Wikidata:Property proposal/Geneanet URL(s)

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Geneanet URL(s)

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Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Person

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Descriptionpage(s) about this person on Geneanet
RepresentsGeneanet (Q3100478)
Data typeURL
Domainhuman (Q5)
Example 1Henry de Lesquen (Q3133201) →
Example 2Arthur Ladonne (Q91936087) → https://gw.geneanet.org/amta?lang=en&pz=anne+marie+therese&nz=lanore&p=justin+arthur&n=ladonne
Example 3Eva Joly (Q464116) → https://gw.geneanet.org/wikifrat?lang=fr&n=farseth&oc=0&p=eva
See also
  • GeneaStar person ID (P8094): identifier of a person in the GeneaStar genealogical database

    • Geneanet is one of the most popular French-speaking genealogical websites; hence

    VIGNERON
    Ayack
    Ash Crow
    Tubezlob
    PAC2
    Thierry Caro
    Pymouss
    Alphos
    GAllegre
    Jean-Frédéric
    Manu1400
    Marianne Casamance
    Nattes à chat
    Pierre André
    Bouzinac
    Jsamwrites
    Baidax
    LearnKnowGive1
    Mathieu Kappler
    Daieuxetdailleurs
    Archives nationales DJI
    Jmax
    LearnKnowGive1
    Koxinga
    Maxime
    Framawiki
    Legonin
    Rémi sim

    Notified participants of WikiProject France. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 08:52, 29 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]

    Discussion

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    •  Comment not opposed but not convinced yet. We already have GeneaStar person ID (P8094) (a sub-base of Geneanet for known people, this property is largely unused by the way), do we really need this property? And is this really an identifier? The url looks more like search results. Finally, is Geneanet really a "worthy" and serious source? Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 09:12, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      Hello VIGNERON. Indeed we've Geneastar; but I think it may be useful having a broader database too (for less-known but nevertheless notable people, e. g.).
      We also have properties with URL datatypes, that doesn't strictly correspond to an "identifier": just think to Academia.edu profile URL (P5715) (@Thierry Caro: who initiated it).
      Regarding reliability, I would say that it depends on the genealogist's rigour (for instance Christophe de Montvallon, owner "Wikifrat", always cites his sources). But no more, and no less, than GeneaStar person ID (P8094), WikiTree person ID (P2949), Roglo person ID (P7929) (and so on).
      Nomen ad hoc (talk) 09:57, 29 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]
    •  Comment I agree with Vingeron ; particularly, the url examples are not identifiers, but queries. I don't think this is stable enough to fill a property. Plus, two other questions : 1. Is it normal to have several entries (de Lesquen example)? 2. On which "instance of" (P31) items this property should apply ? only human beings or also families, family names, etc.? GAllegre (talk) 09:27, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      Hi GAllegre, see above for VIGNERON's comments.
      Even if their scheme is quite unusual, URLs seem perennial.
      Yes it is, given that there is one entry per family tree. And this person is present on several ones.
      Lastly, this applies only to individuals (as far as I know).
      Nomen ad hoc (talk) 09:57, 29 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]
      Thanks for your answer, but for Academia.edu profile URL (P5715), even if it's an URL, it seems more a permanent one than a query like your examples with Geneanet. On my second question, I assume you want to apply this property strictly on persons. I'm not used to Geneanet, but I think a bit difficult to use it if there's no identifier strictly speaking, and particularly no single entry for a given person. GAllegre (talk) 10:12, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    ChristianKl (talk) 15:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC) Melderick (talk) 12:22, 25 July 2017 (UTC) Richard Arthur Norton Jklamo (talk) 20:21, 14 October 2017 (UTC) Sam Wilson Gap9551 (talk) 18:41, 5 November 2017 (UTC) Jrm03063 (talk) 15:46, 22 May 2018 (UTC) Egbe Eugene (talk) Eugene233 (talk) 03:40, 19 June 2018 (UTC) Dcflyer (talk) 07:45, 9 September 2018 (UTC) Gamaliel (talk) 13:01, 12 July 2019 (UTC) Pablo Busatto (talk) 11:51, 24 August 2019 (UTC) Theklan (talk) 19:25, 20 December 2019 (UTC) SM5POR (talk) 20:17, 29 May 2020 (UTC) Pmt (talk) 23:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC) CarlJohanSveningsson (talk) 12:13, 30 July 2020 (UTC) Ayack (talk) 14:39, 12 October 2020 (UTC) EthanRobertLee (talk) 19:17, 20 December 2020 (UTC) -- Darwin Ahoy! 18:20, 25 December 2020 (UTC) Germartin1 (talk) 03:13, 30 December 2020 (UTC) Skim (talk) 00:13, 10 January 2021 (UTC) El Dubs (talk) 21:55, 29 April 2021 (UTC) CAFLibrarian (talk) 16:36, 30 September 2021 (UTC) Jheald (talk) 18:50, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    Notified participants of WikiProject Genealogy. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 09:42, 10 May 2020 (UTC).[reply]

    ChristianKl (talk) 15:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC) Melderick (talk) 12:22, 25 July 2017 (UTC) Richard Arthur Norton Jklamo (talk) 20:21, 14 October 2017 (UTC) Sam Wilson Gap9551 (talk) 18:41, 5 November 2017 (UTC) Jrm03063 (talk) 15:46, 22 May 2018 (UTC) Egbe Eugene (talk) Eugene233 (talk) 03:40, 19 June 2018 (UTC) Dcflyer (talk) 07:45, 9 September 2018 (UTC) Gamaliel (talk) 13:01, 12 July 2019 (UTC) Pablo Busatto (talk) 11:51, 24 August 2019 (UTC) Theklan (talk) 19:25, 20 December 2019 (UTC) SM5POR (talk) 20:17, 29 May 2020 (UTC) Pmt (talk) 23:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC) CarlJohanSveningsson (talk) 12:13, 30 July 2020 (UTC) Ayack (talk) 14:39, 12 October 2020 (UTC) EthanRobertLee (talk) 19:17, 20 December 2020 (UTC) -- Darwin Ahoy! 18:20, 25 December 2020 (UTC) Germartin1 (talk) 03:13, 30 December 2020 (UTC) Skim (talk) 00:13, 10 January 2021 (UTC) El Dubs (talk) 21:55, 29 April 2021 (UTC) CAFLibrarian (talk) 16:36, 30 September 2021 (UTC) Jheald (talk) 18:50, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    Notified participants of WikiProject Genealogy @Nomen ad hoc, ArthurPSmith:

    Is there a way to get this to work in a new proposal? The website is useful, but structured differently than others. I suppose it should be either url (as above) or an id without the "https://gw.geneanet.org/" part. --- Jura 15:19, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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