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On 24 April 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to 1904 Olympics. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

On 9 February 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to 1904 Olympics. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

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Where is the medal of Albert Coray from France found in Athletics at the 1904 Summer Olympics in the medals' list ? Khardan 12:59, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

probably as part of the Mixed Team, but I can't confirm that (France did not enter these games as a nation). :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)} 10:08, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

First Gold?

As the first Olympic Gold medals were won here I wonder who was the first Gold medalist.German.Knowitall (talk) 15:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nations?

What are the 12 nations that the IOC attributes to these Games? In addition to the nine NOCs that won medals (USA, GER, CUB, CAN, HUN, GBR, GRE, SUI and AUT), what are the other three? Obviously, national teams as we know them today didn't exist, so they are just going by nationality. One report [1] calls Albert Coray in the marathon a "Frenchman, wearing the colors of the Chicago Athletic Association" (page 49), so I would add FRA. (Curiously, the IOC results database shows Coray in the marathon as from USA, but as part of a Mixed Team medal for the 4 mile team race...) The text also mentions South Africa in several spots, so that leaves 1 nation unaccounted for. Any other resouces have an answer? 01:39, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

We have a reliable source to support the inclusion of Italy as one more nation taking part of the 1904 games. The Historical Dictionary of the Olympic Movement [2] (dated 2011) states "In 2009, Olympic historians discovered that Olympic cyclist Frank Bizzoni was still an Italian citizen when he competed in 1904." I think we've got plenty of evidences to believe this book [3] has a solid background. According to the book profile, Jeroen Heijmans, co-author of the book, is a member of the International Society of Olympic Historians.

Plagiarism???

parts of this story are stolen from http://home.nycap.rr.com/useless/st_louis_olympics/index.html or vise versa. Rm999

NPOV, tone

From the article:

The sheer bombastic arrogance of David Francis, the President of the Louisiana Purchase Exposition, was engraved in history for all the world to see when he declined to invite anybody else to open the Games and, on July 1st, did so himself in a scaled-down short and humdrum 'ceremony'

I don't mean to dispute that this is true but the language is hardly NPOV and without a source it needs to be toned down. EconomicsGuy (talk) 09:09, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Combined World's Fair/Olympics

I think combining the two events into one is a great idea. Why doesn't it happen more often?74.100.60.53 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Better reference for the Chicago claim?

The reference cited [3] does not support the claim that Chicago was originally awarded the 1904 Olympiad. It just says there was a meeting in Chicago. Is there another reference that could be used? Otherwise, this may just be after-the-fact lore from the bigger city of Chicago widely disseminated as truth.

ZGare (talk) 18:45, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Water Polo

Unlike what is stated in the article, it looks like the official Olympics website lists Water Polo as an Olympic sport in the 1904 Olympics. Thanks, The coffee machine (talk) 12:05, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Currently the International Swimming Federation (FINA) consider water polo event as part of unofficial program in 1904. Source: HistoFINA – Water polo medalists and statistics (last updated in September 2019)

*1904 – Only USA clubs were present. These results will not appear in statistics (page 5)
All titles – 26, without 1904 – have been won by European teams (page 6)

So we still have to wait and see. --Phikia (talk) 03:07, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the FINA reference. So at least for now, water polo medals from 1904 Olympics are not counted in medal statistics by FINA, but it does appear as an Olympic event in the IOC official website. I think the article should reflect this status correctly. Thanks, The coffee machine (talk) 16:47, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Marathon

I notice nowhere in this article is the Marathon mentioned. It is a very peculiar part of Olympic History.

At least three participants nearly died; a runner who had dropped out nearly accepted the gold medal fraudulently; organizers withheld water and forbid support crews from giving runners water in order to test a pseudoscientific hypothesis on hydration

I would argue it deserves its own section if not its own article. 70.67.45.201 (talk) 23:48, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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