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riana_dzasta has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

You know why :) riana_dzasta 16:59, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, since you're a Floyd fan, I dedicate 'Crying Song' to you. Listen to the lyrics! Take care of yourself. riana_dzasta 17:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

re: Courtesy message

Hi Will, I'm glad that I've at least earned your respect if not your friendship. Thanks. --Kyok o 22:32, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That makes me feel even better, thanks! --Kyok o 23:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your editor review

I put a question on your editor review. Please answer it. Just thought I would let you know.-- Chi li 04:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s):

Autoblock of 217.33.207.195 lifted/expired.

Request handled by: Netsnipe ► 10:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Smile!

Ayelie has smiled at you, for no reason whatsoever! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Ayelie likes to give smiles to brighten up people's days, and hopes you will do the same by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}}, or {{subst:smile3}} to talk pages.
Have a good day, and happy editing!

Just returning the favour... in my own special way. :-) *hugs* --E ditor at Large ^(speak)

10:54, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar! I should not try to be funny more often... — E ditor at Large ^(speak) 21:04, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I updated your userpage

This is the diff. Please tell me if you don't like it.-- Chi li 05:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heh

Don't see why you might think that's a good thing... riana_dzasta 09:04, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

*blushes darker brown* :p Sankye. E-mail replied to, proof of my idiocy... by the way, all that hard work you spent on the parser over at Portal:Chemistry/Elements/Random might have been a waste of time, one project-member says they don't like the idea of a list. I'll see what happens. Looking for DYK-y stuff in the meantime. riana_dzasta 09:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Admin talk same-sex marriage

Hi Will/Sceptre: I just noticed that you and a few admins had a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive147#User:IZAK criticizing same-sex marriage on talk page that took place 16-17 November 2006. I would have liked to respond to the comments there at the time, but the page has already been archived, even though the question of editing the article is not over. So I am copying the following response to you, that I had wanted to put in. Best wishes, IZAK 09:23, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Response from IZAK

Hi folks I just noticed your comments here and I wanted to respond in my own "defense" to set the record "straight" (good pun, no? ;-}) So here goes: IZAK 09:05, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If an article deals with same-sex marriage, then as long as the comment/s on a talk page (yet!) deals with that topic it is connected to it, even though it may be phrased in a way that may not always please everyone... because according to the Bible it is a shame on South Africa and any other place that makes same-sex marriage "legal" since the Bible condemns that kind of behavior. What if a law was passed "allowing" theft, or murder, or adultery? Would that make them "legal" too? This is not about WP:SOAP, this is about understanding why the majority of religious leaders and people are opposed to such things, and that can, must and will be part of articles like this. What can I do, I didn't write the Bible! Honest!
At no point did I re-insert my comment 3 times into the talk pae within 24 hours, and to say that it violates the 3RR is false. I did it over a few days, so there could not have been any application of the 3RR in this case under any circumstance.
תועבה can be translated in a few ways, I was using only one from the JPS version. Indeed, I actually prefer one translation given by Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan who said that the word means "mistaken act" תוע-בהbut regardless of how it translated into other languages, the Hebrew Bible clearly condemns this act.
The list of "abominations" in the Bible is long, and homosexuality is most definitely one of the abominations, so we can't argue it away with other comparisons that are not to the point.
I subsequently expanded the implications of what I had written on the talk page, but it was not written in "religious" terms, but that addition to the article was deleted because an editor there said it was "all made up".
At that point, after someone threatened to block me, instead of practicing what they preached and engaging me in a serious dialogue on the issues and not as a distraction about what I was doing, I took the entire matter to Mediation Cabal where it has remained this past week. See Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-11-17 Religious opposition to same-sex marriage in South Africa and Wikipedia talk:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-11-17 Religious opposition to same-sex marriage in South Africa, where you can read the series of events and when they took place. Please feel free to add your comments there as well, I'd love to hear from you.
Finally, when the dust settles I will go back to work on the article and provide many more quotes and references, so that the article can reflect all parties views in South Africa, and not just those of the ANC-South African Communist Party-dominated government, parliament, and courts. There are always at least two sides to every story, right? That is the essence of NPOV. IZAK 09:06, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

happy Turkey Day!!!!!

I wish you a very merry Thanksgiving! Hope you and your family have a magnificent day! So, what are you thankful for? Hooray and happy gormandizi^ŋ! --Randfan _{please talk talk to me!}

Have a great day! Please respond on my talk page (the red "fan" link in my signature). Cheers! :) —Rand fan !!

Cheers! :) —Rand fan !! has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile at others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

Oops

I thought "Users I respect" meant friends also. I'm sorry. — $PЯINGrαgђ Always loyal! 20:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hope you feel better

-- Where has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile at others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

Ditto, bullies are no fun:(-- Chi li 23:04, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bullies?

I've had that exact problem before. I was bullied for being smart in Grade 4 (someone said something about me being gay, and since that word rhymed with my name, it kind of stuck... unlucky coincidence), so I can understand how it feels. Get some help if you have to, and remember that you don't have to deal with it alone; we're always here for you! With open arms, Fr ed il 01:19, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

:(

Sorry to see that other people are yanking your life around. I'm always here if you need me. Keep going on! — $PЯINGrαgђ Always loyal! 02:07, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't Worry Be Happy!

Hey there Scepter....I'm sorry to hear that things have not been goign well in real life. So, in order to attempt to make you smile....

We're here for support. Just some advice, I advise you to tell a trusting adult what is happening at school, to get those nasty bullies to stop. Once again, we love you! You are like a part of the family! K yo cat^{¿Qué tal?•meow!} 02:15, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aww... that kitten is so cute! But yeah, we're always here for you. Never lose hope. Fr ed il 02:27, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See? All of us can agree with that. Ditto what Fredil said! File:SoleteRayosÑajo.gif K yo cat^{¿Qué tal?♥meow!} 23:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cheer up! Things'll get better, I know :-) — E ditor at Large ^(speak) 18:34, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure about cute, tasty looking imho :p --Alf ^melmac 18:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Graphic Designer's Barnstar

		The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
		I saw your work with the E@L barnstar and I mus say, I'm impressed. Not by the work (though that was good, also), but your compassion for other users. And for that reason, I, GLYGLY, give you, Llama Man, this The Graphic Designer's Barnstar. Carry it well. GLYGLY 21:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Sceptre/pimp

Could you please do this for me?--Wokid MM 03:20, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Will, could you please take a look at my userpage and see if you know what's breaking the Miscellany section? It used to be hidden (with [SHOW]) but now it's showing with [HIDE] at the side... – Ch acor 10:12, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

just a passing comment

just thought that i'd remark on your impressive grasp of English for such a young kid. quite impressive altogether. i'm wondering though, under what (seemingly disgraceful) circumstances did you relinquish your admin title? :) Ventolin 22:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really think you need to know that, but he'll tell you if he wants to. ♥ Fr ed il 00:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would assume his grasp of English is good—it's his mother tongue. — $PЯINGrαgђ Always loyal! 05:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for showing me that I can vent about life here :P Just joking, I actually wanted to say thanks for being such a good friend to me. Even though your message to me wasn't the most comforting, it made me happy to know that someone, somewhere cares about me. Thank you :) ♥ Fr ed il 00:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats!

You have been named one of User:Editor37's favourite users for "finding out what's behind these cold eyes!" You rock! --Editor37 03:26, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

thanks

Hi Will, thanks. Abusive relationships are more common than you might think, and in my case, my ex knew how far he could go without breaking the law, so the police was no help. --Kyok o 15:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your support

Hello, Will! Thank you so much for your messages. I appreciate the support, the smile, and the thought of something secret that you can't send me yet. ^_^ I hope things get better for you in real life: you certainly deserve it! Remember what I told you and keep your chin up... you'd be surprised at how much a smile when you first wake up can cheer up your day. :-D — E ditor at Large ^(speak) 03:49, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Graphic

Sure, what would you like in it? And any idea of a color scheme? Or should I just surprise you? Master of Puppets ^{The Walrus!} 23:27, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Suzie

I got that, but it's just silly to have multiple daggers — that's just fan service. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 02:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Morning? :p

Not bad, just checking my watchlist and then contemplating going shopping... :) riana_dzasta 04:25, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I haven't gone shopping in, like... a week. Cut me some slack! ;) riana_dzasta 04:28, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, Riana's feeling the burn of the message backlog - unless you have a flashy signature or attach an image to your post, I won't notice it, apparently! What I should have said yesterday was - thanks for the snapple! /me takes a bite, watches teeth fall out riana_dzasta 04:44, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't blame Frisbie just because you don't have a 6 colour, 3 font, 9 lines in the edit box signature ;) I'm outta here now, take care, OK? <3 riana_dzasta 04:51, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is not what I expected to see

Obviously something is eluding me, sunshine.

My hearing was never quite the same after Earl's Court on the Division Bell tour :-) Guy (Help!) 18:11, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eeeeeeemaaaaaail

I guess I'm lucky, really. At least the first guy didn't take it to the next level. :O Daveydw ee b (^chat/_review!) 23:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Preview button

dont censur me wikipedia is not fr censurs! i wll use prviw whn i want to. hahahahaha. — Preceding unsigned comment added by riana_dzasta (talk • contribs) 05:31, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What the hell... lol. ♥ Fr ed il 22:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey There!

Hi Will, good to hear from you :) You're right, we haven't seen each other for ages, I guess that we've both been pretty busy, huh :P It's great to hear that you feeling a bit better about everything, really great, and thanks for the get well wishes.

Speak to you again soon (hopefully), Thε Halo ^Θ 14:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just notcied that I missed your message by about four minutes! If I had just gone to bed five minutes later...

Beer?

That's because WineSteward is a snob. hugs Everything going okay for you? --Elar a girl^Talk|Count 19:54, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Concordia Newsletter

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thanks

Hi Will, thanks. I just can't stay away from this place. I've decided to be partially active for the time being, and to try to stay away from the discussions about EA's governance (the cause of my stress here, and you'll know why if you read the part about "Should we keep the AC structure of 7 members?" or whatever it's called.) --Kyok o 15:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]