The Cube
The Cube
From: Entropi19@my-deja.com (Entropi) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Gimmick: The Cube (was Re: More like "4 questions" game?) Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 20:09:12 GMT
>Entropi, > >This is an excellent post, I have ordered the book, but it >will take 8 weeks to get here, I want to try it before then so >in the meantime, I dont really understand it completely.. what >do you say about the horse, flowers..etc.. can you go into a more >detailed interpretation of how to read each item that the chick >is to imagine (location, size, color..whatever).. its just not yet >clear to me how to make this game work. > >if you could post more details about it, that would be awesome, at >least enough so that I can try to get the game to work at at least >a basic level for all the items with a chick. >
Hi, Maniac. I have attached below many examples of the interpretations I came up with, including some real examples. They may be different from what the books will say, but should serve our purposes allright. I hope they are sufficiently explanatory as far as giving an idea of how to interpret the woman's imagined pictures in th exercise. They are attached to this message so that anyone interested in saving them doesn't have to save multiple messages.
By the way thanks for the excellent material you have posted recently, as well as your website. Your site has greatly contributed to my liberation from bondage in AFC-land.
Cheers, E.
>In article <3a03a8bf.575614652@news.bu.edu>, > Entropi19@my-deja.com (Entropi) wrote: >> On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 17:23:13 GMT, book_guy@yahoo.com (Book Guy) wrote: >> >> >More games material: >> >
>> >check out the "Cube." It's a mind-game like these 4-questions to >> >get to know yourself. Annie Gottlieb, _Secrets of the Cube: the >> >ancient visualization game that blah blah _ >> > >> >Imagine you're in a desert, imagine you see a cube, imagine >> >there's a ladder. Etc. >> > >> >If anyone has a copy of this, could he please post a brief >> >summary of all the points? >> >> I've run the Cube on several women, and it's never failed to amaze >> them. Usually it gives a good approximate idea of the person. Very >> efficient. Very much fun too. >> >> After prepping her ("are you sure you want this? you might learn >> things about yourself you never knew...") here is how I run it. The >> questions should not be very sprcific-- she should imagine all the >> details. (WARNING: If you plan to run the Cube on yourself, either DO >> IT NOW or don;t read any further!!! Once you know the details, you >> might not be able to use it on yourself.) >> >> "Okay Debbie, I am gonna give you a simple picture, with just three >> things in it: the sky, the horizon, and the desert, and I'll ask you >> to fill in a few things in this landscape. Use your imagination in >> fixing any and all the details. Use a pencil and paper if you think >> that'll help."
>> >> "In the desert, imagine a cube. What does it look like? What is it >> made of? Where is it located? What state is it in?" >> >> "Now imagine a ladder. What is it made of? How big is it? How many >> rungs? Where is it located in relation to the the cube?" >> >> "Imagine some flowers. How many are they? What kind? Where are they >> located in relation to the cube and the ladder?" >> >> "And now imagine a horse. What kind of horse is it? What color? What >> size? What is it doing? Where in the scenery is it located, in >> relation to the earlier three things?" >> >> "And finally, there's a storm in this landscape. Where is it in >> relation to the other things inthe scenery? Which way is it >> proceeding? What kind of storm is it?" >> >> INTERPRETATION: >> >> The Cube: represents the woman's conception of herself. >> The Ladder: ...friends (and family in some cases). >> The Flowers: ...Children >> The Horse: ...Her lover >> The Storm: ...Troubles in life. >>
>> It is usually easy to interpret the details. For example, a cube >> resting nicely on the sand and of neither too tiny nor too huge size >> shows a person with a good sense of proportion about their place in >> the world. A huge cube => egomaniac. A tiny cube => feels >> insignificant; low self-worth. A buried cube => overwhelmed. >> >> Etc. >> >> The book is a quick read and you may be able to read up most of the >> crucial details in the bookstore itself. The gist of the book is as >> above.
NOTE: Ask the questions in the proper order (Cube, ladder, flowers, horse, storm - in that order); interpret the picture in the same order, and only AFTER she has imagined the entire picture (all five pieces mentioned above). Heck, you might even hold on to some of it to ensure a followup encounter. ("I need to think more about some of the features of your horse. Will let you know when I have an interpretation that I feel makes sense."). Some here on ASF may disagree with some of the interpretations, but that's okay; I think if an interpretation makes sense to me, it is probably correct.
There are two components to the interpretation of each of the five pieces: the piece in itself, and its relation to the other pieces as well as the overall picture. The sizes and positions of various things are RELATIVE to one another and to the overall scene of the desert. Moreover, the interpretations are not according to some rigid law, they are just ways to make sense out of the woman's imagined picture, but that is the best part because as far as we are concerned here in ASF, that flexibility allows us to interpret things in a way that helps the seduction (a negative interpretation is a neg-hit! You can include small negative inperpretations whenever necessary, while generally giving a reasonably sensible interpretation overall).
1. THE CUBE:
Represents the woman's conception of herself. A huge cube covering most of the scenery (Field of View or FOV) means she's got an inflated ego, a sense of high self-importance. Other features of the cube could mean:
Tiny cube => feels small, insignificant, ignored, modest Cube resting on the ground => generally has a firm foothold on reality Cube far away in the distance => Feels left behind by life Cube flying in the air or levitated => daydreamer, imaginative but unrealistic Cube partly above the horizon line => ambitious Cube below the horizon => not very ambitious
Cube resting on its edge => metastable life, perhaps? Cube made of solid material => good sense of self-worth, well-grounded personality Cube made of gold => Thinks of herself as extremely precious Cube made of glass or transparent cube => Considers herself pure Cube full of slimy stuff => Hates herself completely Cube hollow inside => feels hollow, unfulfilled in the extreme [interesting example: one woman know very well imagined the Rubic's cube, being twisted and turned by a child. I was not surprised because she has a sever persecution complex and total paranoia, considers everyone else stupid and childish (has a holier-than-thou mentality), feels attacked by the world, and is an emotional basketcase]
2. THE LADDER:
Represents her close social support structure (friends; family in some cases). Long ladder with many rungs => big social circle, has many friends, outgoing personality, sociable Ladder made of some odd material => feels her friends are weird, very different from normal people Ladder with few rungs => has few close friends Ladder in a less than good condition => believes people around her are fucked up Ladder far away from the cube => Does not let people get too close to herself; keeps aloof, has a hard shell around herself
Ladder leaning against cube => Feels she does a lot of things for her friends, supports them more than they support her, feels she has some codependent people around her Ladder on top of cube => Feels her friends/family are overbearing, feels oppressed by them Ladder much bigger than cube => feels small in her social circle\ Ladder supporting cube (like, ladder under the cube) => feels her close associates support her in her accomplishments Strong ladder => is surrounded by strong people, feels secure in them Burned up ladder => Feels surrounded by totally fucked up people who are ruining themselves
3. THE FLOWERS:
Number of flowers => children she has or wants to have, or has/wants to have around (See * below) Flowers close to cube => Feels very close to the children she has or will have Flowers far away => Does not want children Flowers blooming well => Feels positive about her children's lives Flowers messed up => is surrounded by screwed up children * Lots of flowers everywhere => Probably works with children, or would like to; (One chick I know had this; she is a grade school teacher) Flowers shaking in the wind => feels children in her life have
hardships Flowers all around/over the cube => Feels overwhelmed by kids Flowers separated from cube by the ladder => feels her friends/family (do/will/might) interfere in her relationship with her children Beautiful flowers (roses, poppy etc) => Finds children very beautiful
4. THE HORSE:
Represents her thoughts about her lover (or the lover she thinks she wants or will have).
Strong, large horse => Wants a protective, strong man Color of horse => Possibly the race of the lover she wants (the teacher chick mentioned above has a "latin thing" - her horse was brown) Horse close to the cube => Wants the lover to be very close to her emotionally and physically Horse well separated from cube => Is reserved about opening up completely to lovers Horse licking/sniffing the cube => Imagines/wishes she's being doted on Small, submissive horse => Wants a lover she can dominate Wild horse => wants a guy who is not tamed and will not be tamed Tethered horse => Wants to keep him very restrained/restricted Horse stomping on the cube => Has been or feels extremely abused by lovers
Horse destroying the flowers => Feels the lover will not be good towards her children (single moms probably have this thing more often) Horse messing with the ladder => Conflict between her lover and her friends Horse far away or walking away => Feels abandoned Horse separated from flowers by the cube => feels she will have to take care of the children and manage her lover's relationship with them Weak horse => envisions being (stuck?) with a wimp [example: one chick I know had a horse running around in a confined arena. She is a controlling, limit-setting type chick who likes to watch her man react to her experiments with his emotions/behavior.]
5. THE STORM:
Storm in the distance => Troubles are not overwhelming her presently Storm approaching => Fears crises in future Storm receding => Has had troubles recently but feels they are over Huge, dominant storm => Feels her life is in deep shit Storm in the distance, passing away affecting none of the other four things in the scenery => Feels her life is relatively trouble-free, has few problems around in her life. Small storm => Feels secure about problems she will face