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What MySQL Can Learn From PostgreSQL

This document discusses differences between the MySQL and PostgreSQL open source database communities and software. It notes that PostgreSQL has a more active advocacy community with numerous user conferences, while MySQL lacks this. PostgreSQL also has more active local user groups around the world. Both projects benefit from "co-opetition" between companies supporting them, but PostgreSQL may have more resources split between companies. The document also discusses differences in how quickly each project adds new features and releases updates.

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What MySQL Can Learn From PostgreSQL

This document discusses differences between the MySQL and PostgreSQL open source database communities and software. It notes that PostgreSQL has a more active advocacy community with numerous user conferences, while MySQL lacks this. PostgreSQL also has more active local user groups around the world. Both projects benefit from "co-opetition" between companies supporting them, but PostgreSQL may have more resources split between companies. The document also discusses differences in how quickly each project adds new features and releases updates.

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What MySQL can learn from PostgreSQL

(and some vice versa)


The PostgreSQL Company

Joshua D. Drake
Before we get started...
● Who am I?
– Major contributor to PostgreSQL.Org
● PostgreSQL SPI Liaison (basically Treasurer)
● Fund raising contact (jdrake@postgresql.org)
– Lead consultant Command Prompt, Inc.
● All kinds of fun database stuff
– President and Director U.S. PostgreSQL Association
● www.postgresql.us
– Retiring (SPI Director)
– Know throughout community as JD or Linuxpoet
What this talk is not

This is a discussion about open source


community and software, not product.
What's the same?
● Let's not twiddle with the obvious
– MySQL and PostgreSQL both:
● Have large communities
● Have large feature sets
● Are SQL based
● Have Good users
● Have Bad users
● Have Arrogant asses
● Have Super geeks
What's different?
Lots of stuff... Let's start with something simple

No, this was not the MySQL booth at OSCON 2007 but it may as well have been.
Sea of blue, army of smurfs!
PostgreSQL Booth, OSCON 2007
Advocacy Efforts
● MySQL AB (now Sun) does not advocate. They
promote, they sell.
● Does the MySQL community advocate?
PostgreSQL Advocates!
● In the first quarter of 2008 there are already 7 planned
PostgreSQL community conferences
– East – Maryland (done)
– PG UK 2008 (done)
– PDXPUG Day @ OSCON
– LWEPG Day @ LinuxWorld
– West – Portland
– PGDay.IT – Italy
– PGCon EU – TBA
MySQL User Conferences?

None...

(We are at a MySQL AB conference)


What makes a community?
● Members/Users
● Review of other communities (versus MySQL)
– Ubuntu:
● The most popular Linux distribution in only 4 years
– Driven by rabid, friendly fans
– PostgreSQL:
● Highly active in all areas
– Driven by all walks of technical life. Engineers, hackers,
consultants, user end developers, advocacy folks who all work
toward technical excellence in their DB.
Community part two
● User groups
– PostgreSQL has user groups all around the world
● Regional Groups (PGUS, PGEU)
● City Groups (LA, PDX, SFPUG)
● Country Groups (Italy, France, Brazil, Japan)
– PostgreSQL User groups are autonomous
Co-opetition
● What is Co-Opetition?
– Competition
● The community thrives because companies compete
– Cooperation
● The community thrives because companies who are
competing, also cooperate.
Co-opetition part two
● Only successful with companies understand
Open Source
– PostgreSQL is a meritocracy
● Contributors gain influence through their merits
● Companies can earn influence through the sponsorship
(or employment) of contributors
– Only works with there is more than one company
● Must not be in direct competition
Competition and community
● Recognizing the value of the community
– The community is the real stock holder in Open
Source
– To be truly successful as an open source project
(with commercial participation) the commercial
participation must be a servant to the community
Leveraging Co-opetition
● Truly successful communities have multiple
entities creating the software
● Linux
– Redhat, SUSE, Canonical, TurboLinux, Xandros
● PostgreSQL
– Command Prompt, EDB, Fujitsu, NTT, Sun, Truviso
● MySQL
– MySQL AB
● Without diversification, project suffers
Downside to Co-opetition
● MySQL has mostly (all?) Open Source product
so the community benefits from all resources
● PostgreSQL has resources redirected in lots of
directions. Many closed source and not a
benefit to the community.
● Competition can sometimes forget the
cooperation directive.
The feature game part two
● Because of the MySQL model, new features
appear but quality suffers
● PostgreSQL takes a more stable development
approach but doesn't practice the release early,
release often
– (PostgreSQL still releases on average 3x faster
than closed source databases)
The feature game part three
● PostgreSQL tends to be ultra conservative and
focused in their development
● MySQL will deliver features before they are
ready (stored procedures) and fix them in
stable tree during development of next release.
The Right Way
● Depends on goals
– If the goal is customers
● MySQL is the 'World's Most Popular Open Source
Database'
● Microsoft has the 'World Most Popular Operating System'
– If the goal is community
● PostgreSQL provides a technically superior (for most
workloads), highly scalable, business and open source
friendly database
The feature game
● MySQL adds micro features more quickly to
PostgreSQL due to its willingness to add
features to stable releases
● PostgreSQL adds features only in major
releases causing 12-14 month breaks between
feature sets

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