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Recent Māori issues

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Kia ora there,

Had this guy Roger 8 Roger reverting a few of my edits to do with Māori recently, and I stumbled upon your conversation with him. "Artificial use" of Māori instead of the "normal" English by "officially controlled bodies". "Academic or youth elite" using Māori "is seen as somehow right and proper". This editor clearly has some attitudes and isn't good at hiding them. Dhantegge (talk) 04:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Dhantegge - Yes, I'm Australian, and here we have a sub-class of racists here who object to any attempt to give places their original Aboriginal names in place of the names of white people. Mr "Roger" reminded me of them. It's sad that you have them in NZ too. HiLo48 (talk) 05:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
We call them closet ACT supporters (translation - Pauline Hanson's One Nation or perhaps Clive Palmer's racket). His latest is an attempt to go to war against something I added to the page about the Colony of New Zealand. I added a paragraph referring to the very well established historical consensus that there was a transition of nominative sovereignty to substantive sovereignty (the British declaring they controlled New Zealand in 1841 when they didn't versus 40-60 years later, when the Crown was secure), as well as the argument that Māori did not mean to cede their sovereignty (which has been found repetitively by the Waitangi Tribunal). He reverted this, presumably because he views British law as the only law which means anything and terra nullius as legitimate. In his mind, this means that the New Zealand colony existed with absolute legitimacy immediately after it was proclaimed by a handful of colonial figures, despite Aotearoa then having an almost entirely Māori population, in which they owned all the land and controlled the economy.
Roger's only comment was "no improvement - go to talk", which I did. Surprise, surprise, he ignores it. So these people win by default. Dhantegge (talk) 00:41, 13 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

POV caution

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Characterising media and major commentators in boxing saying that a judging result is unacceptable as "fans being upset" is so close to lying on both fronts of who (significant people) and what (criticising judges, not merely being upset), that it looks like a POV edit because you DONTLIKEIT. To insist on only this one thing, when there are many actual examples of fans just being upset (the opening ceremony 'controversy' for one) there, further makes it seem like you have something against a specific inclusion. If that's not the case, I invite you to explain yourself - and without the shouting this time, hey. Kingsif (talk) 03:28, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • I also suggest taking up invitations to discuss before you find yourself section-blanking without a reason (personal disagreement with inclusion is not sufficient for section-blanking) - not to mention the edge of edit warring. Consider this message warnings for both. Kingsif (talk) 03:36, 30 July 2024 (UTC)'Reply
Drop the threats. They will never convince me I'm wrong. Is that the way you always discuss things? HiLo48 (talk) 03:49, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

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