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The result was draftify‎. ✗plicit 23:33, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sim Hyon-jin

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 21:39, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sigcov here, which is about 700 words jointly-focused on him and one other player. One could certainly write a decent-sized start/c bio here. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:45, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Drafify - to give BeanieFan11 the time to write a proper article. Giant Snowman 21:02, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify – Per above. Svartner (talk) 23:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Muhammad Ishtiaq Ghafoor

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Declined prod. One of the sources added is a small mention of him [1] and not WP:SIGCOV. Normally notable weightlifters have at least competed in Olympics or medalled in a major competition. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 23:13, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment The very first source says he won a silver medal at the 2006 South Asian Games. I know nothing about that competition or whether or not that makes him notable.4meter4 (talk) 03:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep Although he's not an Olympian but having participated in Asian and Common Wealth games and as a medalist in South Asian games makes him somewhat notable from Pakistani standards. Muneebll (talk) 22:53, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not seeing any WP:SIGCOV for a pass of WP:GNG/WP:NSPORT, and he does not appear to qualify under any of the NSPORT sport-specific guidelines. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I don’t see how this passes WP:SPORTCRIT either. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Agata Rosłońska

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Non-notable figure skater; fails WP:NSKATE. Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:01, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ali Bazmandegan

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 22:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – I don't follow sports in the country, but agree with nomination. Corresponding article on Arabic Wikipedia is also a stub. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2018 Moss Side shooting

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Fails WP:EVENT. All the coverage is from August-September 2018. No lasting WP:EFFECT. LibStar (talk) 22:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. From a search, I can't even find what happened to the two people who were arrested. There is not enough coverage to write an article with a complete picture of the event. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:20, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, redirect to List of mass shootings in the United Kingdom#2010s, where it has an entry PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:30, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Transwikify or delete per WP:NOTDICT. Mathglot (talk) 22:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ping DanCherek, contributor. Mathglot (talk) 22:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Set and drift, where the concept is explained in more detail. This is something most every manual of naval navigation would talk about and is likely a notable topic on its own. But we already have an article on set and drift, so readers would be best served by a redirect to the better and better referenced article. Drift is also discussed in multiple places in Dead reckoning; that could be a good target, too, but Set and drift is more focused on the particular concept of drift and so may be a better target. --{{u|Mark viking}} {Talk} 03:57, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abdulrahman Al-Rashidi (Qatari footballer)

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 22:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – I don't follow sports in the country, but agree with nomination. Corresponding article on Arabic Wikipedia is also a stub. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:12, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of aspect ratios of national flags

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Information relating to aspect ratios is already included in List of national flags of sovereign states ―Howard • 🌽³³ 21:58, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of national flags of sovereign states And Adoil Descended (talk) 00:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of national flags of sovereign states. 24,874 views in the past 90 days. Some are searching for this, so leave it as a redirect instead of just deleting it. Dream Focus 03:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen CuUnjieng

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This was a pending "draft" in articlespace. The sources in the article are of low-quality, and the WP:BEFORE search was questionable at best. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 08:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Passes WP:BIO and WP:GNG. However, it is recommended to enhance the content by incorporating additional reliable sources, which are available online and can be appropriately cited to improve the article.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 08:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The reason why I wanted to draftify is that I couldn't find any reliable sources, and unfortunately, in my experience, without draftification, the article gets abandoned. The draft might get abandoned as well, but can be G13-deleted (basically, a "soft delete" where someone can get the draft "refunded" or bought back). I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 17:34, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which sources? Geschichte (talk) 10:19, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete The articles a whole NOTCV mess, but as of the 7th of this month, he hosts a TV show on Philippine TV (ABS/CBN). It's arguably WP:TOOSOON and also arguable that one weekly business show anchoring gig is not the stuff of notability. Borderline, but I'm still not sure there's enough here to keep. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:33, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nirantara Ganesh

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I don’t see significant coverage of the subject in the cited sources and those I searched; hence, the subject fails to meet WP:GNG. Additionally, the subject is not an elected MLA or MP and therefore fails to meet WP:NPOL. GrabUp - Talk 14:50, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I am new to Wikipedia and I don't have too much editing knowledge or anything. But I came across this article. This guy is a very famous social worker. Damn famous. I'm not sure whether this has to stay. But he's every famous. Wholeddadawgsout (talk) 16:09, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wholeddadawgsout: Being Damn famous does not inherently make a person notable per our guidelines. Please read WP:NOTABILITY. GrabUp - Talk 16:33, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your feedback. However, I’d like to clarify a few points. The subject meets WP:GNG as there is significant coverage in reliable and independent mainstream sources. These sources discuss the subject in depth, not just passing mentions.

Additionally, while the subject is not an MLA or MP, notability on Wikipedia isn’t limited to holding public office. The article doesn’t contain any promotional content or unverifiable claims; it simply presents factual information based on reliable sources.

I believe the page meets Wikipedia’s guidelines and provides valuable information. I’d appreciate reconsidering the deletion Anandrajkumar0000 (talk) 16:17, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Anandrajkumar0000: Please provide those significant coverages here so others can evaluate them. GrabUp - Talk 16:31, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete pet WP:MILL - every three weeks, I served two 12- hour shifts as an EMT and also ran for village trustee, in beautiful New Paltz, New York. That doesn’t make me notable, and neither is this doctor/political party jumper/ social worker / damn famous guy notable. Bearian (talk) 04:34, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Nothing about this guy is notable in any way. Only notable thing (at a stretch) is his relative. Procyon117 (talk) 16:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Acıbadem Üniversitesi S.K.

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Although there are 9 sources on the Turkish article some are trivial and others no longer exist. So I doubt this team is notable Chidgk1 (talk) 14:12, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Bahçeşehir Koleji S.K.. Per this source: Team names: Acibadem Universitesi Istanbul (-2016), Bahcesehir (2017-). Geschichte (talk) 16:21, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Graham Harvey (actor)

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~~Delete~~ Keep (see comment below) – The article never seems to have been referenced properly since its creation. My WP:BEFORE searches turned up no significant coverage in decent sources apart from passing mentions of the characters played. I therefore suggest that the subject does not meet WP:NACTOR. SunloungerFrog (talk) 13:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: has significant roles in The Sulllivans, E Street and The Young Doctors, 3 notable productions; therefore meets WP:NACTOR. Adding sources to page. Mushy Yank (talk) 00:01, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If this is judged insufficient and his role in The Sullivans is judged his best-know role, could be redirected to The Sullivans#Characters (mentioned there; but mentioned in the pages about the other 3 series). Mushy Yank (talk) 00:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Delete. Poor sources with no significant coverage on the career of the subject. No notable significant roles played by the subject. Fails WP:NACTOR. Page is better sourced now for subject to pass WP:NACTOR. RangersRus (talk) 00:53, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
no significant coverage on the career of the subject is not accurate. Opening the first source on the page allows to verify it; No notable significant roles played by the subject seems also inaccurate, considering he had more than two hundreds of episodes in the Sullivans and his role seems "notable" enough [note that the guideline does not say notable, which would make the roles/characters article-worthy, but significant] not to mention almost 100 in E Street (see article), and 70 or more in the Young Doctors), all of them being quite notable Australian series, but being only a part of his career.-Mushy Yank. 01:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Source Analysis. After evaluating "significant changes", source 1 is not independent and has some coverage on the role the subject played but not noteworthy. Source 2 is just passing mention, Source 3 and 5 are just entries and sources 4 is an unreliable personal tribute site created by glittergalwebs. RangersRus (talk) 02:38, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"not noteworthy" is a very personal and highly debatable appraisal. Also, I would like to note that the quotation marks to mention the significant changes are unnecessarily disdainful. Whatever one thinks of them, they are changes made to the page and not minor. So " ": no, thank you.-Mushy Yank. 03:17, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes NACTOR with the three roles noted above which are significant roles in (very) notable productions. source 1 is independent and has some coverage on the role the subject played and is noteworthy. Source 2 is just passing mention that verifies his role. Further Sullivans coverage exists such as [2]. Also has significant stage roles such as at the Sydney Opera House [3]. + Les Liaisons Dangereuses (play) [4] [5]. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - happy enough to rescind my nomination for deletion now that the article is better referenced. That https://trove.nla.gov.au/ looks like a good resource that I will be adding to my list - thanks duffbeerforme! SunloungerFrog (talk) 09:31, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sebastian Stahl

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Article is unsourced with the only external links leading to database-type webpages (WP:NOTDATABASE), only notability appears to be as a relation to the Schumacher family and not his own sporting achievements (therefore failing WP:NMOTORSPORT). MSportWiki (talk) 09:26, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The only coverage out there is of him not taking a doomed flight and every headline (I say 'every', there are like 2), is "Michael Schumacher's stepbrother flew on doomed Germanwings flight one day before crash". Altogether now, 'notability is not inherited' and there's absolutely no SIGCOV of him in his own right, thereby failing WP:GNG. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:20, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Why has the article average daily page views of over 300 (that's over 100 000 page views in the last 365 days) and why is the article available in 10 languages? That has to come from somewhere so maybe there's coverage we don't see? Currently I tend to vote delete but not with these questions in mind. Killarnee (talk) 10:40, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Killarnee: It's likely because he's a relative of Michael Schumacher, a high-profile racing driver. Looking through those other languages, the majority are completely unsourced - the Spanish article has the most sources, but it links the same routine database three times. MSportWiki (talk) 08:02, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. While that sounds plausible, I still find it strange that it’s possible to achieve such a resonance solely based on kinship. At least there’s no indication that anything new will emerge, as Stahl appears to have already been inactive for a long time. Killarnee (talk) 13:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Epack Prefab

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Epack Prefab

Article about an Indian company which manufactures pre-engineered buildings (PEBs), also known as prefabricated buildings, but does not establish corporate notability. None of the references are significant coverage by independent sources. The references are mostly press releases or paid pieces by the company or interviews with the company, and some of them are about the technology rather than the company.

Reference Number	Reference	Comments	Independent	Significant	Reliable	Secondary
1	livemint.com	A corporate profile	No	Yes	?	No
2	Times of India	An interview with an officer in the course of an article	Yes	No. Passing mention.	No	?
3	news.abplive.com	An interview	No	Yes	?	No
4	businesstoday.in	An interview about how prefab building reduces pollution	No	Not about the company, but about the technology	Yes	No
5	www.tv9hindi.com	An interview about prefab building	No	Not about the company, but about the technology	Yes?	No
6	www.zeebiz.com	An interview about the company	No	Yes	Yes?	No
7	www.etnownews.com	An interview with some promotional content	No	Yes	Yes?	No
8	auto.economictimes.indiatimes.com	A feature story, reads as if it was paid	No	Yes	No. Times of India.	No
9	infra.economictimes.indiatimes.com	Another feature story, may be paid	No	Yes	No. Times of India.	No
10	www.financialexpress.com	Reads like a corporate profile	No	Yes	Yes	No
11	www.adgully.com	An ad in an advertising web site, corporate information	No	Yes	?	No
12	www.constructionworld.in	A press release	No	Yes	?	No
13	www.outlookbusiness.com	An interview about prefab building	No	No. Not about the company, but about the technology	?	No
14	The Hindu	A press release	No	Don't know. Only able to view lead of article due to paywall, but that was enough to see that it is a press release.	Yes	No
15	indianinfrastructure.com	Article about prefab building. Doesn't mention the company.	Yes	No. Not about the company, but about the technology	Yes	No?
16	www.zeebiz.com	An article about prefab building. No mention of company.	Yes	No. Not about the company, but about the technology	Yes?	No
17	www.business-standard.com	A press release about corporate plans.	No	Yes	Yes	No

This article was originally created in article space by a now-blocked promotional editor, and moved back to draft space by the blocking administrator. This article appears to be identical to the draftified article by another editor. There are concerns about covert advertising, but it isn't necessary to know whether there is covert advertising, because there isn't coverage that satisfies corporate notability. The author of this version of the article has now been blocked as a sockpuppet.

The draft can be left standing because drafts are not checked for notability. In view of the history of sockpuppetry and conflict of interest, salting is probably in order in article space. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:25, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Subject lack notability Per WP:Notability_(organizations_and_companies) Tesleemah (talk) 05:40, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I’d like to address Reference Number 5. It was mentioned that this is just an interview about prefab building, but after reviewing it carefully, I see it as an independent article. The article discusses EPACK Prefab’s role in the prefabricated construction sector. In it, the director of EPACK Prefab highlights how prefabrication allows for up to 90% of the work to be completed in a factory, which significantly speeds up the construction process. From my perspective, this is more than an interview—it’s an article that explores prefab construction and specifically references Epack Prefab company's name. Suhailjav (talk) 04:34, 7 November 2024 (UTC) — Suhailjav (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 03:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I’d also like to address Reference Number 1. It is mentioned that this is an interview, but after a thorough review, I believe it’s actually an independent article. The article covers the growth of warehousing in Visakhapatnam and includes references to EPACK Prefab’s contributions within this sector. It highlights the company’s involvement in prefab construction for warehousing, showing how our solutions support this expanding industry. From my perspective, this is more than an interview—it’s an article that provides insight into warehousing growth while specifically mentioning EPACK Prefab’s role. Suhailjav (talk) 04:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC) — Suhailjav (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 03:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Reference Number 10. It was noted that this reference 'reads like a corporate profile,' but upon reviewing it, I see it as an independent article focused on EPACK Prefab’s #WasteToWorth campaign. The article discusses the company’s sustainability and recycling initiatives rather than promoting its profile. It specifically highlights EPACK Prefab’s efforts to encourage eco-friendly practices within the prefabrication industry. In my view, this piece serves as a report on the campaign and EPACK Prefab’s commitment to sustainable practices, rather than a corporate profile. Suhailjav (talk) 04:50, 7 November 2024 (UTC) — Suhailjav (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 03:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This may be eligible for WP:G4 as it closely resembles the page deleted in July following the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EPACK Prefab. Yuvaank (talk) 17:58, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per WP:HEYMANN. The subject certainly meets WP:LISTED, WP:NCORP and Wikipedia's General Notability Guidelines with significant coverage in independent reliable sources, including the EPACK Prefab to set up pre-engineered building manufacturing unit in Tirupati district of Andhra Pradesh written by V. Raghavendra from The Hindu which is a reliable source in Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#The Hindu, Vishakhapattanam records 265% increase in warehousing] written by Umamaheswara Rao from The Times of India generally count as reliable and Can pre-engineered building construction help reduce air pollution in Delhi? written by Nidhi Singal from Business Today magazine which is also a reliable resource. 2409:40D0:2022:3A4:A8BB:13DD:AC2:204F (talk) 08:23, 11 November 2024 (UTC) — 2409:40D0:2022:3A4:A8BB:13DD:AC2:204F (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 00:07, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Appealing to WP:HEY makes less than zero sense here. The article is literally the exact same at this time as it was at the time it was nominated for deletion. I would also note that The Times of India is not presumed generally reliable; see WP:TOI. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 03:03, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The subject has received significant coverage in national media. The page appears to have passed WP:NPP. Additionally, it satisfies WP:GNG and meets WP:LISTED.Wasisi Cyclelove (talk) 18:16, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Resources passes WP:GNG and it also meets WP:LISTED. AmericanY (talk) 06:51, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Robert McClenon's nomination statement, this fails NCORP and no references have been presented in this debate or in the article that meet this threshold. Red-tailed hawk points out that TOI is not a reliable source for Wikipedia purposes, which refutes the only comment in this debate which attempted to present a refutation to the nomination. I also find the multiple editors with <100 edits in this debate to be quite unusual, and ask the closer place the appropriate weight on their weak and non-P&G-compliant arguments. Daniel (talk) 15:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Robert's source analysis is convincing. Furthermore, the multiple "keep" !voters invoking WP:LISTED are mistaken. The only EPACK company that is publicly listed is EPACK Durable Ltd. (https://epackdurable.com/investor-relations/). EPACK Prefab is a different subsidiary of the EPACK Group (see here: https://www.epack.in/group-overview), which is why we're not seeing the usual WP:SIGCOV in reliable, independent sources that we see for listed firms. The sources here are limited to trivial mentions, trade publications, press releases, other primary sources and other content that falls short of the requirements of WP:NCORP. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Susan Park

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Non-notable actress. Could not find SIGCOV about her. Natg 19 (talk) 08:21, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Sources in the article do not pass any sourcing guidelines and could not find other sources as Google search showed only unreliable sites where the subject is mentioned. Fails WP:NACTRESS. Mekomo (talk) 14:10, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: She has a role in the main cast of Snowpiercier (https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2020/05/19/the-spectacular-susan-park-on-snowpiercer/ https://deadline.com/2017/08/snowpiercer-susan-park-cast-series-regular-in-tnt-pilot-1202158674/) and various recurring roles in notable series. Various sources (some being intros of interviews, the focus varying, and the quality too) allow to verify that. So that she meets WP:NACTOR in my view and deletion is not necessary. (also see https://deadline.com/2024/08/twinless-movie-adds-chis-perfetti-francois-arnaud-more-cast-1236050504/ https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/29/movies/always-be-my-maybe-review.html (role mentioned with short appraisal) https://www.thewrap.com/keanu-reeves-joins-ali-wong-randall-park-comedy-always-be-my-maybe-at-netflix/ (simple mention) https://cinemadailyus.com/interviews/actress-susan-park-on-sxsw-pilot-lucy-sara/ Other sources in other languages exist. Mushy Yank (talk) 00:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that she has roles in notable films/TV series, but they are usually minor roles. I was not able to find much beyond simple mentions of her in reliable sources. Natg 19 (talk) 02:04, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Usually", maybe but that means not always, not all, and indeed she is in the main cast of Snowpiercer and has recurring/signficant roles in other productions (see NY Times and other sources mentioning them) and the guideline requires significant roles in notable productions, not that none of her roles (or even only a small part of them) should be minor. Mushy Yank (talk) 05:54, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Passes NACTOR through roles in Twinless and Snowpiercer. Her role in William also seems to be significant enough. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 12:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: There is moderate coverage, ranging from only trivial to beyond trivial, across multiple reliable sources, which supports weak notability. But sources from Deadline and Cinema Daily US passes WP:ACTOR.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 17:55, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which sources are you looking at? I do not believe Cinema Daily US is an RS (seems like a film blog), and the Deadline articles that I have found are simple casting announcements. Natg 19 (talk) 18:06, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Marxist–Leninist Party of Ukraine

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Unsourced since 2009. The external link does not refer to this party, at least per machine translation. Only references I can find to this party are referring or reproducing this article. Smallangryplanet (talk) 20:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - I find nothing at all searching in either Ukrainian or Russian. There was 'Communist Marxist-Leninist Party of Ukraine' founded in 2013 by Leonid Grach [ru], which was clearly another party. --Soman (talk) 10:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Republican Party efforts to disrupt the 2024 United States presidential election

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Reasoning is very similar to my reasoning over on another AfD. Simply put the article is flawed inherently as POV, starting with the very title. It's based on accusations from the opposing parties against the Republicans. As such is gives undue weight to one side's POV. It is therefore, flawed and impossible to present as NPOV. I move the article be deleted, and where appropriate, the contents be merged with other articles. TrueCRaysball ^💬|✏️ 20:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Additionally, it could be stated the the existence of the article is a logical fallacy, as the election has been since won by the Republican Party, at the presidential, congressional, and the gubernatorial level (in terms of gubernatorial seats). It would be inherently contradictory that the Republican Party would try to disrupt an election that they would end up winning, especially considering the party’s change in messaging earlier this year regarding voter registration efforts. I second the OPs motion, and the article should be a section within the main election article. Cavvy18 (talk) 04:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The article is well-referenced and impartial. In fact, the minority view here is that of the Republican Party; giving it equal weight to the point of view of the Democrats would violate WP:FALSEBALANCE.

JPerez90 (talk) 07:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It would be helpful to know the reasoning as to why someone wants this article deleted. As long as it is factual and has good references it should remain, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cabdriver000 (talk • contribs) 13:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep- same as my last nom vote •Cyberwolf•talk? 15:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep No suggestion that the "accusations" are inaccurate – these are all extensively sourced, and your not liking it is not a basis for deletion. It's quite well documented that Republicans laid the groundwork to challenge or undermine the reliability of the election had they lost, and that they didn't need to do so does not negate that. It certainly needs trimming and better use of sections though, some are unreadably long and detailed. Reywas92^Talk 15:24, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Republican efforts to restrict voting following the 2020 presidential election

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The very premise of this article is POV. The title, the idea. It is based on a Democratic talking point that is simply an accusation. As an encyclopedia, our job is to make encyclopedic articles that are factual, and without bias. While one side claims that the legislation passed by Republicans is to “restrict voting” and includes the negative connotation that goes with that wording, I’m sure the Republicans would argue that their actions are only to ensure votes comes from only those that are supposed to vote, without outside interference. My point being, as stated, that the very premise of this article, and even its title, is based on accusations from the Democrat party against the Republicans, and is therefore inherently flawed as a POV, and therefore they have no place as articles on Wikipedia as it gives undue weight to one side. Policies violated with this article existing are including, but not limited to WP:NPOV, WP:DUE, WP:POVNAMING, WP:IMPARTIAL, and more. I therefore move this article be deleted, and it’s contents, where appropriate, be moved to other articles. TrueCRaysball ^💬|✏️ 20:19, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The concept of voter suppression by the Republican Party is much more than "simply an accusation". The amount of references shown here alone is a pretty clear indicator of a broad trend, which is a widely-studied phenomena that has been covered ad nauseam in news, books, and journal articles. To dismiss this overwhelming evidence as "accusations from the Democrat party" seems like POV to me. JTtheOG (talk) 20:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't seen any discussion on the talk page since I was there about 2 years ago. DN (talk) 21:20, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Anderson, Carol (2018). One Person, No Vote: How Voter Suppression Is Destroying Our Democracy. Bloomsbury Publishing.
- Bentele, Keith G.; O'Brien, Erin E. (2013). "Jim Crow 2.0? Why States Consider and Adopt Restrictive Voter Access Policies". Perspectives on Politics. 11 (4): 1088–1116 – via JSTOR.
- Hajnal, Zoltan; Lajevardi, Nazita; Nielson, Lindsay (2017). "Voter Identification Laws and the Suppression of Minority Votes". The Journal of Politics. 79 (2): 363–379 – via JSTOR.
- Murty, Komanduri S.; Holyfield-Moss, Bridget (2017). "Racial Microaggressions Related to Voter ID Laws in the United States". Race, Gender & Class. 24 (1–2): 120–132 – via JSTOR.
- Jones, Adrienne; Polsky, Andrew J. (2021). "How to Win a "Long Game": The Voting Rights Act, the Republican Party, and the Politics of Counter-Enforcement". Political Science Quarterly. 136 (2): 215–248. doi:10.1002/polq.13166.
- Shah, Paru; Smith, Robert S. (2013). "Legacies of Segregation and Disenfranchisement: The Road from Plessy to Frank and Voter ID Laws in the United States". RSF: The Russell Sage Foundation Journal of the Social Sciences. 7 (1): 134146. doi:10.7758/rsf.2021.7.1.08 – via JSTOR.
- Wang, Tova (2012). The Politics of Voter Suppression: defending and expanding Americans' right to vote. Cornell University Press.
Keep We should not refrain from documenting the extent of this classic GOP tactic because people don't like how it reflects on the party. If a name change for the article is required, so be it. I think I recall a lengthy discussion about the title back when it was created. JTtheOG (talk) 21:27, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article is factual, you just can't cope with it. YBSOne (talk) 22:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That’s not very good faith of you, and leaks into WP:NPA territory. Careful. TrueCRaysball ^💬|✏️ 22:42, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
this is just another case of WP:SOAPBOX. YBSOne (talk) 08:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The article is extremely biased and I agree it violates WP:NPOV, WP:DUE, WP:POVNAMING, WP:IMPARTIAL. Also for all the talk about how it's harder to vote in certain states like Georgia there's no actual evidence of that when you look at voter turnout.AllSportsfan16 (talk) 23:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You do understand the false equivalency in comparing the "efforts to" from "actual results". Efforts to restrict can still be made and are non-democratic ways to battle for votes. Turnout can still be larger from the Republican side therefore the "efforts to" would be sucessfull. YBSOne (talk) 15:32, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per nomination. Anotherperson123 (talk) 04:06, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep significant academic material exists on this subject. While I would caution people to avoid sensational news reporting in favour of academic material the arguments for deletion boil down to WP:IDONTLIKEIT and that's not sufficient grounds. Simonm223 (talk) 14:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Extraordinarily well documented phenomenon. If there are WP:COATRACK or WP:POVTITLE or WP:DUE concerns, those are things dealt with by editing rather than through deletion. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep- It’s sourced •Cyberwolf•talk? 15:04, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep Major sources have extensively established that many Republican legislatures have in fact passed voter suppression measures. The fact that voters still turned out following education and outreach and overcame inconveniences like long lines does not negate that. Reywas92^Talk 15:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fleas and Lice

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Non-notable band. They have one CD on a possibly marginally notable label, but that's it. The previous AfD was from 2006 and it does not disappoint--"keep" votes range from "they toured intensely", sourced to the now-defunct band web site, to "I have heard of them and I'm not a crust punk fan do they must be notable". There is no secondary sourcing in the article and I didn't find any either using Google News--a regular Google search provides nothing but the usual hits for bands: primary material, Discogs, Reddit. Drmies (talk) 18:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. There is, of course, coverage in their city's newspaper, Nieuwsblad van het Noorden ([6], [7]), and there are mentions in 3voor12, for example ([8], [9]). But I wasn't able to find enough coverage to establish notability. toweli (talk) 20:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - As found by the previous voter, the band has some homeotwn announcements and basic interviews, but they have little historical or critical coverage with which to build an encyclopedic article. And by the way, every working band goes on tour but that's not notable unless the reliable music media reports on it. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Naaim Firdaus

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The subject has only played in two matches to date and this is just a stats stub as things stand with a very weak claim to notability. I found Borneo Post, Harian Metro and Makan Bola but all of these are trivial mentions. If nothing better is found, then this fails WP:SPORTBASIC pure and simple. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ervin Nagy

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Not suitable for WP:N, he is not a known pianist in Hungary, there is no article about him in Hungarian Wikipedia. His name is the same as a famous hungarian actor's, so this article just makes confusion. Also a stub, and self-promotion, his personal website included. Only sources about him are not indepedent or just databases. He has a video in YouTube, with only few thousand viewers so far. Hörgő (talk) 18:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - He's a working musician with regular teaching and composing gigs, and occasional recitals that are announced in local newspapers, but this article is clearly an attempted promotion and his career has not been noticed by reliable media. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amie Jo Bishop

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Came across this because of its use of paid/vanity coverage in the Bru Times News. Apart from that source, the article has two reviews in the Northwest Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. Although I take these reviews somewhat seriously, I think that reviews in one publication falls short of WP:NCREATIVE and/or WP:NMUSIC. There is also an interview in a source of uncertain reliability, and several citations to the discography of the subject. It looks WP:TOOSOON to me at best. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 17:25, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - WP:MUSICBIO requires evidence of touring nationwide; two local articles from Arkansas is insufficient for significant coverage. Bearian (talk) 04:18, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I found this topic notable and meets WP:NBIO. Sufikoin (talk) 11:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Sufikoin (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. [reply]
Can you explain how they meet BIO? Oaktree b (talk) 21:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Not meeting GNG... Her instagram has a whole of 120 something followers and the lack of any kind of sourcing outside Arkansas shows that this individual isn't notable. I don't find anything about her music. Oaktree b (talk) 21:38, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First Internet Backgammon Server

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. The linked book does not contain significant coverage of FIBS. The article was kept in a 2008 discussion, but the arguments presented there wouldn't hold up today. toweli (talk) 17:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I see a lot of trivial mentions in books etc. but nothing substantial. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Zxcvbnm. Trivial mentions on Newspapers.com as well. Timur9008 (talk) 15:23, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Switchflicker Records

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It is a PR article created by the company itself as implied from creator's user name. Since Ting Tings was only a client/artist who at one point in their life was associated to them, it's not an appropriate re-direct target. Therefore, the appropriate remedy to this run of the mill non-notable company is to delete. Graywalls (talk) 16:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alexandru Tofan

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Delete - I have not been able to find (WP:BEFORE) independent sources of any kind to establish or support the notability of this soccer player with regard to WP:SPORTBASIC. There are plenty of database sources, but I understand that this is not sufficient to establish notability. SunloungerFrog (talk) 15:54, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Joshua Sales

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I have carried out WP:BEFORE for this article about a session musician, and not found references to add. I do not think the existing references demonstrate that he meets WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO or WP:NMUSICIAN. There is no obvious redirect target. Tacyarg (talk) 15:29, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2018 Philippines Piper PA-23 crash

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Per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:EVENTCRIT. Per WP:GNG, "sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability". From what I've been able to find, none of the sources were secondary in nature since none of them contained analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the event itself. The event does not have in-depth nor sustained continued coverage with coverage only briefly occurring in the aftermath of the accident. No lasting effects or long-term impacts on a significant region have been demonstrated. WP:EVENTCRIT#4 states that routine kinds of news events including most accidents – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance, which this event lacks. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 15:19, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom: a classic case of a run-of-the-mill light aircraft crash that resulted in brief news coverage but nothing further that would support notability. Rosbif73 (talk) 15:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Another case of a light aircraft crash that is totally unrelevant. Protoeus (talk) 23:27, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lists of Netflix exclusive international distribution programming

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By their own admission, the pages here do NOT list Netflix programming, merely content that it has a licence for in specific territories. In the same way that we would not list programming created by, say, Disney on a list of programming on an international channel that it has exclusive rights for in that territory, say BBC, we should not be listing it here. WP:NOTDIRECTORY; WP:NOTTVGUIDE. --wooden superman 14:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I am also nominating the following related pages:

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WP:SPLITLIST applies and WP:NLIST says: "Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability."; clearly the case here. (and I'm sorry but the scope, range and detail of Netflix's distribution has been the subject of coverage as a set, making the list notable anyway.... Start with World Cinema On Demand: Global Film Cultures in the Era of Online Distribution. (2022) Bloomsbury Publishing, p. 200; and Baker, D., Balanzategui, J., Sandars, D. (2023). Netflix, Dark Fantastic Genres and Intergenerational Viewing: Family Watch Together TV. Taylor & Francis (passim).., -Mushy Yank. 19:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is plainly a WP:NOTDIR violation and much better handled with categories rather than a page the average reader is never going to get near, or if they do, fail to understand what the list describes outside 'things on Netflix' as the introduction is badly explained and obtuse. Nate • (chatter) 19:57, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd argue that categories are also inappropriate as it is not WP:DEFINING for content that Netflix does not produce itself. --wooden superman 20:29, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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List of films released by Psychopathic Video

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Unreferenced for 10 years, most of the releases are hardly notable except for about four of them that can be mentioned at Psychopathic Records#Psychopathic Video. WP:NOTCATALOG --wooden superman 14:45, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge back into Psychopathic Records#Psychopathic Video but that article being a B-class rather long article, the merge should be discussed on talk page and if judged unnecessary then Keep per WP:SPLITLIST. Sources can be added and unsourced material removed but that seems to be a cleanup issue.-Mushy Yank. 22:46, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Funkefeller

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Article about a not-notable electronica producer. Of the article's 5 references, 1 is to their non-notable label's website, and the other four are all blog articles written by that label in a community feed. Also, he seems to have started the label himself the same year this article was written. The Wikipedia article seems to have long outlasted the artist and their label, all because they formatted five references that looked legit at a glance. Here2rewrite (talk) 14:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, does not seem to be anything to suggest notability.TheLongTone (talk) 15:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Well, the article has five sources, four of which are red per Cite Highlighter, so non-notable (the Beatport ones). Gsearch is straight to streaming sites of every variety, and Gnews has nada. This funky fellow doesn't seem to meet notability, but the music does seem pretty interesting. Oaktree b (talk) 21:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Western European paintings in Ukrainian museums

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1) As far as I can tell, we don't have any other article that is about "List of paintings of x origin being held in museums in y country". This feels like WP:ARBITRARYCAT, and it's really not notable that Western European paintings specifically are held in Ukraine when Western European paintings are held in museums around the world and when Ukrainian museums have collections of paintings from around the world.

2) Most of the history discussed in the article is not about Western European art in Ukraine specifically, but about the history of artworks in Ukraine in general (several mentions of art museums with Oriental art). This is an interesting topic, but it doesn't justify the existence of an article dedicated specifically to Western European art in Ukraine.

3) The article has been marked as completely lacking sources for 15 years, probably because there is a lack of sources dedicated to the topic of "which Western European paintings are held in Ukraine" (only one I could find was a book published in 1981, but the information in that list is almost certainly out of date after 40 years).

Previous deletion discussion was closed as no consensus.

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Delete: I tend to agree with the nom, this isn't really helpful when Western European art is held around the world. I really don't see notability for most of the museums, they aren't that well-known. We're not listing paintings in the Louvre or the MoMA, that are world-famous. Oaktree b (talk) 16:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, the list part of this article is unhelpful. National museums house stuff from across the entire globe, it's what they do, and which museums house what isn't really encyclopedia material. Where there's a particular documented controversy about a country's culture being housed in another country's museums (Elgin marbles is an extreme individual case) then we can have an article, but I don't think there's any special controversy about the fact there are Western European paintings in Ukrainian museums. So I agree to this extent: the list could be deleted. But the introductory material to the list, about the history of museums, galleries, and art-works is actually quite encyclopedic and interesting. Could the article be trimmed of its "list" material and status, and moved to a more appropriate title? Elemimele (talk) 17:31, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as WP:CROSSCAT. ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 03:20, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment imo the problem with the suggestion is that that portion of the article remains unreferenced, so while it is interesting and possibly valid as a renamed article, I would want to see it appropriately sourced - or sourced at all - before making that determination. Are there other articles we could merge it into that already discuss the topic? Smallangryplanet (talk) 10:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a single source, but I still stand by my comment. Smallangryplanet (talk) 10:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nicole Abiouness

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Nominating an article I wrote for deletion. I wrote it in 2012. I do not believe that this subject qualifies for inclusion in Wikipedia due to WP:Notability. Missvain (talk) 22:20, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Vicky Zahed

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Fails our notability criteria – doesn't meet WP:CREATIVE. Ratekreel (talk) 13:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Sources 1 and 7 are RS and are about this individual and some of their handy work, I think it's ok. Oaktree b (talk) 21:43, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep (nomination withdrawn). (non-admin closure) Aydo h8^[contribs] 02:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mama Said (Metallica song)

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This appears to be a very borderline WP:NSONG case. This song actually did get certified gold in Australia, but I can barely find material that actually discusses it. I'm bringing this here because it's very likely that a consensus could form to just redirect it, and I don't think there's enough for a standalone article, all told. Outside of the sourcing verifying the certification, the other sources presented are the band's website (WP:PRIMARY, so does not contribute to notability), a ranking of all of the band's songs up to the point, a mention on a list of the best country rock songs (might have passed WP:SIGCOV if there was more there, but it's just a small handful of short sentences), and a list of the best albums of 1996 where it is discussed in the context of the album. A WP:BEFORE search didn't give me much in the way of significant coverage. Certification notwithstanding, I just don't see enough here for the song to have an article. As such, I feel it should be redirected to Load (album), but I will open up discussion here to see what others think. JeffSpaceman (talk) 13:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC) Striking, AFD withdrawn JeffSpaceman (talk) 00:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep: The gold sales in AU are helping notability, one review here [10], BBC discusses it in a paragraph [11], and the few sources in the article are enough to just pass notability. Oaktree b (talk) 14:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
some discussions in journals and books, [12], [13], heck Gscholar above kicks out a dozen hits on the song, one in a journal about "metal studies". Oaktree b (talk) 14:54, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Great research! I agree, those definitely help it pass WP:NSONG. I think I will withdraw this nomination as a result, though it would be great if those get added into the article. Thanks for the help here. JeffSpaceman (talk) 15:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The chart positions are missing on this article it charted in the UK at No.19 for starters https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/19961201/7501/ DanTheMusicMan2 (talk) 15:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for locating that! I'm having trouble adding it into the article (adding tables isn't exactly my forte), so if you could add that for me to the article, it would be much appreciated. Thanks a lot for finding this -- I have withdrawn my nomination per above, and this is yet another sign that the song meets WP:NSONG. JeffSpaceman (talk) 15:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Les Marmitons

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No evidence of notability, although it's existed for nearly 2 decades, it's promotional in tone, and likely a copyright violation of [14]. Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (they/them) 13:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Support, article lacks notability. — Your local Sink Cat (The Sink). 06:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of number-one songs of 2010 (Turkey)

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Unprodded a couple of months ago as “appropriate content fork of a seemingly notable chart” but has still not been cited. As the article does not exist in Turkish Wikipedia it seems unlikely to be notable Chidgk1 (talk) 15:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: 1) this is part of a series of articles (in various countries; deleting one page in particular (as has been done after unilateral draftifications of other years) is absurd and borders disruption). 2) OK, I'll source it. But.....the person who DePRoDed this was right imv. Why, just because it is unsourced, take this particular year to deletion? The fact that this does not exist on Turkish WP is not an issue. Also please remember WP:NLIST says: "Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability.". Mushy Yank (talk) 19:03, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mushy Yank OK I did not know that NLIST said that about lists. So does that mean the “unsourced” tag should be removed from this article and similar ones such as List of number-one hits of 2006 (Turkey), 2007, 2009? If so what about the other uncited lists on https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/bycat/Turkey.html#Cites%20no%20sources ?Chidgk1 (talk) 19:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Note that NLIST indicates in the following sentence that, still, presenting sources is more than recommended! In general, the unsourced tag should not be removed until sources are added but the notability of such lists that are part of a set is not an issue, I would say. That list you link is very long and in theory, again, sources should be added but one can only decide whether the page seems notable without sources present on a case by case approach. I'll add sources to the 3 pages you listed but one person cannot source all unsourced pages even if that is only Turkey-related articles. Mushy Yank (talk) 20:14, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, in fact, yes, the Unsourced tag should have been removed because there was a source in the EL of all 4 articles, with a link indicating "previous number ones may be found via archive.org". And the template's doc indicates: "You should only add this template to articles that contain no citations or references of any kind." Which was not the case. ImproveRef or RefExist or any other tag would have been OK. The Unsourced tag, as well as the notability tag, indicate extremely serious issues and should not be used lightly if easy means of verification and available sources exist. Thanks. Mushy Yank (talk) 20:28, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep as issues brought up by nom have been addressed. Tessaract2^Hi! 13:06, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as the article is cited now and per WP:NLIST. Synonimany (talk) 13:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trail Blazer (album)

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One of many uncited Turkish albums which I mentioned to the albums project last month this one was tagged uncited 15 years ago. I searched but there are others with the same name. Unfortunately the Turkey project is only semi-active but hopefully someone from the metal project will know better than me if it is notable Chidgk1 (talk) 14:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I was not able to find material in reliable music magazines, searching for both their band names. I think I could be able to write up one of their later albums, but not this one. I did get hits in Google Books. Geschichte (talk) 16:14, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Anadolu Efes S.K. past rosters

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Article was tagged uncited 4 years ago and does not exist in Turkish. As the main article includes info such as notable players perhaps this uncited article does not have any notable info which is not already in the main article. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I could see a list of players, if sourced, but rosters of each individual year is not a thing I think we do. Some have been up for AFD previously. Maccabi Tel Aviv B.C. past rosters was kept in 2008, whereas C.D. Primeiro de Agosto past squads was deleted in 2015. I think that's telling of how the demands in deletion discussions have evolved. Geschichte (talk) 16:17, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Gaita-de-fole coimbrã

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Completely unsourced article, and I cannot find any good sources on the instrument. All I can find are youtube videos, some facebook posts, a few forum posts, and one website called "folkworld.eu" (link:http://www.folkworld.eu/68/e/wkpf.html). Gaismagorm (talk) 14:19, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Per total lack of WP:V. Svartner (talk) 04:51, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Turpachita

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There is no such village in Kyrgyzstan. Most likely, they meant a mountain pass Турпачаты. Mitte27 (talk) 11:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Redirect to Osh Region. Article cites no sources. Available sources on the internet do not seem to establish notability and therefore fails WP:GNG TNM101 (chat) 11:29, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It might be more correct to redirect to the article Pamir-Alay. Mitte27 (talk) 11:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at OpenStreetMap shows a hamlet with the name турпачаты, though it's not very large and I can't otherwise confirm it. GNG also isn't the guideline for villages - we just need to prove they exist, which will be hard in this instance. SportingFlyer T·C 07:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Pamir-Alay – As WP:ATD per Mitte27, with is more accurate. Svartner (talk) 04:39, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Muthappan Kavu

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No sources for this village itself since 2009, possibly needs a rename if not a delete? I can find lots of references to the festival and to Muthappan, but the only one I can find for this village in particular is this wiki article. Smallangryplanet (talk) 11:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, or possibly re-write. No evidence of notability. I have found a few sources referencing a temple of this name, but not a village. I can't even find anything with this name, let along a village, located on Google Maps, Bing Maps, or Apple Maps. I was able to find a temple with the name "Muthappan Kavu" on OpenStreetMaps, but not a village. Whoever created this article may have been talking about the Muthappan Kavu temple. A re-write or recreation of the article about the temple of the same name might be a possible alternative to deletion, but the temple is of questionable notability, too. GranCavallo (talk) 15:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect to Muthappan. All signs point to: Muthappan Kavu is not a village. At first I was going to suggest redirecting to Memunda, since the article about Memunda already mentions Muthappan Kavu as a local "religious attraction". But as it turns out, in Google Maps you can find multiple places of worship with Muthappan Kavu in the name across multiple locations, and this article in The Hindu uses it is a generic term. There is, however, a Muthappan Kavu Road (not notable). Cielquiparle (talk) 05:06, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:GNG, I did an extensive check when trying to find sources for this in English and Malayalam and couldn't, only things like this. Coeusin (talk) 06:44, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No sources on the page and I can not find any significant coverage on this village to pass notability. Fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 14:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

S. V. S. Rama Rao

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Unsourced since January 2009. The only source I can find for him - at least in english sources - is IMDb, which is not considered RS on its own. Smallangryplanet (talk) 10:54, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep? per WP:CREATIVE (added 2 refs to the page); but I cannot confirm all his credits. Can someone access newspaper/print sources in Telugu? -Mushy Yank. 16:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC) Suggestion: redirect and merge into a paragraph in Telugu_cinema#Cast_and_crew #Art direction as ATD?[reply]
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Mike Weinberg

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This article does not have significant coverage for his acting career and does it fail synthesis material. Absolutiva (talk) 10:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Home Alone 4 per nom. The article's history shows it served as a redirect in 2022 before reverted. – The Grid (talk) 14:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

George M. Murray (scientist)

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Potentially notable academic. Currently fails WP:NPROF. Been on the cat:nn list since 2010. No indication of significance but could be. scope_creep^Talk 09:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Agree that the subject does not meet WP:NPROF. Although the page does not directly say so, the subject is an adjunct research professor at a high-tech satellite campus of UT-Knoxville (https://www.utsi.edu/people/faculty/george-m-murray/, https://www.utsi.edu/about/). I don't see enough citations of their academic work to justify C1 of WP:NPROF and nothing else seems to apply either. This could be revisited in the future since the subject seems to be an active scholar and inventor, but not enough here to keep the page, I think. Qflib (talk) 18:10, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete. Somewhat agree. I see no major indications of peer recognition through awards, and he does not have that many publications. The reason I have a Weak is because his initials overlap with at least one other so I cannot properly check his citations. I am also uncertain about his patents. If there was an award or two I would definitely reverse my vote. Ldm1954 (talk) 14:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. GS[15] shows top citations 392, 167, 114, 101 but then a big drop off. They all seem to be the same researcher, but with no profile there's no information on h-index. Fifty papers does not seem a lot for a modern chemist, I wonder if his work is mainly unpublished because it relates to patented inventions? Willing to be persuaded either way. Espresso Addict (talk) 03:23, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Darragh Moriarty

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As a city councillor, he doesn’t satisfy the notability standards at WP:POLITICIAN, nor do I see evidence of WP:SIGCOV, either from the references here, or a general internet news search, outside of his candidacy. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 09:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom; clearly fails WP:POLITICIAN and likewise, I can find no WP:SIGCOV. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:22, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - non notable local politician, fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Spleodrach (talk) 10:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Non notable city councillor, failing WP:NPOL. Can't see any viable alternative to deletion as Moriarty isn't seen as having a great chance at winning in the upcoming general election, nor is he going to become Lord Mayor any time soon (though part of the pact, Labour apparently don't get a year in the chair>?) ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 10:56, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: he's more notable than the average DCC member because he's involved in the Labour GE campaign on a national level, which is why I created an article for him. It's a small enough parliamentary party for that to make a difference. He's not guaranteed to win but he's not an enormous long shot either - if that's not enough then I submit serenely to your collective wisdom.Snoooooooopywaves (talk) 11:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. WP:NPOL and WP:SIGCOV are not met. (Local councillors are not automatically notable. And this councillor has received no more coverage than we would expect for any other campaigning/electioneering/practicing local politician. With all of the coverage (in the article and seemingly available) representing the same type of "this candidate is a candidate" and "this local councillor said something that local councillors say" type coverage that we'd expect for any such candidate/councillor.) Guliolopez (talk) 13:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hazel De Nortúin

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As a city councillor, she doesn’t satisfy the notability standards at WP:POLITICIAN, nor do I see evidence of WP:SIGCOV, either from the references here, or a general internet news search, outside of her candidacy. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 09:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - non notable local politician, fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Spleodrach (talk) 10:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. De Nortúin doesn't meet WP:NPOL as a city councillor. My only possible alternative to deletion would be to draftify until after the election as she apparently stands a decent chance at holding Bríd Smith's seat in Dublin South Central, but I dunno if that quite meets WP:DRAFTREASON point three. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 10:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom or Draftify per Ser! - draftifying is a possible outcome from a deletion discussion and it would seem reasonable to not delete if, as you say, she does stand a reasonable change at being elected. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep because she's a nationally prominent local politician and easily the most prominent PBP representative who isn't already a TD. She was at their manifesto launch e.g. and there's been another profile of her published in national media since the article was published. (https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/11/20/i-have-two-kids-who-are-working-in-the-civil-service-and-they-cant-afford-to-buy-a-house-candidate-told-on-doorstep/). Could tolerate draftifying if you're trying to hold the line on local reps. Snoooooooopywaves (talk) 11:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"She turned up to a party election event during an election" is not the compelling argument for notability you think it is... Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 11:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify seems fair enough. She has about evens chances of holding the seat for PBP, and it saves the trouble of a fresh start next week if she does. In response to Snoooooooopywaves, coverage of a candidacy during an election doesn’t satisfy notability under WP:POLITICIAN. She is being promoted by PBP because they want to hold Smith’s seat. If she does so, we can restore the article from its draft form. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 11:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: According to WP:NPOL, elected local officials can be notable if they meet WP:GNG. The RS Noticeboard says the Irish Times and The Ditch are reliable. It's barely notable, but notable nonetheless.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:38, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

House of Blue Fire

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Fails WP:GNG prod opposed Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 06:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Doctor_Who:_The_Monthly_Adventures#2011 or delete. I wasn't able to find anything to establish that this was notable. The overall Monthly Adventures series is notable, but not all of the story arcs are independently notable of the main series. To be honest, the majority of these are likely not independently notable. Doctor Who is a wonderful, notable series but so much content is put out that most outlets (that Wikipedia would see as reliable, notability giving sources) would not be able to keep up with the releases and still cover other content. Doesn't mean that some of them might not gain coverage enough to be notable, but it does make it far less likely. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 13:36, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Doctor_Who:_The_Monthly_Adventures#2011. Doctor Who FAQ verfies the publication information and it appears at the target. A redirect is helpful to the reader and WP:REDIRECTSARECHEAP. Daranios (talk) 19:40, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Daranios and ReaderofthePack. Redirects are cheap, and this looks like a title someone could search. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 07:07, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Victorian bias in the Australian Football League

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Propose to delete or WP:ATD-I this article. The topic is not without merit, but from the moment it was created until now, it has been more of a grab-bag of unrelated WP:OR points, WP:SYNTHs from statistical sources, presentation of various editorial news articles opinions, and reads like an essay (or, in places, a diatribe). I believe it is at a standard where it shouldn't remain in the mainspace, and can't be brought to a mainspace standard without being abandoned and rewritten from scratch. Aspirex (talk) 09:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Miss You (film)

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This is about an unreleased film which does not satisfy film notability. Unreleased films are only notable if production itself has received significant coverage by reliable sources. A review of the sources shows that they are all announcements or press releases about the film or its songs. The first five references, in four different media, are essentially identical, which is best explained that they are the same press releases to different media.

Reference Number	Reference	Comments	Independent	Significant	Reliable	Secondary
1	The Hindu	States that movie will be filmed.	No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
2	cinemaexpress.com	States that movie will be filmed.	No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
3	thesouthfirst.com	States that movie will be filmed.	No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
4	www.business-standard.com	States that movie will be filmed.	No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
5	The Hindu	Same as 1	No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
6	timesnownews.com	States that movie will be filmed.	Probably.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
7	Times of India	Passing mention of a song.	Maybe	No. Passing mention.	No	Yes
8	cinemaexpress.com	Press release about a song.	No.	No	Yes	Yes
9	cinemaexpress.com	Another press release about a song.	No.	No	Yes	Yes
10	news18.com	An announcement about the film.	Probably.	Not for this purpose.	Yes	Yes

There is also a draft; the draft and the article are by different authors. The information in this article and in the draft can be merged in the draft, and the draft can be submitted, with reviews and other quality sources, when the film has been released and reviewed. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:52, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Because release is announced for late November, I would normally have suggested to keep this and I would have merged the draft into it .....but there are TWO drafts Draft:Miss You Movie (created yesterday, just before the article, same creator) and Draft:Miss You (film) by User:Gowthamaprabu (created 21. 10); the latter was declined by the nom. Read the following comment: "Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at Miss You (film) instead.", said the nom of the present AfD when declining the page.....which, if I was the page creator, would make me think, the page discussed here is not concerned by deletion! Still as Gowthamaprabu's Draft was the first page to be created, I consider it should be the starting point so I suggest a merge of all three pages into Draft:Miss You (film). Premise is known, actors are notable, coverage for verification exists, so even if it's the other way around, I won't be shocked but declining the Draft and inviting its creator to expand a page and, an hour later or so, taking the said page to AfD is a bit confusing.Mushy Yank (talk) 22:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello @Robert McClenon and @Mushy Yank! Hope you're both doing well! I wanted to provide some context regarding the article Miss You (2024), which covers the upcoming film set for release at the end of November 2024. As mentioned transparently, I have been commissioned by the producers to edit and create content for this article, ensuring accurate representation of the movie. I’ve Confirmed that the official release date is November 29, 2024, though due to a lack of publicly available citations, I haven't specified the date in the article itself. I’ve included all available information with relevant citations, and I believe the content is accurate and complete as presented. If possible, I'd suggest we retain the article and continue to improve it together. We could even consider merging it with Draft: Miss You (Film) by User:Gowthamaprabu to consolidate information. Meena1998 (talk) 07:10, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Draft:Miss You (film) since the film's release is near, let's wait. Once it hits theaters, it is expected to get more coverage and critical reviews. You can then update the page and publish it through the AFC route. For now, let's merge its content into the declined draft:).Chanel Dsouza (talk) 13:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree to merge Miss You (film) article with my draft Draft:Miss You (film). Gowthamaprabu (talk) 03:12, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mergeing into the draft makes the most sense here. Both pages have good info and prose for a subject that may have easy sigcov in the near future but does not yet. Tessaract2^Hi! 13:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mahbub Morshed

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Not seeing significant coverage from multiple independent reliable sources, the subject fails to meet WP:GNG. Additionally, their books are not notable, thereby failing to meet WP:AUTHOR. GrabUp - Talk 08:56, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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He is the current Managing Director and Chief Editor of Bangladesh's national news agency. He has been working as a journalist since 2006 and has held various roles in many of the country's top newspapers and media. In addition, he has published 12 books, most of which are bestsellers in Bangladesh and India, particularly within the Bengali community. He is also a pioneer of the Bengali blogging community, having started as a blogger and author in 2005. His articles are available on Bengali Wikipedia. The page may need some improvements, deleting it is not the best option. Thank you. Normoddev (talk) 04:14, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Foysal Ahmed Shanto

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This is clearly a case of WP:BIO1E, as the sources cover the subject only in relation to the 2024 Bangladesh protest where the subject died. GrabUp - Talk 08:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lingayat Vani

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This article is a POV fork of Lingayatism, created using WP:SYNTHESIS of poor sources to glorify Vaishya Vani caste while conflating it with a different community (Lingayats). Most sources and even most of the article only concerns Lingayats and not Vanis. - Ratnahastin (talk) 08:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Ratnahastin Thank you for initiating this discussion. I would like to address the points raised in the nomination and demonstrate how the article meets Wikipedia's guidelines on notability, neutrality, and verifiability.

1) Not a POV Fork

The topic "Lingayat Vani" is distinct from "Lingayatism" and warrants its own article. While Lingayat Vani has historical and cultural links to Lingayatism, it represents a specific community with unique socio-economic and cultural characteristics. This is supported by independent and reliable sources cited in the article.

The overlap with Lingayatism is a necessary background to provide context, but the article focuses on the Vani subgroup, not the broader religious identity. Such differentiation is aligned with Wikipedia's standards for splitting articles where subtopics merit detailed discussion.

2) No Synthesis or Original Research

The content adheres strictly to Wikipedia:SYNTHESIS. Each claim in the article is directly supported by sources. There is no combining of unrelated points to create new interpretations. Where sources discuss Lingayatism as part of the Vani community's background, it is presented as such, not conflated or misrepresented.

3) Neutral Point of View

The article's tone and structure aim to neutrally document the historical, cultural, and social aspects of the Lingayat Vani community. If there are any specific instances of perceived bias, they can be flagged for improvement.

4) To all the respected Administrators.

I believe the article on "Lingayat Vani" satisfies Wikipedia's core content policies and deserves to remain as a standalone page. I am happy to address any specific concerns or collaborate on improving the article further. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 14:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This comment is entirely AI generated. Please do not use chatbots, you should convey your views in your own words. - Ratnahastin (talk) 14:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ratnahastin Yes I agree I used chat gpt for this reply, I avoid using chatbots for such conversations. But believe me It has been a great time since sockpuppets have been trying to delete the article. I used chatbot in my reply as it saved some time. As a matter of fact even for the chatbot to provide a valid response It needs facts from my side. I sincerely apologize for using it and will never use it again on such discussions. I didn't knew we can't use it here. But I still abide by the views I shared in my prior comment. Thank You ! PerspicazHistorian (talk) 14:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just because you think the article is trying to "Glorify" a community, It doesn't mean it. It is a neutral documentation of cultural aspects of the community. I agree to edit anything if necessary, please initiate it in talk page before, rather than abruptly deleting it. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 14:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ratnahastin Please see: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Lingayat Vani

I sincerely agree to further cooperate if anything directly or indirectly tries to glorify or exaggerate something. Please create a discussion for such topics. Thank You ! PerspicazHistorian (talk) 15:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bradv Hi again. Please tell how can I remove AFD tag from the article . I made some improvements in the articles that make it better and will keep adding later on. Currently I am a part time editor on wikipedia, I don't know how and when to remove it. @Ratnahastin is also not replying. Thanks for your help ! PerspicazHistorian (talk) 17:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It will be removed automatically when this discussion concludes, at least one week from today. – bradv 17:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Universidade Franciscana

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Ths doesn't seem to meet WP:ORG or WP:GNG, or have a good WP:ATD. Boleyn (talk) 08:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Santa Maria, Rio Grande do Sul#Education – The article in Portuguese seems developed enough. If someone wants to improve it, a redirect makes it easier to revert. Svartner (talk) 02:51, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cartoys

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No evidence of notability Maxvolt (talk) 07:57, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I have done research across various sources to improve this article but I was unable to find any evidence this company meets the required notability criteria. The company does not appear to have received significant attention in reliable, independent secondary sources. The available sources are primary sources, press releases, company profiles, and promotional material, which do not count towards demonstrating notability. Maxvolt (talk) 08:01, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not NVIDIA but it's a pretty well known company on the west coast.

Primary source

https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/subscriber-only/2020/05/15/largest-private-companies.html

"The 100 largest private companies on The List collectively reported revenue of $43.8 billion in 2019, up from $41.3 billion in last year’s list. The Lemman family sold North Coast Electric Co. (ranked at No. 20 last year) to Paris-based electrical distributor, Sonepar USA on Feb. 25, 2019. Car Toys Inc. (ranked No. 8 last year), Sound Car & Truck Stores (ranked No. 35 last year), Aviation Technical Services Inc. (ranked No. 42 last year, Precept Wine (ranked No. 64 last year) and PSF Mechanical Inc. (ranked at No. 77 last year) declined to participate on this year’s List. " Clinton555 (talk) 04:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per well detailed nomination rationale which is consistent with my own findings. Mekomo (talk) 10:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Brian Ogola

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Procedural nomination per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 November 12#Brian Ogola. Article was BLARed in 2019 because it was "too outdated" (according to the editor who redirected it). CycloneYoris ^talk! 07:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Maybe keep. I do think there is a credible claim to his passing WP:NACTOR for multiple notable roles. From looking at his IMDB he actually has some lead roles in content available on Netflix (for example https://nairobiwire.com/2020/10/meet-poacher-actor-brian-ogola.html ). The trouble with African media is the press is often ridiculous in its puffery so finding usable sources is often challenging because many of the newspapers get discredited at AFD for being over the top promotional. Based on his work, I say he passes an SNG, but based on sourcing I don't think we will be able to find WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 07:16, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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APFIC Objective and Key Achievements

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Entire article is written like a promotion. Only source mentioning APFIC is its own page and a document at fao.org, its parent organization. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 06:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. It has an entry in this Dictionary, this Dictionary, and an entry beginning on page 627 in International Organizations and the Law of the Sea of which only the first page is viewable. The Encyclopedia of Ocean Law and Policy in Asia-Pacific takes the time to document when various countries became members of this organization. It's organized by nation, so the coverage is across multiple pages. I think this highlighting within an overview of each country indicates some importance. There is also some coverage in [16], [17], Best.4meter4 (talk) 07:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The J-Gos

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I do not think that this hyperlocal band meets NCREATIVE or GNG. I see one review in a hyperlocal newpaper, and little else of substance. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 10:11, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I'm torn on this one. On the one hand, we have many critical reviews in local press (many fromThe Argonaut in San Francisco and Venice Vanguard and Los Angeles Village View in Los Angeles) which arguably meet WP:SIGCOV and criteria 1 of WP:NBAND. On the other hand, the coverage is all to events which could be seen as too local (ie small venues, etc), and we should maybe not consider it significant on that basis. However, there's also the fact that the band randomly did make it on Papua New Guinea's national music chart which would mean it passes criteria 2 of WP:NBAND. In the end this throws it over to the keep side for me.4meter4 (talk) 07:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wagerweb

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Poorly sourced, and a search for sources sufficient to save this article was not successful. Just the occasional sports betting churnalism/SEO, and a few passing mentions nearly 20 years ago about hurricane betting. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 06:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The Oxford Handbook of Sports Economics Volume 2 list it as one of only eight active Sportsbooks in the world. At a bare minimum, we should at least selective merge this to Sportsbook.4meter4 (talk) 06:20, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The linked sources says that it's one of the eight sources that make up the data that Sports Insights presents to their subscribers. There are far more than eight active sportsbooks in the world, and there certainly were back then as well. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 11:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete A passing mention in a 12 year old reliable source is insufficient to establish notabilty in 2024. Wikipedia should not be a guidebook to non-notable gambling websites that lack significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. Only notable entities should be mentioned in an article like Sportsbook, which is highly susceptible to spam and promotional editing. Cullen328 (talk) 10:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per nom. I was going to nominate this myself once the article was stable, but then I got busy with other things. Tessaract2^Hi! 13:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Spectre of Lanyon Moor

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fails WP:GNG unsourced since 2013 Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 07:03, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Here is one good source: [18].4meter4 (talk) 07:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This just seems to be a plot summary at a glance, which doesn't satisfy Wikipedia:ALLPLOT and Wikipedia:NOTPLOT issues. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 13:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Doctor Who: The Monthly Adventures#2000. No independent notability from the parent series. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 13:06, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Pokelego999. Someone might search this, but it's not notable in itself. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 07:08, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sandeep Johri

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References do not demonstrate significant coverage by multiple sources. Brandon (talk) 07:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shalabam

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Fails WP:NFILM. No reliable reviews from Rediff.com and Sify.com [19]. The only 2 reliable sources are passing mentions. DareshMohan (talk) 06:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of Malayalam films of 2008, a standard solution for articles about released films when cast is notable, content verifiable and the director and writer have no page. Preserves history and can be reverted if sources are found. Thanks (NB- the film is listed there).-Mushy Yank. 10:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. There is nothing in Google search result to show that this passes WP:NFILM. The two sources in the article gave just single mentions each and with nothing in search result, there is nothing to sustain it. Mekomo (talk) 10:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Malayalam films of 2008, as quoted by Mushy Yank...Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 17:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Sudheesh#2000s. Lots of evidence that the film exists. The other page List of Malayalam films of 2008 is poor with no sources and that is why redirect to actor's page is more better (imo). RangersRus (talk) 14:19, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ewomazino (name)

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No evidence of notability. The purpose of name indices is to disambiguate articles on people with the same name. With one person using it as a middle name, and one link to Wikidata (which shouldn't be there per Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 204#New RFC on linking to Wikidata), this doesn't serve that purpose. And it's completely unsourced. Part of WP:ANI#Nigerian name project * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. This is somewhat frustrating. I totally get we need WP:SIGCOV here if we aren't actually going to have a proper disambiguation or navigation page. At the same time, the ANI thread is heartbreaking because the Nigerian edit-a-thon is simply wanting the English wikipedia to include common Nigerian names in our coverage. It does feel a bit like us living up to our WP:SYSTEMICBIAS. I wonder if a List of Nigerian names page could be created instead of all these individual name pages that the project could work on together instead. We can then do a redirect of all these various pages to that list.4meter4 (talk) 05:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@4meter4: I came across this discussion just after opening Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uzemehefe (name). Would it be viable to start a bundled AfD or some other way to centralize the discussion of this? There's still a bunch of similar pages left in the new pages queue ... Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 21:31, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Creating List of Nigerian names or a similar title seems like it could be a good option. Then we'd at least have somewhere to redirect all the remaining pages. Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 21:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lord Bolingbroke I would suggest monitoring the discussion at WP:ANI#Nigerian name project. There are admins at ANI monitoring the situation, and there was some discussion at ANI about waiting to do a bundled AFD nomination until the proper moment. Best.4meter4 (talk) 23:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any Nigerian government sources that can verify that this is a "common Nigerian name"? Walsh90210 (talk) 23:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Annette Jones (architect)

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An orphan article. An unremarkable career that does not meet WP:ARCHITECT. Source 1 is merely a registration database, sources 3 and 5 are primary. LibStar (talk) 05:38, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Not seeing a notification of the creator, MurielMary, who might be able to explain why they believed notability requirements were met. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:33, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Passes criteria 4c of WP:CREATIVE and WP:SIGCOV per the source by Cox and Women in New Zealand Architecture: A Literature Review in Society of Architectural Historians, Australia and New Zealand. This latter journal highlights that Jones was specifically featured in prominent exhibitions in New Zealand women architects and was featured prominently in the November-December 1993 issue of Architecture New Zealand magazine.4meter4 (talk) 05:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep meets criteria 1 of the architect notability criteria: the person is regarded as an important figure, as evidenced by inclusion in Cox's work. MurielMary (talk) 08:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ivan Rijavec

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Marked for notability concerns since last year. Created by a single purpose editor. Limited google news hits, 2 of them being non-independent architecture press. 1 line mentions in google books. Fails WP:ARCHITECT. LibStar (talk) 05:21, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV per the offline sources already cited in the article. A WP:BEFORE shows there are tons of sources in google books, and a basic google search yielded articles like [20], [21], etc. Google scholar also had a biographical entry in an encyclopedia of Australian Architecture which you can accesss: http://hdl.handle.net/10536/DRO/DU:30041742 Best.4meter4 (talk) 06:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please tone it down a notch. LibStar (talk) 06:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For the sake of getting along, I redacted the comment that bothered you. I thought you might prefer that instead of striking it. Best.4meter4 (talk) 08:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not bolding a vote because there's two options here, as the vote is really "not this article as it is" - it's written very promotionally and in a completely non-encyclopedic tone. I'd either delete on WP:TNT grounds explicitly allowing re-creation, or completely strip the article down to nothing if it is kept. A WP:BEFORE search shows he is likely notable. SportingFlyer T·C 08:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete in the current form and rewrite on basis of WP:TNT because WP:BEFORE clearly proves notability.--A09|(talk) 16:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TNT.--WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC) An acceptable stub should be[reply]

Ivan Rijavec (born 1951)^[1] is a Slovenia born Australian architect. He studied at the Western Australian Institute of Technology in Perth.^[2] Rijavec was selected to be member of the team of Creative Directors for 2010 Venice Biennale of Architecture.^[3]

References

^ "Ivan RIJAVEC". Art Gallery of Western Australia. Retrieved 22 November 2024.
^ Lozanovska, Mirjana (1 January 2011). "Rijavec, Ivan". The encyclopedia of Australian architecture. Deakin University. Retrieved 22 November 2024.
^ "Creative Directors for 2010 Venice Architecture Biennale announced". Australian Design Review / News. web.archive.org. 3 February 2010.

I don't see that https://thefifthestate.com.au/articles/ivan-rijavec-in-bespoke-resi-offer-to-urban-greys-gay-greys-and-more/ or https://www.theage.com.au/national/daring-architect-eyes-acland-street-20031101-gdwnnk.html tell us anything about the architect. Reads like churnalism. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:27, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WomenArtistUpdates I stubified it with the text you provided per WP:BOLD. Would you consider changing your vote based on this change?4meter4 (talk) 05:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think people arguing for WP:TNT want the article history removed as well. LibStar (talk) 06:06, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really care about the history, to be honest. SportingFlyer T·C 08:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

National Association of Colleges and Employers

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Unsourced article from 2008 about a professional association. A WP:BEFORE search reveals scattered media, e.g. [22], covering the organization's annual jobs survey, but such coverage is not focused on the organization itself. Sdkb ^talk 05:12, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Raw ("Hopsin" album)

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Contested draft. Duplicate of Raw (Hopsin album) which was WP:BLARed last year due to a lack of notability. Pinging @QuietHere: the editor who performed the BLAR on the previous article. CycloneYoris ^talk! 04:53, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Hopsin discography. Lack of usable sources on the album. Ss112 14:36, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails WP:NALBUM. Raw (Hopsin album) already exists, so no need for a redirect. मल्ल (talk) 17:41, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Unlikely search term when properly formatted title already exists (if it is redirected then it should go to Hopsin#2010–2011: Success with Funk Volume and Raw to match with Raw (Hopsin album)'s current target). Shows no amount of notability more than the prior article did. Surprisingly, despite the ping, I appear not to have received a notification for this. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 01:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete since this was an attempt to sneak an unwanted article into Wikipedia - both by way of the strange title and the unilateral draftification. Geschichte (talk) 10:11, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Barak Rosen

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Fluff piece about non-notable businessperson. Cannot find any significant coverage of the article's subject, completely failing GNG. All sources in the article are about his company's acquisitions or incidental inclusion in lists of businesspeople. Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 03:53, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi user:Dan Leonard,

I have three big profile articles about Barak in Hebrew. Since he is Israeli, can I add them to the article? And will it suffice?

כבר לא שני מתווכים מרעננה: "הם רוצים להיות השחקנים הכי גדולים, רוזן מוכן להתאבד על עסקות" (דה מרקר)

https://www.themarker.com/realestate/2021-11-05/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/0000017f-e3c4-d9aa-afff-fbdcdc580000

הילדים הרעים של שוק הנדל"ן הכפילו את שוויים ב־2016 (כלכליסט)

https://www.calcalist.co.il/markets/articles/0,7340,L-3706754,00.html

הכל בכל מקום בבת אחת (כלכליסט)

https://newmedia.calcalist.co.il/magazine-12-05-22/m01.html

עידו כ.ש. (talk) 05:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If the sources pass WP:SIGCOV then they might be acceptable; however, it's worth noting that an article on Rosen has been repeatedly deleted on the Hebrew Wikipedia and is now salted. Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 19:44, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe they do comply. And I’m aware that the Hebrew article was deleted before, but it was done years before most of the coverage about him was published, he also gained more reputation since. Moreover the articles were written very poorly, I believe that if they’ve written them properly that article would stay up. Many businessmen with much smaller significance have articles about them in addition to their company, so the only reason I can imagine Rosen’s article caught attention was the writing’s quality. I might invest in a more appropriate Hebrew article for him soon. עידו כ.ש. (talk) 15:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep. It's hard to judge on these foreign language sources because some of them are behind paywalls. The ones I can see look like they do. I'm inclined to just WP:AGF the foreign language sources behind pay walls and trust that they are accurately reported as containing WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 05:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:AGF doesn't apply to " I'm inclined to just WP:AGF the foreign language sources behind pay walls". LibStar (talk) 06:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There was a topic of Barak Rosen in Hebrew Wikipedia and this topic was deleted because there was no encyclopedic value. IdanST (talk) 10:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alan White (DJ)

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Advertorialized WP:BLP of a radio DJ and a spinoff article about his purported "television show" that may or may not ever have actually existed, with neither article properly referenced as having any strong claim to passing inclusion criteria for media personalities or their shows.
As always, broadcasters are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to show evidence of WP:GNG-worthy third party coverage and analysis about them to establish that they've been externally validated as significant by somebody other than their own public relations agent -- but the BLP is "referenced" to one deadlinked unreliable source, one discogs.com directory entry about somebody else who isn't Alan White and one glancing namecheck of Alan White's existence in a newspaper obituary of somebody else who also isn't Alan White, absolutely none of which constitutes support for the notability of Alan White.
And meanwhile, the "television show" article is actually serving primarily as a coatrack for a largely reduplicated summary of the BLP, and not actually saying even one word at all about a "television show" until the very end, when it finally reveals that the "television show" that's posing as the article's nominal subject is "currently in pre-production" -- except it's said that since the day the article was created in 2011, and the article has never been updated since then with any evidence that the show ever actually started airing. And it's also based entirely on unreliable sources that aren't support for notability, with absolutely no GNG-worthy coverage about either Alan White or the "show" present there either.
Nothing stated in either article is "inherently" notable without GNG-worthy sourcing for it. Bearcat (talk) 05:08, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I'm getting a headache on this one trying to locate sources. Too many people named "Alan White", and several active in music.4meter4 (talk) 05:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Daveed (2025 film)

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Unreleased film, nothing especially notable about the production, therefore does not meet WP:NFILM, specifically WP:NFF, as an as yet unreleased film. Should have remained in draft space but has been moved back to main space, so deletion is required. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 17:55, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I can see many upcoming movie articles on Wikipedia, and as an editor who enjoys creating and editing movie articles, I’m particularly focused on the Indian film industry. My goal is to reach 10,000 edits and become a strong contributor to Wikipedia. Recently, I encountered a deletion nomination for an article on an upcoming film, even though its release date has been announced. I removed the "unreleased" category and added the "upcoming films" category since the shoot and post-production are complete. I’ve verified all the data through news articles, and everything seems accurate. This is the first time I've faced a deletion nomination for a film article, and I’m feeling a bit helpless. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Arjusreenivas (talk) 18:14, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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And regarding the notbaility of prodcution, The film was distributed by Century Films which is the distributer of Malaikottai Vaaliban, Perumani and John Luther etc. These are the details I got from the producers social handles. Arjusreenivas (talk) 18:30, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Notability" would rather be established through sources independent of the subject. (Not saying that what you are saying is not true nor that it is not interesting) Mushy Yank (talk) 22:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Thank you for your Participation in this Discussion, Please Check sources, I think the article have more than enough sources. Arjusreenivas (talk) 03:07, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing about the production, as stated, is notable. Everything is very, very standard. WP:NFF is clear: Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines. Basically, you should not be creating articles in main article space about the vast majority of films that have not yet released. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, This article covers a film that's set to release in the next two months. Regarding production details, I can only reference publicly available news articles and interviews. Given the popularity of this film in India, I believe many people here are already aware of its production background. I kindly request someone from India to assess the notability of this article, especially regarding its production and other key details.

I welcome everyone to expand the article and contribute with verified information. I’m also sharing data I’ve gathered from media sources to help make this a comprehensive and accurate article. Please feel free to edit for clarity, correct any English errors, and improve. Arjusreenivas (talk) 11:14, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Antony_Varghese#Films: listed there; given existing coverage, the fact that filming is wrapped, the cast, notable and details about productions are verifiable, I am not opposed to Keep if other users agree it can be kept (opposed to deletion, not necessary in the present case). Mushy Yank (talk) 22:50, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Mushy Yank. Yes, I believe this article is relevant to keep on Wikipedia because the release date has been announced, and the film has already wrapped. Therefore, deletion would not be the right decision. Thank you for your comment. Arjusreenivas (talk) 03:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect would be fine, until the film has released. I mean, draftifying would have worked, too, but... Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 15:04, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, The article meets 4 out of 5 of the WP:NFF production guidelines. Enough information is available to support article. Also it can be classified under the "2025 films, Upcoming films, Upcoming Malayalam-language films" category. Arjusreenivas (talk) 15:42, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What "5 production guidelines" are you talking about? There is nothing unclear about WP:NFF: films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let me finish the sentence you're referring to, as it seems you might have missed it. The guideline states: "films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines." Out of the five guidelines of production: Development, Pre-production, Production, Post-production—four have been covered. The only stage not fully met is Distribution. That's why 4 out of 5 criteria for an unreleased film to qualify for an article have been fulfilled. — MimsMENTOR ^talk 21:51, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The film has successfully completed its production phase, and reliable sources confirm that it is currently in the post-production and marketing stages, with only the final release pending. The project meets 4 out of 5 of the WP:NFF production guidelines. Sufficient information is available to justify an independent article, and it can be classified under the "2025 films, Upcoming films, Upcoming Malayalam-language films" category.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 07:35, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your input. I believe there are no notability issues with this article, so it should be retained. From my review, the movie is scheduled for release in two months, and it’s not from a new production or featuring unknown actors. Thank you for your contribution. Arjusreenivas (talk) 15:38, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - We have the typical general announcements, churnalism, NEWSORGINDIA, etc., but no significant coverage such as bylined reviews. Nothing notable about production. Draftify would be a good WP:ATD. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. The article was draftified once, and so shouldn't be draftified again, but WP:IAR. The danger, of course, is that it would just be moved back to article space again. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, really don’t see why we wouldn’t. Has a release date. Hyperbolick (talk) 09:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abdul Hannan Masud

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Sources do not show in-depth coverage needed for WP:GNG. Vinegarymass911 (talk) 02:47, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment This needs a review by Bengali-speaking editors. Several sources do not appear to mention the subject, but are used to support statements about him. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The article is in development, and the person is worth notable. Need some time to add citations. Ahammed Saad (talk) 16:14, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: as per @Ahammed Saad Bruno 🌹 (talk) 17:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I've read the entire article. In the second paragraph of the beginning, a statement by Abdul Hannan Masud (the subject of the article) from a Facebook video has been slightly modified and cited with a Facebook link. Again, what is written about the person in the third paragraph is not supported by the referenced news link. The news link discusses his speech. In the Early Life and Education section, several links are cited, which are inconsistent. In the Activism section, although some references align, a lot of personal opinions have been used. C⚛smLearner ^💬🔬 18:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typical of cite bombs. I will withdraw my nomination if the creator can present three in-depth coverage from reliable sources.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 19:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Sohan61 it would be very helpful if you could translate the title of each source that isn't in English and set the trans-title attribute of the citation template accordingly. Please also set the website= attribute with the English name of each source website, so we can more easily see what these citations are. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Radwell

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Fails WP:GNG. Most of the sources are about his company, Canouflet, with few pass mentioned in some journals. Ibjaja055 (talk) 03:23, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi lbjaja055,

Thank you for your careful review and dedication to Wikipedia’s standards. I do want to acknowledge this is my first attempt at creating a biography for a living person, so I may not be fully versed in all nuances of the guidelines. However, I’m committed to refining the page to meet the standards set by WP and would welcome any guidance on improvements. I do respectfully disagree with the proposed deletion and would like to clarify the sources used and their relevance.

The assertion that “most of the sources are about his company” is not entirely accurate. While there are a few references to his company, Camouflet, they represent a minority of the sources and were included primarily because they are recent publications. The majority of references come from reputable scientific journals and independent media outlets that focus on his personal contributions to the field, particularly his pioneering research during the COVID-19 pandemic.

These sources highlight his impactful discoveries and advancements, which have had a verifiable influence on public health and scientific understanding during a critical time. His work meets the notability criteria outlined in WP

through these reliable, independent publications, which underscore his standing in the scientific community and the lasting significance of his contributions.

I hope this clarification provides a fuller picture of the subject’s notability, independent of his company, and trust it will support reconsideration of the deletion proposal. Thank you again for your commitment to maintaining Wikipedia's high standards. Stichodactyla (talk) 19:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments: 3 of the sources cited (3, 6, and 10) are basically press releases. Some of the others are either primary sources or more directly about the company, with only a passing mention of him. Bearian (talk) 03:53, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Bearian,

Thank you for your review and for bringing up these concerns. I've removed the majority of sources that seemed like press releases. There are, however, additional independent, reliable sources. I'm committed to editing, including re-evaluating cited sources and removing or reworking content that may appear overly promotional. Stichodactyla (talk) 02:06, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The references appear to be about topics separate from the subject, as stated above. I was unable to find additional references. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 15:09, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hewa S. Khalid

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As far as I can see, there isn't a single secondary reliable source independent from the subject to count towards the subject's wikinotability (actually, most if not all of the sources were created by the subject). Can't find a passing criteria from WP:NACADEMIC nor any significant independent coverage for WP:GNG. Aintabli (talk) 01:58, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is also an apparent WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY, and it was previously tagged as such before its prompt removal by the article creator. Aintabli (talk) 02:12, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I do not believe that the subject meets WP:PROF at this time per GS profile,[23] though perhaps someone more familiar with Kurdish studies could comment. Espresso Addict (talk) 02:56, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Neither his Google Scholar profile linked above nor his employer academic profile [24] give me any reason to believe he passes WP:PROF, and as a recent PhD (2019) this is in any case unlikely. It's not a subject I have much familiarity with so I could easily have missed something, but we can't keep an article based on nothing but speculation. —David Eppstein (talk) 08:31, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marshall James

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 18:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: as a former WDF World Championship runner-up and World Masters semi-finalist, there appears to be a great deal of significant coverage of the subject in Welsh (Llanelli Star, South Wales Echo) and other (Liverpool Echo, Aberdeen Evening Express) papers, but a lot of it is hidden behind a paywall. If I can get access to these papers later in the week I'll assess the coverage and update my vote; if anyone else has access to them it may be worth a look. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 18:52, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Registering a keep vote in light of the below comment, but will update further if I get granted access to the newspaper archive for the aforementioned articles. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 21:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Significant coverage here and although my BNA access has expired, here's a story titled "Top of the World: Marshall James", which is almost certainly sigcov. He was second-best at the world championships! BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:01, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is a six paragraph article that summarises a six year career really "significant coverage"? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 21:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is a 300+ word article on the then-second-best darts player in the world, as well as what appears to be a feature on 'Top of the World: Marshall James', count for notability? Of course it does. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You keep describing him as being the "second-best darts player in the world" and this is just categorically not true. Are you seriously suggesting he was better than Phil Taylor? Two articles do not make significant coverage, especially when one of which you have admitted you have no idea what it even is. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 23:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You keep describing him as being the "second-best darts player in the world" and this is just categorically not true. – I'll admit I'm not super familiar with darts, but didn't James finish as the runner-up at the World Championships? Wouldn't being runner-up at the World Championships be second best in the world? And two articles can absolutely be significant coverage; the general notability guideline says that's all that's required for notability (two pieces of coverage). What do you think the odds are that a story titled, "Top of the World: Marshall James", is not significant coverage? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:11, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He finished runner-up at a (not the) World Championship and then proceeded to do absolutely nothing of note ever again. Does a darts player from Llanelli having potentially one article in a Llanelli newspaper, and a six paragraph article on a darts website, really count for notability? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 00:00, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Does having significant coverage from two independent outlets for a runner-up at a World Darts Championship count for notability? Absolutely if you go by GNG, which only requires two significant sources. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, to keep up-to-date. That's one "significant" source. And one source you freely admit you haven't read. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 00:37, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We're allowed to use common sense. The odds that both the 'Top of the World' source is insignificant and that there's no further coverage of him anywhere is incredibly small, especially given that Ser! has found paywalled articles in four additional newspapers. That you're unable to answer whether you've done any sort of WP:BEFORE search at all for over one hundred darts articles you've rapidly nominated or proposed for deletion is concerning as well. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:04, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nice personal attack there. Not content with doing it on my own talk page you now choose to do it here too! All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 01:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pointing out that you've refused on three occasions to answer the basic question of whether or not you've done a BEFORE search is not a personal attack... BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You assuming that I haven't, and constantly repeating the claim, is a personal attack. What on earth makes you think I haven't? Because you found that the British library has an article in the Llanelli Post about him from 27 years ago? 🤣 All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 09:02, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ItsKesha: What on earth makes you think I haven't? – because I asked "Are you doing any sort of WP:BEFORE search at all?" – and you responded that the articles are old, and then I asked "Are you doing any sort of WP:BEFORE search at all?" – and you responded that I need to AGF – and then I asked "Are you doing any sort of WP:BEFORE search at all?" – and you told me to get off your talk page – and then here you called it a personal attack, and when asked ... you responded that "What on earth makes you think I haven't? 🤣" – this absolute refusal to answer the question while nominating / proposing hundreds of articles for deletion is disruptive. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK 👍 All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 01:14, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is the entirety of the BNA article, content on James bolded:
[D]arts ace Marshall James added another trophy to his impressive collection recently - after winning a world championship. Marshall was a member of the Wales short man squad that won the world championship in Perth, Sydney, recently. Another player from the area Eric Burden was also in the side with the others being Sean Palfrey of Newport and Martin Phillips from North Wales. With 35 countries taking part Wales beat a star studded England side in final by nine legs to six. Wales came away with three gold medals and one bronze. Marshall lost in the semi-final of the Embassy Gold Cup singles on Saturday to world number 1 Mervin King 2-1. Another Welsh player Shaun [sic] Palfrey went on to take the title beating King 2-0 in the final. Marshall was recognized for his achievement this week when he was chosen as winner of the Walter Hughes Cup, one of the Brin Isaac Memorial Fund awards.

I'm not convinced ~4 sentences in an un-bylined hyper-local blurb announcing his darts competition results for that week counts toward GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 18:15, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral - My main concern here is that DartsNews is not obviously a reliable source and some work needs to be done to establish whether it is or isn't. My real sticking point on any bio article is "can we write a reliably-sourced encyclopaedia article, and not simply a database-entry, about the subject", and if Dartsnews is reliable then probably we can. BeanieFan11 - any views on this? FOARP (talk) 10:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I really need to figure out how to get re-subscribed to the BNA; there appeared to be a decent bit of coverage there (highly likely enough to write a reliably-sourced encyclopaedia article, and not simply a database-entry, about the subject, I'd say)... As for Dartsnews, they appear to have an editing staff. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep - Mostly just on AGF, give-keep-a-chance grounds. DartsNews gives sigcov but feels like a peripheral source even if it is a WP:NEWSORG. There is no BIO equivalent of WP:AUD and local coverage shouldn't be excluded entirely, so I see no reason to dismiss coverage just because it was in a Llanelli newspaper, but it is also borderline for WP:SIGCOV. The real question for me is "can we have an article that isn't just sports-stats", and we just about can. Since the internet archive is now working again (albeit slow) I did a little search there and I see that, except for mentioning him a couple of times when discussing other players, he isn't listed in this book about the top 50 darts players, so I think that safely answers the question of how great this guy was. FOARP (talk) 22:33, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: There's a Welsh rugby player with the same name... I don't see anything about a darts player. The few sources given in the comments above aren't extensive coverage. I don't think we have enough to use for an article. Oaktree b (talk) 02:06, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Right, a follow-up on these sources: I've found a good few articles about him in Welsh newspapers - South Wales Echo, Llanelli Star, longer piece in the Llanelli Star about subject, coverage of him being fined as a pub landlord - not really related to darts but it does describe him reaching "national fame" and it's hard to think a random unnotable would get this exact coverage, article in same paper about him getting a new manager, South Wales Evening Post covering a match he played in (more than WP:ROUTINE as it goes in more depth than just the results and interviews the subject), further coverage in same paper of his World Championship run, and then a few profiles/further mentions in the context of his time playing in the World Championships. Add to that the DartsNews article above and I think there's well enough coverage to justify us having an article on a former world championship runner up. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 09:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Music & the Spoken Word broadcasts

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Unreferenced list of unclear utility. This is an episode list of a radio and television music performance show in which the Mormon Tabernacle Choir (always the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, never anybody else) performs religious music along with an inspirational/religious sermon -- but this list just goes "broadcast number, date, recording location, title of sermon, production code, the end", with many entries not even containing all of those details, and right across the board even the recording location is always one or the other of two facilities in Salt Lake City, and never anywhere else.
There's no information at all that would actually be useful, such as the titles of any specific songs that were performed in the episode or a detailed summary of the sermon's theme — so there's effectively nothing of any serious substance said about any of the episodes to differentiate one from another. All of which renders it into a list of meaningless and trivial information, and it's also completely unreferenced for the purposes of actually verifying even what little information is here.
There's just no value to this without a lot more information about each episode and actual referencing for it. Bearcat (talk) 04:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nallam Venkataramayya

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Last AfD was no consensus. An orphan article created by a single purpose editor. A search for sources yielded nothing in google news. and 1 small mention in google books (3 other hits that I can't verify). Fails WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 04:23, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Passes first criteria of WP:ANYBIO as recipient of the Legion of Honour (highest honor in France equivalent to the Order of the British Empire in the UK or the Congressional Gold Medal in the United States).4meter4 (talk) 04:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vine, Indiana

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Another "Baker calls it a village and there was a post office but there's nothing there" spot. Searching turned up nothing but considering I had to add the county just to get rid of the Indiana VINE system, I'm hardly confident. Mangoe (talk) 03:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:GEOLAND as a formerly populated place.4meter4 (talk) 03:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning delete, as it is not clear that there is evidence of such a place ever having existed. If it did, then the location is now subsumed in Attica, Indiana (which is the city address given for the cemetery now located at the geographic coordinates given for Vine). BD2412 T 03:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete due to WP:V problems. Where does it say it was a populated place? Geschichte (talk) 10:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete "formerly populated place" is not a basis for notability even if these were actually supported by sources – it would have to be officially recognized, which a short-lived post office does not do. Reywas92^Talk 14:27, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Reywas92: I would not be averse to a merge and redirect (of what little content there is) to Attica, Indiana, per WP:ATD. The geocoordinates now basically resolve to a "Vine Street", which is all the remnant left of there ever having been something broader under the name. BD2412 T 17:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IWI Galil Sniper

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I previously redirected the page to IMI Galil based on NPP guidelines, but the creator has expressed some concerns. I still think it’s just a variant of the Galil and doesn’t need its own page. WP:REDUNDANTFORK Charlie (talk) 03:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to IMI Galil#Variants#Galil Sniper. Seems like this weapon is already covered in that article under its own subheading.4meter4 (talk) 03:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to or merge with IMI Galil. I know nothing about these weapons, and maybe don't need to. The older (2002) IMI Galil has 20069 characters (3284 words) "readable prose size" and 77 sources. The newer (2024) IWI Galil Sniper has 1736 characters (292 words) "readable prose size" and only two sources, both of which are in the lead. Assuming the 2024 IWI Galil Sniper is accurate in content and sourcing, redirect to, or merge into, the 2002 IMI Galil. — Maile (talk) 04:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. I am the topic creator, and before I explain why this topic should be kept, I want to thank Charlie for initiating this AfD proposal to determine whether there is a consensus to delete this topic. Regarding this thread, the IWI Galil Sniper is based on the IMI Galil#Galil ARM variation which itself is a variation of the IMI Galil. The IMI Galil is a 5.56×45mm NATO and 7.62×51mm NATO assault rifle, whereas the IWI Galil Sniper serves a completely different combat role as a 7.62×51mm NATO sniper rifle. Since the IWI Galil Sniper fulfills a distinct role and is derived, not variant, as it has different weight, parts and combat role, there is encyclopedic value in having a dedicated topic for it, similar to the treatment in Galil Sniper[he], and that's why I translated it into the English Wikipedia, adhering to the guidelines outlined in WP:Translation (I'm also registered in WP:TRLA). IdanST (talk) 09:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just because there's an article on certain topic on he.wiki doesn’t mean we have to create one on en.wiki, as en.wiki might have different standards for article creation than he.wiki. Ckfasdf (talk) 02:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect or merge with the main Galil article. There simply aren't enough differences between this weapon and the base platform in my view to require a separate article. Intothat darkness 14:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to IMI Galil#Galil Sniper. The main content of this article is already covered in IMI Galil#Galil Sniper, making it a clear case of WP:REDUNDANTFORK. Also, this article only cites two sources: one is the official website (a primary source that cannot be used to establish notability), and the other is snipercentral.com, which is likely non-RS. Ckfasdf (talk) 02:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Special Assistance Resource Teacher

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Renominating as last AfD was no consensus. No significant coverage in gnews, gbooks and Australian database Trove. Most of the sources are primary like minister's announcements and government sources. LibStar (talk) 22:47, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. In addition to the offline sources in the article and the additional materials provided in the first AFD, there is some significant coverage in this journal article: [25]. I'm also seeing a bunch of Australian education journals and magazines covering the topic in 1980s publications in google books, but they are only available in snippet view. From what I have been able to find, this seems like it was a major education initiative in the 1980s in Australia with a thousand teaching positions created under this title and an associated training program in order to work in that position. Seems like a notable topic.4meter4 (talk) 03:23, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge this overlaps too substantially with Special Assistance Program (Australian education) to have two separate articles; both talk about the program and teacher roles/trainings in the program. Walsh90210 (talk) 20:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

High Commission of Malaysia, London

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Article based on a primary source and directory listing. No third party coverage to meet WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 22:44, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails WP:GNG. Diplomatic premises are rarely individually notable. AusLondonder (talk) 12:49, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of diplomatic missions in London#Embassies and High Commissions in London where it is mentioned, as has been done for every other non-notable embassy and high commission in London brought to AfD or PROD. Thryduulf (talk) 14:51, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Malaysia–United Kingdom relations. @Thryduulf the embassy is also on the List of diplomatic missions of Malaysia. I think we could actually save all the content on the relations page as a merge target which would be better than redirecting to one of several possible list pages. 4meter4 (talk) 03:29, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Embassy of Malaysia, The Hague

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Based on primary sources. A google news search only yields the primary source of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Malaysia. Fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 22:40, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Malaysia–Netherlands relations#Diplomacy per WP:ATD. The Embassy would reasonably be covered in that article.4meter4 (talk) 03:33, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge as above, the usual solution for articles on non-notable embassies. Mangoe (talk) 03:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Go-back

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Unsourced since creation in 2006. This is a WP:DICDEF/neologism issue; I don't see any reasonable way to expand this beyond a dicdef. Hog Farm _Talk 02:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I wonder if this can be merged (or redirected) somewhere. BD2412 T 03:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV. I don't doubt this is a widely used slang term in retail for loose merchandise. Unfortunately, it isn't one that is covered in any reliable sources that I can find. Even if we found a redirect or merge target, I don't think there is anything here worth saving. On a side note, I did find this Glossary of Purchasing and Supply Chain Management and this book had a Short Retail Glossary inside it. If we were to cover this it would be within a Glossary of retail terminology page because we can include dic-def topics on those pages per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Glossaries. Best.4meter4 (talk) 04:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PageRank algorithm in biochemistry

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Most of the content on this page is redundant to material on PageRank, including a confusing and incomplete explanation of how PageRank works. It also hasn't had any meaningful updates since 2014. I get the impression that some people suggested applying PageRank to biochemistry but it wasn't widely accepted. I also question if the original page creator, which has only edited this article, was associated with any authors of the referenced papers.

I don't think the potential applications of PageRank to biochemistry are notable enough for its own page. I did suggest a merge at Talk:PageRank § Merge PageRank algorithm in biochemistry but it was inconclusive and somebody suggested I AfD it instead, so here we are. Apocheir (talk) 02:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep A basic google search has a large number of scholarly publications on the applications of the PageRank algorithm that are specific to biochemistry. It clearly is a topic that passes WP:SIGCOV. Any issues of redundancy or poor explanation can be solved through editing, but I definitely think that it is a reasonable WP:Content fork in this instance.4meter4 (talk) 04:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per TNT anyway. Most of the references don't refer to PageRank or are deceased. The article as it stands is a barely-comprehensible summary of a single, very narrow application within biochemistry, and doesn't fulfill the promise of its title. It's possible someone could write an article based on 4meter4's search, but they'd have to start from scratch and almost nothing in the existing article would be of any use to them. This is a classic example of the Wikipedia articlee driven by someone's understandable excitement about a single primary literature reference. Elemimele (talk) 10:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Most of the sources I could find are primary, and all sources cited in the article are either primary or irrelevant (except ref. 4), mostly dating from right before this article's creation. There is no WP:LASTING coverage that we would expect from a notable topic; like Elemimele said, all signs point to someone creating an article about a topic they thought would turn out to be important, only to abandon it. People think up new computational tricks every single day, and many of them end up published; most are forgotten as technology and data evolve. We don't need to immortalize them all. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:10, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The content of the article reads like an essay and contains speculative claims (e.g. "A PageRank-based algorithm could identify important protein targets ...") which are inappropriate for an encyclopedia. Someone did a "basic Google search" above and found lots of WP: GOOGLEHITS, but that's sloppy work. They didn't actually identify any specific sources. And, even if someone comes forth with sources, cleaning this article up would amount to blanking the page, so WP: TNT applies here. HyperAccelerated (talk) 17:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rural tourism of Paraguay

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Only 1 source in 16 years of article existence. Anything relevant can be put into Tourism in Paraguay. Fails GNG. LibStar (talk) 01:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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delete If nothing else, it reads like a travel guide, not an encyclopedia article. Mangoe (talk) 03:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Selective merge to Tourism in Paraguay per WP:ATD. I'm seeing travel guides for Paraguay name dropping the term (one example [26]), and even an encyclopedia in Paraguay briefly saying it is an important part of the country's economy in certain places (see [27]) but without elaborating. It's clearly a topic that could be covered, but might be better done in the parent article.4meter4 (talk) 04:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Tourism in Paraguay as suggested by 4meter4 and nom. My initial impression was that it was salvageable with sourcing, but it isn't the case. Coeusin (talk) 05:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to the parent article per 4meter4 and Coeusin. Miniapolis 02:04, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Farid Azmi

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Played a total of 11 minutes in Malaysia's top tier football league. BEFORE search shows nothing. Does not pass WP:GNG. Kline • talk • contribs 01:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 04:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete, does not present a credible claim to significance or notability. Geschichte (talk) 10:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Doesn't pass any notability guidelines. Mekomo (talk) 10:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zazrir Naim

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Played a total of 103 minutes in the top tier of Malaysia football over 3 years. A check for sources found 2 articles total, only mentioning him in passing mention. Does not pass WP:GNG. Kline • talk • contribs 00:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 04:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Doesn't pass WP:SPORTSBASIC or WP:GNG. Mekomo (talk) 10:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MotaWord

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No indication of notability per WP:NCORP. All sources found are press releases or clearly unreliable, and additional searching on the topic found nothing that shows clear notability. Cutlass ^Ciera 00:43, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:ORGCRIT. Not finding any significant independent coverage on this company. If anyone can, ping me.4meter4 (talk) 04:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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delete, no reliable independent sources to prove company's notability. James Tensky (talk) 09:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:NORG guidelines. Some of the sources are primary and the two that are academic work are not enough to pass notability. Mekomo (talk) 10:58, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moroccan General Labour Union

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Fails WP:GNG/WP:NPROFIT. Cannot find any sourcing that confirms the existence of this trade union other than Facebook. Appears to be a single person as acting as a union. Referred to in a number of locations as "Union générale marocaine du travail" (for example, this Danish trade union report on Morocco, but which cites French Wikipedia as source). I also see some reports referencing the French name, but this has been confused with the long establised UGTM (Union générale des travailleurs du Maroc). I've not been able to do an extensive search in Arabic, but French and English draw blanks. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 00:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Does the organization possibly have a foreign language name(s) that it uses? There are many languages spoken in Morroco with English not being the predominant language. My guess is that locating sources would be under a foreign language title...4meter4 (talk) 04:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All Moroccan unions use Arabic and French. The name in Arabic is: الاتحاد العام المغربي للشغل Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 21:20, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I’ve searched in French and Arabic for the union and its founder. Nothing about the founder, plenty about other unions with similar titles, but nothing about this one. Mccapra (talk) 17:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

btw the UGMT referred to in the Danish report is not the same body. That was founded in 1960 and is notable. Mccapra (talk) 17:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, see page 31 of the Ulandssekretariatet report, citing French Wiki, last entry on the table, it's referring to the UGMT, not the UGTM. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 19:38, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trivitron Health Care

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Draft was declined [28] multiple times but still moved into mainspace.

Unclear if there's enough for WP:NCORP. KH-1 (talk) 00:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV/WP:NCORP from the sources in the article.4meter4 (talk) 04:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. The sources in article are loud and clear that this fails WP:NORG. All primary sources, not a single secondary source in it. Mekomo (talk) 11:04, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails [WP:NORG]. ThatIPEditor ^{Talk · Contribs} 09:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Raw

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 00:21, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete He gets some passing mentions in a book on USA Darts, but not WP:SIGCOV. All I found outside of google books was hits on darts fan pages. Fails WP:BASIC.4meter4 (talk) 04:56, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Shaun Narain

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 00:20, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC. He gets some passing mentions in a darts book by Nigel Boeg, and has the standard pages on DartsWDF and mastercaller (none of which can be used towards notability) but that is about it.4meter4 (talk) 04:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Geoff Wylie

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 00:19, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There is some nice personal content on Wylie in Bobby George's biography because they are friends, but this really can't be used towards WP:SIGCOV due to the nature of the material. Otherwise not really finding anything other than the standard sports statistics stuff. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 05:08, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Graham Filby

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 00:19, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I was unable to locate any WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 05:11, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Nothing on the subject to pass GNG -- Robertjamal12 ~🔔 14:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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[Deakin-2] Lozanovska, Mirjana (1 January 2011). "Rijavec, Ivan". The encyclopedia of Australian architecture. Deakin University. Retrieved 22 November 2024.

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