Talk:Philly Special

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This page should not be deleted

The person who calls for this page to be deleted is wrong. The Eagles would not have won the Super Bowl without this play. Further, it shows Coach Doug Pederson's aggressiveness and how it won him a Super Bowl. Aggressiveness is going to become more common in the league as a result of this play, which has been noted by many NFL experts. Also, the filing of a trademark by 8 different groups including the Philadelphia Eagles, shows that this is very notable. Also, plays that changed a game, like this one including the "Minneapolis Miracle", "Immaculate Reception" and "Miracle at the Meadowlands" all have Wikipedias. While they did not have a direct play on the rulebook they had a direct impact on the league. Finally, the controversy following this play makes it worthy of an article. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 23:22, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for all your help expanding the page! Here's hoping it survives AFD. Though it seems every single play I've seen has gone through an AFD in its early days. Gatemansgc (TɅ̊LK) 04:29, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction

The intro needs some editing to bring it in line with WP:NPOV. Specifically, the last paragraph:

"It was a play that the Eagles had never called before, run by an undrafted rookie running back pitching the football to a third-string tight end who had never attempted an NFL pass before, throwing to a backup quarterback who had never caught an NFL (or college) pass before, and they pulled it off on the biggest stage for football."

Really needs some work. The content (the unexpected nature of the play and players on the biggest stage) is worthy of inclusion (at least IMO), and it's discussed by independent sources, but the current phrasing reads like an inspiring Philly fan editorial, not an even-keeled encyclopedia entry. Staxringold _talk^contribs 21:24, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The sources are videos (I don't feel like watching), it sounds like something that was ripped directly from video commentary without paraphrasing (aka copyvio). Can someone check this? Gatemansgc (TɅ̊LK) 18:49, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Make a "Similar Plays" section?

As a similar Philly Philly play was used in the home opener, with everyone being open to doing this again, perhaps that should be split from the "Aftermath" section? It could also describe the play used by the Patriots that the opening day Philly Philly was based off of, for comparison purposes? Gatemansgc (TɅ̊LK) 20:11, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the "controversy"

I have no dog in the fight - I'm a Bengals fan. However, I don't think we should include manufactured controversies, especially those that unfairly throw shade on officials. Basically EVERY football play can be nitpicked; fans can find a controversy anywhere. This in no way seems noteworthy enough to include. It sorta reminds me of all those Pennsylvania votes that surely were counted wrong. :-) Moishe Rosenbaum (talk) 20:39, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Main reason I restored the section is that it doesn't appear to be a "manufactured controversy" in my opinion. The controversy had achieved enough notability that Mike Pereira actually commented on it. That, on its own, warrants the inclusion of this section. I actually came back to read this article and I found myself wondering where the section about the controversy went, and I'm sure to many others the controversy regarding this trick play is noteworthy. Apoorv Chauhan (talk) 09:42, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Meh, I disagree that the controversy is anywhere near relevant enough for an encyclopedia article about the play. You make a good point, though, Apoorv Chauhan, that Pereira's comments are definitely enough of a notable secondary source to make a reasonable argument for inclusion. I'd like to hear if there are in fact others for whom the "controversy" is noteworthy.Moishe Rosenbaum (talk) 19:56, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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