making a permanent installation on various building projects over the years and the image of a Queen Bee and colony had a obvious conceptual compatibility to the context of this gigantic residential tower." That makes me think it is permanent (and it is still there in a 2010 Google streetview image). {{commons:template:FoP-Australia}} says that permanent sculpture is FoP. Should a mention be added to the description page? Chris857 (talk) 16:30, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's de minimis anyway- nothing to worry about from a copyright perspective. J Milburn (talk) 19:45, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I don't have any concerns about copyright Mr Milburn - but I agree with Chris that something should be added to the description or even the actual page itself as there is nothing to explain it. It's too distinctive a feature in my opinion to be ignored, and if Chris is correct that it's a permanant thing then would be nice to be mentioned. Thank you Chris857 for your detective work! gazhiley 08:42, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Proper execution as far as I can tell. Good point of view, sharp, nice (presumed) stitching. Wish all my panorama have this many vertical guidelines ;) - Blieusong (talk) 17:39, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the whole panorama. File:Melbourne Skyline from Rialto Crop - Nov 2008.jpg. Chris857 (talk) 01:39, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this link - surprise surprise another FP by Dillif... Anyone would think he's good at this photography malarky....... gazhiley 08:59, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, he puts all of us WP photographers to shame... --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:04, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, nice panorama.--Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:04, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Pretty good. Dusty777 17:44, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Mediran ^talk 10:45, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.--Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:04, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Per supporters above. Alborzagros (talk) 13:46, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Tomer T (talk) 14:21, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Eureka Tower, Melbourne - Nov 2008.jpg --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 07:44, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wulfenite

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Reason: High quality, Member of quality images, Good framing and encyclopedic.
Articles in which this image appears: Wulfenite
FP category for this image
Creator: Didier Descouens

Support as nominator --Alborzagros (talk) 07:35, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Jkadavoor (talk) 09:15, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Looks pretty edible :) Brandmeister^talk 10:20, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Saffron Blaze (talk) 12:13, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support as creator (I do not know if I can vote) Partial stack of 3 images for the two crystal sharp and a foreground and background blurred.--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 12:47, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, you can. At least, it is not written anywhere that you can't :) --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:00, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for now because the image hasn't been in the article for the required length of time. However, it is a much larger photo than the previous lead image so I've made it the lead image now. I suggest re-nominating this after the time requirement has been fulfilled. Pine^✉ 19:55, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To me, this falls under the 'obvious cases' in Criteria 5 by which a much better image may become FP even if it has not been in article for 7 days. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:00, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am cautious because I believe that we have had cases here at FPC where the true identities of the subjects of a photo were doubtful or disputed such as questions about which exact species of plant appeared in a photo. Letting the photo remain in the article for a week before nominating it for FP adds to the likelihood that knowledgeable individuals about the photo's subject have viewed the photo and agree with the identification. Pine^✉ 08:56, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Very unlikely to be an issue given who the contibutor is. Saffron Blaze (talk) 12:12, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Excellent detail. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:00, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(Comment) Specimens from this mine are well known. They are usually bright and stocky like caramels. The piece presented is very special, because the edges are slightly curved and they are thinner to see the light. They are very typical, the mere sight lets say that it is a wulfenite from Erupción Mine just before the Second World War. This piece was part of the old collections of the “Ecole des Mines de Paris”. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 14:05, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Wulfenite mexique.jpg --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 07:49, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Vigneoble du Dezaley

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Reason: It is a nice picture
Articles in which this image appears: Lavaux
FP category for this image: Places (Panorama)
Creator: SSZ

Support as nominator --SSZ (talk) 18:45, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose this is well below the minimum FP size of 1500 pixels vertically, and the image is noisy. Pine^✉ 20:29, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Needs to be more than just a "nice" picture sorry. No focus, weird effects on the see (too rigid lines to be waves), and as per Pine too small vertically... Can easily be retaken with a better camera... gazhiley 08:16, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above. No EV. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 15:13, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Not to pile on, but the picture is not in the listed article, and it doesn't appear it ever was in the article. SSZ, I suggest that you withdraw the nomination, it's not going to pass. Dusty777 16:43, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest Speedy Close as image is not in article. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 02:47, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 08:06, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Corazon Aquino

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Reason: Has a free license, good quality image, has good resolution
Articles in which this image appears: Corazon Aquino, Covert United States foreign regime change actions, Foreign policy of the Ronald Reagan administration, History of the Philippines (1986–present), Presidency of Corazon Aquino, Women in the Philippines
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political
Creator: US Department of Defense/Roger Dutcher

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 14:01, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose disturbing blurry area on the left bottom corner, and quite noisy. Tomer T (talk) 15:28, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Some cropping on the left and bottom may help, but then the edge would be very close to her arm, and the seal would be cut in half. Sorry, I don't think this is FP-material due to the framing. J Milburn (talk) 23:31, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per User:J Milburn Alborzagros (talk) 13:17, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose way too noisy. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 19:45, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 08:11, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Windmill in Kuremaa

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Reason: This image is the sole photo in the article Kuremaa, Estonia where this image has been used since September 5. In my opinion it is a much better photo of a windmill than the previous lead image in the windmill article, so I just made it the lead image there as well. This image is already featured on Commons.
Articles in which this image appears: Kuremaa, Windmill
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Others
Creator: Ivar Leidus, User:Iifar on Wikimedia Commons

Support as nominator --Pine^✉ 08:31, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Bearian (talk) 19:25, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Great image. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 19:55, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support but it is difficult to find the best windmill picture because even this user has contributed so many good windmill pictures including this. But this is the best picture of Kuremaa manor windmill. Jkadavoor (talk) 05:30, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~ Image quality is great. Color saturation is fine for me. Encyclopedic value is quite weak at Kuremaa, which is a one-sentence article. I'm hesitant to support it merely on its placement at Windmill, the image you replaced had a composition much more focused on the windmill. I would wait to see that it stays there, or if the Kuremaa article can be expanded I would support. Jujutacular (talk) 21:20, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support per Julia's expansion of the Kuremaa article. Jujutacular (talk) 12:31, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
abstention High quality but not enough EV. Alborzagros (talk) 13:45, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I'm not seeing a great amount of EV here, and that has to be the most important issue. J Milburn (talk) 17:30, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Although attractive and a good quality picture, the windmill's EV is quite limited in the Kuremaa article, which I am working on expanding. Julia\^talk 21:09, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Kuremaa mõisa tuuleveski.jpg --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 22:39, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Final tally: 5/2/1 King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 22:39, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Taagepera Castle

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Reason: Very good quality, resolution and EV
Articles in which this image appears: Taagepera Castle
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator: Iifar

Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 17:52, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support very good. Pine^✉ 19:43, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 19:53, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Nice angle. User:Earth8845 11:08, 21 September 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.19.195.242 (talk) [reply]
Please log in to vote. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:12, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose Image quality is great, lighting is very nice. The composition leaves something to be desired however. It seems there should be more room at the bottom and sides to provide focus to the viewer. Jujutacular (talk) 21:11, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Absolutely gorgeous. The framing isn't perfect, as per Juju, but the lighting and subject matter are fantastic, so I don't mind overlooking that. J Milburn (talk) 23:35, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per all above Mediran ^talk 02:09, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per all above Alborzagros (talk) 12:08, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
comment Just want to add some image background info. Images were taken after a wedding party in the castle. This angle with early morning light can be catched only in june-july. Crop is a bit tight at right, because I had to crop out close-standing building part. Regards, --Iifar (talk) 17:50, 27 September 2012 (UTC).[reply]

Promoted File:Taagepera mõisa peahoone2.jpg --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 22:49, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hook echo

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**Original** – A Doppler on wheels image of a tornadic thunderstorm near La Grange, Wyoming (USA) captured during the VORTEX2 project. In the velocity image on the left, Blues/green represent winds moving towards the radar, and reds/yellows indicate winds moving away from the radar. The reason that some of the darker blues contain red/yellow within them is a trait known as Aliasing, where the winds are moving faster than the radar can detect. In the reflectivity image on the right, the main body of the storm can be seen, with the appendage on the bottom of the storm being a hook echo, which is associated directly with the tornado, and the tornado circulation itself can be seen as the doughnut like shape in the later part of the animation.

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Reason: This is a high resolution Doppler on Wheels radar animation of a tornado producing severe thunderstorm. It is by far Wikipedia's best and most educational depiction of a hook echo, thus adding significant EV to the article.
Articles in which this image appears: Hook echo
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences
Creator: Josh Wurman/Center for Severe Weather Research

Support as nominator --Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 06:04, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I don't know anything about the subject - is the left half of the image useful in understanding the hook echo? Other than that it looks good (I didn't read where you said "animation" at first though!) and I could well believe we don't have better given the provenance and technical difficulty, etc. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 17:16, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, the left half does help to understand, at least in my view. In the velocity image where the winds blowing towards the radar are right next to the winds blowing away it indicates rotation...it's somewhat complicated to explain, but basically is like explained at Tornado vortex signature#Display. Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 22:02, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Too knotty and mixed up view. Alborzagros (talk) 13:41, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Can you please explain "knotty and mixed up view"? Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 22:03, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Is the thumbnail supposed to move? It's sitting awfully still for me and the full resolution takes forever to load. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:41, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- So far as I know the thumbnail does not move since the file is so large; you have to load the full resolution. Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 22:02, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Be better if it was converted into a movie so that it would play in-line of the page... Added. — raeky t 22:55, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:07, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mall of Asia

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Reason: Has a free license, good quality image, has an encyclopedic value.
Articles in which this image appears: Bay City, Metro Manila, List of shopping malls in the Philippines, Metro Manila, Pasay, SM Mall of Asia, Shopping mall
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Panorama
Creator: TheCoffee

Support as nominator --Mediran ^talk 12:34, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Not too bad. The EV is good in most of the listed articles, picture doesn't have any major technical defects (that I can see.) Looks good. Dusty777 17:04, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose Left of center, there is a pink bus that was driving and is missing its rear end. Chris857 (talk) 17:33, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Stitching error on the bus, the lighting is also a bit harsh. Jujutacular (talk) 21:08, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose superfluous and needless things. (e.g. buses) Alborzagros (talk) 13:37, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't you think that a picture should illustrate how things really are? Aren't buses likely to be part of the normal operation of the mall? I'm playing devil's advocate, as I do oppose the nom. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 19:56, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Chris857 and because objects on the far left aren't sharp. Pine^✉ 05:18, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Reluctant Oppose Oops.. I always error on panoramas. Dusty777 16:47, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Pine. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 19:56, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted —Julia\^talk 17:15, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]