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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep per WP:SNOW. Article seems to be well sourced. Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 17:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- ¿Por qué no te callas? (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
This article may not meet the Wikipedia:Notability#Notability is not temporary requirements Paintman 22:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Clearly does meet notability criteria, even a ref for 600,000 Google hits, is an internet meme with the protagonists all being highly notable. No evidence that this event will just disappear either as has important political implications as well, and wikipedia is not a crystal ball so we cannot assume anything about the future of this meme. Thanks, SqueakBox 22:45, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Undeniably notable. Nom seems politically motivated. Decoratrix (talk) 23:07, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy keep, no reason to think this one is going away, and I'm trying to locate the ringtones for my cell phone now. Further, googling on Por que no te callas Chavez returns 1.8 million hits; "may not" meet "notability is not temporary" is far from being demonstrated. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:45, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. With that kind of coverage it would be speculative to assume that the incident will lose its notability. Kablammo (talk) 01:33, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep per above, notable phrase. Worst case scenario, it can be merged to the King's article or send it to WikiQuotes.--JForget 01:55, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep clearly notable now, and probably in the future. --Rumping (talk) 02:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep notable quote, notable event. Morhange (talk) 03:41, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as a notable diplomatic-political brouhaha, which is certain to have long-term consequences for Spanish-Latin American relations and live on like a ghost in pop culture. Bearian'sBooties (talk) 04:31, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep. The Ogre (talk) 13:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with Juan Carlos I: It is impossible to judge whether this statement is temporary right now. Perhaps it would be wise to review this in a month or two. Nonetheless, I don't think this statement deserves its own article.--Burzum (talk) 14:20, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The problem with this is thta the main protagonists were Juan Carlos and Chávez, not just Juan Carlos, certainly Chávez has commented considerably more on the issue. Thanks, SqueakBox 16:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- It doesn't appear that Burzum appreciates that it's the phrase itself which has become notable in ways that will certainly be permanent. It's very unusual that the "tu" form was used, and even among familiar subjects (for example, parent to child), it would be unusual in Spanish to tell your child to "shut up" (unless it was done in a friendy, joking, chiding way). It's just not done, and certainly not at the diplomatic, royal level. The phrase itself will never be the same, representing the association with a time when a king finally lost patience and told someone off. It's more than a diplomatic incident; it's the use of language in an unprecedented way that makes this particular article notable. (And check eBay; there's a variety of t-shirts already.) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:36, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The problem with this is thta the main protagonists were Juan Carlos and Chávez, not just Juan Carlos, certainly Chávez has commented considerably more on the issue. Thanks, SqueakBox 16:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Prominent uncommon international diplomatic incident. ↔ Dennywuh (talk) 15:13, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep. This promises to be as notable as Tear down this wall.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.226.234.247 (talk)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.