Commons:Categories for discussion/Archive/2019/11
pppppppp 2806:107E:12:4245:49CD:766B:624B:85A2 04:20, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Closed, anon junk nomination -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 05:16, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
mmmmmmmm 2806:107E:12:4245:49CD:766B:624B:85A2 04:35, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Closed, anon junk nomination. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 05:15, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
typo in name. please delete Jonathan Cardy (talk) 17:05, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
Done: Deleted, moved to Category:Amber tankard decorated with 7 deadly sins, no need to keep misspelled page as redirect. --rimshottalk 23:17, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Delete (all images are checked) Encik Tekateki (talk) 17:19, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Deleted @Encik Tekateki: thanks for emptying this one out! You can just tag them with {{Speedydelete}} in the future. Multichill (talk) 17:23, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
La région Rhône-Alpes n'existe plus. Le contenu de cette catégorie devrait être transféré dans category:Former railway lines in Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes (existante), et cette catégorie-ci supprimée. Fr.Latreille (talk) 22:30, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Merging discussion to Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/11/Category:Railway lines in Rhône-Alpes. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:51, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
should be deleted (typing mistake). Correct name is Category:Paintings of the Alps by Albert Bierstadt Zen 38 (talk) 08:13, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
- Tagged as bad name to get it deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:26, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:32, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Please rename this category to "Helmut Schäfer (Politician)" as Commons categories tend to be in English, not German. I know there is no page for him on the English Wikipedia but other politicians pages are this way even if they have no English page. Thanks in advance. 109.79.112.168 19:50, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
- Nein, warum? --Ralf Roletschek 22:29, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
Done. --A.Savin 22:49, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
why "for" and why "animation"? Should be Category:Animations of astrophysics Estopedist1 (talk) 08:26, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- You're right, but I simply am to lazy to do the work, so if you want to change ist, it is OK for if you do it. Kersti (talk) 18:06, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Animations of astrophysics. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:53, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Filozofio_kaj_Historio_de_Informadiko_-_enkonduka_leciono_00.webm 41.115.20.28 15:56, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Nonsense nomination. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:54, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Rename to Category:Diagrams about education - All diagrams are meant to be educational. Themightyquill (talk) 09:06, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support as the creator. Less ambiguous.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 09:26, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Renamed to Category:Diagrams about education. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:07, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Rename to Category:Diagrams about fire - this not just diagrams that make use of a fire icon, etc. Themightyquill (talk) 09:07, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- OK, fairey nuff PeterWD (talk) 09:11, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Renamed Category:Diagrams about fire - Themightyquill (talk) 09:09, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Rename Category:Diagrams about history unless it's for old diagrams? Themightyquill (talk) 09:13, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support as the creator. Less ambiguous.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 09:26, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Renamed Category:Diagrams about history. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:13, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Category:Aviators from Azerbaijan exists and contains any content that could be here. GRuban (talk) 16:40, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Redirected to Category:Aviators from Azerbaijan. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:14, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Made in error Broichmore (talk) 14:50, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- As the author you can just request speedy deletion since it was only recently (4 and a bit days ago) created. Or if there's a suitable target it can be redirected. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:18, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
Deleted. The {{Bad name}} template works faster, for next time. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:18, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
25%, 30% 2001:4898:80E8:1:507F:20E:BA46:13FF 16:43, 16 November 2019 (UTC) for
- I have no idea of the significance (if any) of "25%, 30%". Unless someone can clarify in the next 3 days, I suggest we just close this. Nothing about this category seems any different to me than any other category for any similar city in Washington state. - Jmabel ! talk 05:47, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- I support closing. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:06, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- I support closing too. I don't think you need to give them 3 days to respond. There won't be any discussion that results in the city's category being deleted. The odd thing about this proposal is that it came from an IPv6 address in a block belonging to Microsoft, which is headquartered in Redmond. Perhaps someone at a remote site trying to take a swipe at their boss? Ikluft (talk) 21:06, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
Nonsense nomination. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:49, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Request of Deletion: Meaningless title, no content. Alleged purpose is already covered by other categories. Till (talk) 20:39, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Close: cat was deleted. @Till.niermann: For cases like this, it's often better to use the {{Empty page}} template if discussion isn't needed. That's how I got this category deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 15:15, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, this category can be removed. I made a typing error (Books -> books) Dick Bos (talk) 10:39, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
Done: Deleted, moved to Category:1719 books from the Netherlands. --rimshottalk 22:41, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
It is confusing that there are two categories for this month. Should it not beː Category:July 2019 in the Netherlands (which already exists)? Could this category be merged into CategoryːJuly 2019 in the Netherlands? JopkeB (talk) 08:05, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Closed (category no longer exists) Josh (talk) 00:55, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Proposing upmerge to Category:Allotropy. Currently that parent is "Articles giving an overview of allotropy or of the allotropes of particular elements. For articles about specific allotropes, see the subcategory Category:Allotropes." But there can be allotropy of non-elements (we already have File:Mercury iodide.jpg in that parent). And that parent has files that are about several allotropes of an element together (example: File:PhosphorusAllotropes.svg), but per the description such a file does not go in the element's subcats of Category:Allotropes, which seems conceptually incorrect. I don't think we are likely to have other subcats of this parent so I don't see the use of this intermediate container cat. DMacks (talk) 05:12, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- Per IUPAC, "allotropes" are specifically forms of individual elements, not compounds, so I removed that file from this cat. DMacks (talk) 05:26, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to Category:Allotropy. --Allforrous (talk) 10:49, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Upmerged to Category:Allotropy per discussion. Ed (Edgar181) 11:47, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Edgar181, DMacks, and Allforrous: Sorry I didn't notice this during the discussion, but these are not the same thing. Allotropy is the concept, Allotropes are the individual molecules. I've restored the category accordingly. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:49, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Misspelled artist name. Correct category already exists (Peter Tom-Petersen). Rsteen (talk) 05:01, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Done: by User:Túrelio. --JuTa 09:36, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Proposed renaming of category Sierra Pelona Mountains to Sierra Pelona Ridge, to correctly use the name supported by official USGS GNIS source and follow renaming which occurred on Wikipedia for the same reason. --Ikluft (talk) 21:57, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Done: No need for a lengthy discussion. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 22:55, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
Need to delete the category. It is created with a gross spelling error GAndy (talk) 15:25, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Deleted by Túrelio. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:42, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
We don't combine two different things in categories (streets and buildings). I think the files here could be moved to just a buildings category, because the streets shown aren't a major part of the images. Auntof6 (talk) 10:00, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- Fine to me. When I create the "Streets and buildings in Torres Vedras" category, there wasn´t a "Buildings in Torres Vedras" category, which was created 4 days later, and I find that there are similar (Streets and buildings in) categories in Commons. But since the Buildings category was created, I agree to change/move the "Streets and buildings in Torres Vedras" to only "Streets in Torres Vedras". GualdimG (talk) 11:00, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Category:Streets in Torres Vedras and Category:Buildings in Torres Vedras now exist with the old name redirecting to the streets category. For what its worth the old title violated Commons:Rename a category#Subject identification #2 (inappropriate mixing) and w:WP:NARROWCAT. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:52, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
typo and already a duplicate cat with correct spelling exists Psubhashish (talk) 16:02, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Deleted. Taivo (talk) 15:08, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
hokusai pittore 87.5.231.171 17:00, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Not done: Nonsense, nothing to discuss. --jdx Re: 17:21, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
Please delete. No locality with such name (there are Staroye Drozhzhanoye, Novoye Dr., Chuvashskoye Dr.) ДолбоЯщер (talk) 17:46, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. We have a category for en:Drozhzhanovsky District but no files for the community of en:Staroye Drozhzhanoye. -- Themightyquill (talk) 09:01, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:13, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
This is a useless category and I propose deletion. There is very little that distinguishes an air-conditioned vehicle from a non-air-conditioned one. It would be much more useful to have a categories for the actual air-conditioning units/equipment in vehicles (such as already exist for cars and aircraft). P 1 9 9 ✉ 16:44, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed. Something like Category:Air-conditioners in vehicles would make sense, but this is not a useful categorization of images. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:16, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
- @P199 and Themightyquill: rename is better than delete, to Category:Air conditioners in vehicles (no '-' per parent Category:Air conditioners) or Category:Air conditioning in vehicles. This should only be for files depicting the A/C aspect of vehicles, not for a collection of vehicle categories that just happen to include A/C in their design. Josh (talk) 00:27, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Joshbaumgartner: Do we actually have any images like you describe? - Themightyquill (talk) 08:26, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: Category:Automobile air conditioners is mostly files depicting the air conditioning systems of cars, and certainly not a place for the categories of all cars which have A/C. Josh (talk) 08:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- So then maybe Category:Vehicle air conditioners between Category:Air conditioners and Category:Automobile air conditioners ? That is, if we have images of air conditioners in vehicles which are not automobiles? - Themightyquill (talk) 08:37, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, I fully agree with the foregoing discussion. In fact, that can be implemented irregardless of whatever the outcome is of this discussion. But a rename/redirect is not in order, because "Air-conditioned vehicles" is not the same as "Air conditioners in vehicles". Moreover, it is obvious that the collection of images in the category under discussion would not belong in "Air conditioners in vehicles". But if Josh really wants a redirect, then so be it, no big deal. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- I created Category:Vehicle air conditioners, with the following as redirects: Category:Air-conditioners in vehicles, Category:Air conditioners in vehicles, and Category:Air conditioning in vehicles. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:52, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: Yes, that makes sense, Category:Vehicle air conditioners is better than Category:Air conditioners in vehicles. Josh (talk) 18:32, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- So then maybe Category:Vehicle air conditioners between Category:Air conditioners and Category:Automobile air conditioners ? That is, if we have images of air conditioners in vehicles which are not automobiles? - Themightyquill (talk) 08:37, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: Category:Automobile air conditioners is mostly files depicting the air conditioning systems of cars, and certainly not a place for the categories of all cars which have A/C. Josh (talk) 08:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- I also think deleting Category:Air-conditioned vehicles now makes more sense than redirecting. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:16, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
This is nonsense. Hijab is compulsory in Iran. en:Hijab_by_country#Iran Hanooz 17:58, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Delete This seems like a useless intersection of unrelated content. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:26, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:18, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Subjective category including fashion judgement. Move content to Category:Short clothing, Category:Loose clothing, Category:Tight clothing, or just remove altogether. Delete category. Themightyquill (talk) 20:37, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:39, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:10, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Delete as unclear and subjective. Themightyquill (talk) 21:02, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- Agree. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:37, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:10, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
wrong name / misspelled Eissink (talk) 12:54, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Any reason not to leave a redirect? - Themightyquill (talk) 08:44, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- It is a clear misspelling: SokolEv should be SokolOv (which btw is an existing category, for another person). I'm not fond of maintaining or even introducing errors. Eissink (talk) 13:22, 12 November 2019 (UTC).
- Sorry, I misread and thought it was just leaving out the patronymic. I agree, this should definitely be deleted, but Category:Oleg Sokolov should be disambiguated. I'll start another CFD for that though. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:40, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:11, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Is Category:Animations of computer graphics redundant with Category:Computer animations ? Themightyquill (talk) 10:35, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
No opposition. Merged into Category:Computer animations. - Themightyquill (talk) 15:40, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
Is Category:Dressing gowns redundant with Category:Housecoats? Oddly, en:Dressing gown and en:Housecoat both redirect to en:Bathrobe, but I think Category:Bathrobes is distinct enough to deserve its own category. Themightyquill (talk) 13:34, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
No opposition. Merged to Category:Housecoats. - Themightyquill (talk) 15:59, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
Where is the difference to Category:Camera collections? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 15:49, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- Just the fact that Category:Camera collections is grammatically correct, I think. Delete Category:Cameras collections - Themightyquill (talk) 21:45, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- Agree. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:05, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Template:Moved. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 15:49, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
There is nothing here 2001:1C03:5A02:6900:940E:73A3:A1D4:AE78 15:53, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 22:21, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
Per Commons:Deletion requests/Template:Cc-by-2.5-de, license doesn't exist. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:19, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Deleted per Commons:Deletion requests/Template:Cc-by-2.5-de. Taivo (talk) 16:45, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
do we really need this category? Already exists Category:Audio files of music by composer Estopedist1 (talk) 06:53, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 07:21, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
do we really need this category? Already exists Category:Audio files of music by composer Estopedist1 (talk) 06:53, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- No, we don't. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:39, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 07:20, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Per Commons:Deletion requests/Template:Cc-by-3.0-bg, license doesn't really exist Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:45, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 07:17, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Rename to Category:United Nations Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean Themightyquill (talk) 20:43, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Support per Wikipedia and disambiguate if alternative uses are found. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:47, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 07:14, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
empty category replaced by Category:2010 in the Maldives Robby (talk) 23:01, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed, hardly need for discussion surely Ardfern (talk) 23:04, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 07:12, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
empty duplicate of Category:2011 in the Maldives Robby (talk) 23:03, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed, no need for discussion surely. Happy for them to be replaced thru Bad name Ardfern (talk) 23:05, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 07:13, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Duplicate of Category:Nature of Volgograd oblast by district — Redboston 23:12, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Done: by Túrelio. --ƏXPLICIT 07:16, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
See also: Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/12/Category:Large GIFs of Animation for astrophysics. The contents currently contain files ranging from 981 KB to 53.07 MB. Perhaps we could come up with a less subjective description than "very large" ? Themightyquill (talk) 07:45, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
- no system here. Note that there are:
category:Animated GIF files between 50 MP and 100 MP category:Animated GIF files exceeding the 100 MP limit category:Animations in very large GIF files
--Estopedist1 (talk) 07:43, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Agree that this is too subjective. Does "very large" refer to image dimensions or file size? It seems that the original intent may have been to cull extraordinarily large files from smaller, and therefore potentially more useful GIFs. Lambtron (talk) 16:22, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
Category:Animated GIF files exceeding the 100 MP limit and Category:Animated GIF files between 50 MP and 100 MP are specific and have practical implications, so they deserve to exist as maintenance categories. The rest have been deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 16:25, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 | Category:Satevari rifles | Merge into | Category:Satevari | |
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 | eliminate duplication | |||
 | Josh (talk) 20:16, 8 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
Closed (no objection; merge) Josh (talk) 23:49, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 | Category:Zeppelin LZ-3 (1912) | Delete | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| only had one image, but it was misassigned (was actually ZR III, which is at Category:USS Los Angeles (ZR-3)). Now is empty. Perhaps meant to refer to LZ-3 (Category:LZ 3), LZ 12 (Category:LZ 12 / Z III), or LZ 24 (Category:LZ 24 / L 3), but these all already have correctly named categories. | |||
| Josh (talk) 23:49, 20 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
Closed (no objections; delete) Josh (talk) 23:48, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
Move to Category:Sean (singer) or Category:Sean (Korean singer) for clarity. Themightyquill (talk) 13:36, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Agree. This page could redirect to the given name, or maybe become a dab page. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:52, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Speedy move w:Sean is about the name and the only other uses at w:Sean (disambiguation) seem to be uses of the name therefore maybe the name should be at the base name but not the individual with this name. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:57, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Done: renamed to Category:Sean (South Korean rapper). --ƏXPLICIT 05:33, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
en:Gown is little more than a disambiguation page (like en:Gown (disambiguation)), since "gown" can mean so many things. Should this be turned into a disambiguation page too? Themightyquill (talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- I would say so. Hospital gowns and wedding gowns are nothing alike, for example. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:53, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Converted to DAB page. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:50, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
Is Category:Electrical schemas redundant with Category:Electrical diagrams? If so, I'd like to see Category:Electrical schemas redirected, and all the subcategories (schemes and schemas) renamed to "diagrams." I don't think there's any clear difference in English. Themightyquill (talk) 10:49, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
No opposition in over a month. Moved to diagrams. - Themightyquill (talk) 15:25, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Excuse my ignorance here. Is there a functional difference between Category:Statistical charts and Category:Quantitative charts? Themightyquill (talk) 11:03, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell there's a difference between quantitative diagrams (which might include maps) and statistical diagrams (which wouldn't include maps), but statistical charts and quantitative diagrams are synonymous. - 20:00, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Merged into Category:Statistical charts. - Themightyquill (talk) 20:00, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Rename Category:Oleg Sokolov (fencer) to distinguish from en:Oleg Sokolov / Category:Oleg Valeryevich Sokolov. -- Themightyquill (talk) 09:42, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
moved. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:37, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Where is the difference to Category:Linguistics? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:09, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- Seems redundant to me. Note that Category:Linguistic wikilinks to en:Category:Linguistic units even though we have Category:Linguistic units. So that should be fixed when we delete. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:52, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:19, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
What is Open Festival? 0 links in enwiki (see [1]). Google search doesn't help? Estopedist1 (talk) 07:07, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Deleted due to unclear purpose. It can be recreated if necessary. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:04, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Unnecessary and unhelpful categorization by supercontinent Themightyquill (talk) 11:59, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- The same goes for Category:Towns in the Americas, Category:Villages in the Americas and Category:Cities in the Americas. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:03, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- Agree with all. --Auntof6 (talk) 15:33, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
No opposition in a month. Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:42, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Unnecessary and unhelpful categorization by supercontinent. Themightyquill (talk) 12:04, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- Agree. --Auntof6 (talk) 15:34, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
No opposition in a month. Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:43, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Unnecessary and unhelpful categorization by supercontinent Themightyquill (talk) 12:05, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- Same for Category:Demonstrations and protests in the Americas and Category:Elections in the Americas. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:23, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- I agree with most, but Category:Demonstrations and protests in the Americas has subcats for Latin America and the Caribbean, not just North and South America: how to handle those? --Auntof6 (talk) 15:26, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- The same thing we do with every other category of "in Latin America" and "in the Caribbean". In this case, they are already in Category:Demonstrations and protests by region so it's also COM:OVERCAT. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:31, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- Moreover, I'm not sure Category:Demonstrations and protests in Latin America needs to exist at all, since it also just subcategorizes by countries, rather than describing Latin-America-wide demonstrations or protests. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:34, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- OK, that makes sense. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:59, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
No opposition in a month. Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:46, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Unnecessary and unhelpful categorization by supercontinent Themightyquill (talk) 12:05, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- The same applies to Category:Copyright law in the Americas - Themightyquill (talk) 12:06, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- Agree with both. --Auntof6 (talk) 15:35, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
No opposition in a month. Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:48, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Unnecessary and unhelpful categorization by continent. This includes Category:Economy of the Americas, Category:Tourism in the AmericasCategory:Bridges in the Americas and Category:Vehicles of the Americas. Category:Shops in the Americas, and Category:Cannabis shops in the Americas. Category:Trip around the Americas with a sailboat can be moved to Category:Americas or deleted. Themightyquill (talk) 12:11, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
No opposition in a month. Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:58, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
I would suggest this category should be for pan-american organizations, serving all or most of the americas, but not subdivided by continent. Themightyquill (talk) 12:16, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- I agree with that. I think any "Americas" category should be that way. --Auntof6 (talk) 15:20, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed. ––Apalsola t • c 10:19, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Done. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:03, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
not English name. Looks like a subjective category. Wrong upper category (animated GIF files) Estopedist1 (talk) 07:11, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Estopedist1: do you have a proposal to fix this? Josh (talk) 23:55, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- I did a temporary (?) category:Animations of optical patterns (although we haven't category:Optical patterns). In future there may be, for example, category:Quality animations of patterns and textures (already exists category:Quality images of patterns and textures)--Estopedist1 (talk) 05:51, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
@Estopedist: Closed (no objections to move to category:Animations of optical patterns) Josh (talk) 17:52, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
we should avoid so called "and"-categories. So better would be category:Animations of facial expressions and category:Videos of facial expressions. Note that there is Category:Facial animation Estopedist1 (talk) 20:27, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- The distinction is made solely on the basis of file type? -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 21:21, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- The difference between an gif animation created from video and an actual video is admittedly pretty thin, but nevertheless, that seems to be the norm. - Themightyquill (talk) 15:45, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
@Estopedist1, Tuvalkin, and Themightyquill: Closed (split into separate animation and video categories) Josh (talk) 18:10, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Badly named category as per MOS:TITLE : prepositions containing four letters or fewer (as, in, of, on, to, for, from, into, like, over, with, upon, etc.) are not capitalized, unless they are the first or last word of a title (which is not the case of this band). They're similar categories like System of a Down, Theory of a Deadman or Cats on Trees which do not use any capitalization, even they are sometimes shortened as well using a full capitalization (SOAD for System of a Down). Synthwave.94 (talk) 19:56, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- What kind of capitalization does the band use? - Themightyquill (talk) 20:08, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: Their name is stylized as Dead Cats On Mopeds, or D.C.O.M. Synthwave.94 (talk) 20:44, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Comment: The en.wiki Manual of Style has no bearing on Commons. We are not a sub-project of the English Wikipedia. — Huntster (t @ c) 21:28, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Have a look here Category talk:Dead Cats On Mopeds - ZMF 2015 nearly the same discussion with a decision. "Dead Cats On Mopeds" is fine.
- Synthwave.94 way to work is nearly vandalism like. Is changing names of Categories removing information that may clarify the category. Today he removed the Information (Rapper) from the category "Frauenarzt (Rapper)" now the medical profession gynecologist and the musician are using the same german category name. when he changes category names, he does not fix the relations in the languages, therefore now a lot of wikis are poniting to nowhere. I don't think that this is very helpfull. His primarly idea seems to impress his set of en:wp rules to commons, misunderstanding that commons is a multilanguage project, with a lot of facets
- Comment: The en.wiki Manual of Style has no bearing on Commons. We are not a sub-project of the English Wikipedia. — Huntster (t @ c) 21:28, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: Their name is stylized as Dead Cats On Mopeds, or D.C.O.M. Synthwave.94 (talk) 20:44, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
--Jörgens.Mi Talk 22:12, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Huntster: Incorrect, the en.wiki Manual of Style (including capitalization) is applied on Commons as well, as you can see on these few requests : Ancient Egyptian Beer industry, Catherine yronwode, Tacos al Pastor, Roof Garden and many others I'm not going to mention here. You write Korn and not KoЯn, Babymetal and not BABYMETAL, etc. The same consistency should therefore be applied to similar categories, and Dead Cats on Mopeds is not an exception to the rule. The fact the band decided to stylize it as "Dead Cats On Mopeds" is completly irrelevant here. Synthwave.94 (talk) 23:46, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Joergens.mi: No other Commons category bears this name, and Commons categories should be in English, not in German. Synthwave.94 (talk) 23:46, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Synthwave.94, I have no idea what you're referring to, or how it relates to my statement that the English Wikipedia Manual of Style does not have bearing here, just as what we do on Commons has no bearing on what en.wiki does. — Huntster (t @ c) 01:57, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Synthwave.94: "Commons categories should be in English, not in German.", that's funny, your own link proves you wrong. Too easy. And we don't use KoЯn because w:en:Korn doesn't use that Russian character anyway. If they did, their name would be pronounced as "Koyan". It's a mirrored R, not a Я. If anyone uses a triangle in their name, we also won't include a ▸ in the category name. Not part of the alphabet. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 19:52, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Alexis Jazz: It's not used because it's a stylization, and it's the same thing for Dead Cats on Mopeds stylized as Dead Cats On Mopeds and many other similar examples which were already cited so far. Synthwave.94 (talk) 00:16, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Synthwave.94: To clarify: Yes, standard rules of grammar on commons, particularly for general categories, but that doesn't mean we need to follow the speific rules of en.wiki MOS. They didn't come up with rules about capitalization. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:50, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Joergens.mi: As far as I can see, Category:Frauenarzt (Rapper) was moved to Category:Frauenarzt (rapper), which is entirely appropriate. Disamibuation in parenthesis don't need to be capitalized - it's not part of the name. Please don't accuse others of vandalism just because you disagree with their behaviour. There's absolutely nothing to indicate Synthwave is consciously trying to make commons worse. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:54, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: with this categorisation it is ok. I didn't accuse him to to vandalism, but I said "is nearly vandalism like" He did several changes which are really not helpfull, especially if he didn't speak the according language. when you have a look in his change records:
These are some results of yesterday an today.
- Category:Paragon (band) - Börsencrash Festival Wuppertal 2016 to Category:Paragon - Börsencrash Festival Wuppertal 2016
- Category:Razz (band) to Category:RAZZ
- Category:Lakehouse (Band) to Category:Lakehouse (musical group) is there a need for
- Category:Einstürzende Neubauten (Band) to Category:Einstürzende Neubauten
- Category:Eisfabrik (band); added Category:Eisfabrik
- Category:No Sleep By The Machine - Nocturnal Culture Night 2015 to Category:No Sleep by the Machine - Nocturnal Culture Night 2015
- Category:Glashaus (Band) to Category:Glashaus (musical group) is there a need for
- Category:Fuck Art, Let’s Dance! - Rocco del Schlacko 2016 to Category:Fuck Art, Let's Dance! - Rocco del Schlacko 2016
- Category:Fuck Art, Let’s Dance! - Wilwarin Festival 2015 to Category:Fuck Art, Let's Dance! - Wilwarin Festival 2015
- Category:KadavriK - Dong Open Air 2016 to Category:Kadavrik - Dong Open Air 2016 The Band name is KadavriK with a capital K in the end, just deleting a correct Band name.
Why these changing? (band) is an additional information which is nit forbidden, Did hie correct all links to the cat, or have we now a big set of useless links --Jörgens.Mi Talk 11:41, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- I agree they are unhelpful edits, and I'd ask Synthwave.94 to stop renaming categories without discussion but I think the intentions are positive, if misguided. - Themightyquill (talk) 11:46, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Joergens.mi: (Musical group) is preferred over (band) as per this answer by Blackcat, straight apostrophes are used over curly apostrophes as per MOS:PUNCT and disambiguation is uneeded if there's no other page with this name (Einstürzende Neubauten, Eisfabrik, etc.) Please read the whole Manual of Style from the English Wikipedia, as you don't seem to know it at all. Synthwave.94 (talk) 12:49, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: None of my changes were unhelpful as per WP:MOS and consistency purposes, and I was even thanked for several of them so far. Synthwave.94 (talk) 12:49, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Please stop referencing en.wiki rules here. We have our own set of Commons:Policies and guidelines including COM:NOTWP - Themightyquill (talk) 14:06, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Many en.wiki rules also apply on Commons and also seem to be regularly used, so why should I stop referencing them ? Synthwave.94 (talk) 15:03, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Synthwave.94: none of them actually apply and some are used because some users agree with them. That doesn't allow you to force anyone else to follow them. That rename from KadavriK to Kadavrik is either inconsistent with w:en:GeForce or WP:MOS is really quirky if this is the result. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 20:25, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Alexis Jazz: I hope you're joking, right ? The two categories (Kadavrik and KadavriK) already existed, and you obviously don't need two categories for a same band. Also you can rename similarly and badly named categories by yourself. Synthwave.94 (talk) 00:16, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- We don't need two, but we can move to KadavriK. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 08:44, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Alexis Jazz: I hope you're joking, right ? The two categories (Kadavrik and KadavriK) already existed, and you obviously don't need two categories for a same band. Also you can rename similarly and badly named categories by yourself. Synthwave.94 (talk) 00:16, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Synthwave.94: none of them actually apply and some are used because some users agree with them. That doesn't allow you to force anyone else to follow them. That rename from KadavriK to Kadavrik is either inconsistent with w:en:GeForce or WP:MOS is really quirky if this is the result. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 20:25, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- Many en.wiki rules also apply on Commons and also seem to be regularly used, so why should I stop referencing them ? Synthwave.94 (talk) 15:03, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Please stop referencing en.wiki rules here. We have our own set of Commons:Policies and guidelines including COM:NOTWP - Themightyquill (talk) 14:06, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
If you like the rules, you personally can follow it, but please don't urge other people to follow, even by renaming categories without knowing the background. It is quite common to add the event in round braces in the german wikipedia and there fore we use it on commons. But we would never go around an change catagories from - xxxx to (xxx). There is no need for. There are over 45.000 pages with scans where the year are in round braces and there is no need for changing this. I would never get the idea to force other user to obey to de.wiki rules in a multi language project, even when I have problems with the names of pictures named in Chinese, Hiragana, russian or thai.
The idea with band and musical group is a nice one. I'll try in the future to use musical group instead of band because of the good arguments of user:Blackcat especially with ambiguous groups. But I won't change it for the past (and I'm participatiting Wikipedia:Festivalsommer) --Jörgens.Mi Talk 15:27, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- I think I agree with musical group, in part because not all musical groups are bands. I don't think I would call a choir a band. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 20:25, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
I would generally stick to the stylization of the source. Perhaps some exception for names that are not abbreviations with more than five or six consecutive capital lettters. So in this case, Dead Cats On Mopeds are fine. I mean, they're dead, but their name is fine. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 20:25, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Alexis Jazz: The "stylization of the source" is unreliable, considering they don't necessarly follow guidelines/policies. That's the case for Cats on Trees on the de.wiki, which was previously named Cats On Trees. You can even notice the user who renamed the page cited WP:NK, and not a personal choice. I can even cite WP:NK as a valid reason to move Dead Cats On Mopeds to Dead Cats on Mopeds, considering it's a German band that should be following guidelines/policies from the de.wiki. Synthwave.94 (talk) 00:31, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Synthwave.94: How many times do we have to tell you? w:WP:MOS, w:de:WP:NK and so on don't apply here. Commons is not a subproject of Wikipedia! - Alexis Jazz ping plz 08:44, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- They do, as per the numerous examples found here. Synthwave.94 (talk) 23:18, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
- They don't. You know it, I know it. Stop being silly. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 16:30, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
- They do, as per the numerous examples found here. Synthwave.94 (talk) 23:18, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Synthwave.94: How many times do we have to tell you? w:WP:MOS, w:de:WP:NK and so on don't apply here. Commons is not a subproject of Wikipedia! - Alexis Jazz ping plz 08:44, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
@Synthwave.94, Themightyquill, Alexis Jazz, Joergens.mi, Huntster, and Blackcat: Closed (no consensus to rename) Josh (talk) 18:27, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Is Category:Clothing details redunant with Category:Parts of clothing ? Themightyquill (talk) 20:58, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- I think so. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:38, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
@Themightyquill and Auntof6: Closed (no objections; merge) Josh (talk) 18:32, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Redundant with Category:Computer science diagrams Themightyquill (talk) 11:12, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
@Themightyquill: Closed (no objections; merge) Josh (talk) 18:43, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Redundant with Category:Information graphics of the European Union Themightyquill (talk) 11:14, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
@Themightyquill: Closed (no objections; merge) Josh (talk) 18:47, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Empty = useless 2001:1C03:5A02:6900:41E:CC31:9EAD:887B 13:46, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
- It is not currently empty. - Themightyquill (talk) 19:11, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Not done: Not empty. --jdx Re: 20:07, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Move to Category:American Popular Revolutionary Alliance Themightyquill (talk) 08:26, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 01:07, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
Cross wiki spam/promotion. No value. Company does not exist (IRL). Record label was "founded" in 2017 by a 14 year old. The es.WP article about the artist/founder was deleted. WD items are currently nominated. Quakewoody (talk) 09:54, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- Wait until the DRs for the files are completed, if they are deleted this will be deleted as empty. If not then presumably it can remain unless we have a notability policy here which I don't think we do. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:55, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:58, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
I think it is redundant cat. Let it be only category:Animations of text. Same problem with category:Animations without text Estopedist1 (talk) 08:16, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- What about an animation which depicts text but who's subject is not text? For instance, most books in English use Latin script but are not books about Latin script.
- For example, what if Bugs Bunny is outside a diner whose window sign reads "DINER"? Is that an animation of a rabbit or is it an animation of text? If it is an animation of text, then why is there a rabbit (and vice versus)? Hyacinth (talk) 08:24, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- This seems like a reasonable subcategory of Category:Images containing text. It might be renamed Category:Animations containing text but I'm not sure that's necessary. - Themightyquill (talk) 07:50, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
- Category:Images containing text is an interesting one because if valuable then it should be contain only subcategories and no images (there are over million images containing text). Category:Animations without text is quite ridicilous--Estopedist1 (talk) 15:13, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Estopedist1 and Themightyquill: Generally, we should categorize by what is in an image, not by what is not there, so I would support deleting Category:Animations without text but keep Category:Animations of text. Josh (talk) 00:12, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
@Estopedist1, Hyacinth, and Themightyquill: Closed (merge Category:Animations with text into category:Animations of text; delete Category:Animations without text) Josh (talk) 19:45, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Should be joined into Category:Yellow numbers; likewise for other colors in Category:Numbers by color. Jochen Burghardt (talk) 17:40, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- No opposition so I deleted this one, but the other two weren't tagged, so I've done so. If no one objects soon, I'll delete those two. - Themightyquill (talk) 15:43, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
@Jochen Burghardt and Themightyquill: Closed (upmerge Category:Numbers depicted by color numerals) Josh (talk) 19:59, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
This and all sub-categories should be deleted. The categorization of general topic by file type is generally not allowed. See, for example, Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/05/Category:Flags by type of image Estopedist1 (talk) 17:06, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- I would tend to agree. I might accept midi files as a separate type of recording, but whether something is WAV or OGG doesn't say much about what I'm going to hear. And I believe midi music could also be saved as ogg or wav, making the separation useless. I've also tagged Category:Ogg files of music by composer. `- Themightyquill (talk) 09:25, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
- Agree. This is pointless over-categorization, similar to Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/10/Category:Photographs of dance. Lambtron (talk) 17:24, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
@Estopedist1, Themightyquill, and Lambtron: Closed (no objections; upmerge Category:WAV files of music by composer and Category:Ogg files of music by composer) Josh (talk) 20:18, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Cette catégorie doublonne avec category:Ligne Lyon-Trévoux, plus ancienne, plus fournie, et liée à la page wikipédia concernée. Semble avoir été créée par inadvertance par quelqu'un qui avait deux photos à placer. Fr.Latreille (talk) 22:21, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Bonjour Fr.Latreille, le titre de l'article wikipedia Ligne de Lyon-Croix-Rousse à Trévoux est du à un renomage fait en 2011 par un bot suite à une décision du projet chemin de fer sur les noms des articles sur les lignes de chemin de fer. Comme vous dite il est parfois difficile de s'y retrouver sur Commons lorsque l'on fait de la maintenance des articles d'où ce choix du sans doute à l'ignorance de l'existence de la category:Ligne Lyon-Trévoux. Donc vous faites au mieux... le plus simple étant votre proposition ;) cordialement --Quoique (talk) 05:34, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Je crois donc qu'il faut supprimer Category:Ligne de Lyon-Croix-Rousse à Trévoux, en transférant les items qui y figurent dans Category:Ligne Lyon-Trévoux. Mais je n'ai pas la compétence pour supprimer une catégorie. --Fr.Latreille (talk) 21:41, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
@Fr.Latreille and Quoique: Closed (no objections; merge Category:Ligne de Lyon-Croix-Rousse à Trévoux into Category:Ligne Lyon-Trévoux) Josh (talk) 21:45, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
There is a loop as Cat black tie and Cat black bow tie are categorised in each others categorie. I'm now not a fashion expert and so I'd like to ask somebody with more expertiese to categorise these cats corectly. Sanandros (talk) 05:48, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Black bow ties are an element of the black tie dress code (en:Black tie) so Category:Black bow ties should be a subcategory of Category:Black tie, just like Category:Tuxedoes. Then again, not everyone in a black bow tie is wearing "Black Tie" dress code. Maybe we need Category:Elements of black tie as a subcategory? - Themightyquill (talk) 08:27, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- I've made Category:Elements of black tie which sorts out the category loop. We could also consider renaming it to Category:Black tie (dress code) to remove ambiguity, or just close as solved... - Themightyquill (talk) 10:56, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: I think renaming to Category:Black tie (dress code) would be a good idea to eliminate ambiguity. Josh (talk) 18:41, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
- I've made Category:Elements of black tie which sorts out the category loop. We could also consider renaming it to Category:Black tie (dress code) to remove ambiguity, or just close as solved... - Themightyquill (talk) 10:56, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
@Sanandros and Themightyquill: Closed (no objections; rename Category:Elements of black tie to Category:Black tie (dress code)) Josh (talk) 22:09, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
to delete? See Category talk:Machine pronunciations of Tamil language Estopedist1 (talk) 09:39, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- What should we do with the contents? - Themightyquill (talk) 12:49, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: what do you mean with the word "contents"--Estopedist1 (talk) 09:33, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
- If we delete this category, what do we do with the files that are currently in this category? - Themightyquill (talk) 11:08, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- all contents (= all files) should be deleted. Then this category is empty and the problem solved?--Estopedist1 (talk) 13:56, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- If we delete this category, what do we do with the files that are currently in this category? - Themightyquill (talk) 11:08, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: what do you mean with the word "contents"--Estopedist1 (talk) 09:33, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Estopedist1: Yes, if you think the files should be deleted, please nominate them for deletion. If they are all deleted and the category is empty, it will also be deleted. But for the time being, it makes sense to group them together in some kind of category, no? - Themightyquill (talk) 08:51, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
- I did Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by User:Thirdeyetvg. Now we are waiting--Estopedist1 (talk) 11:33, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
@Estopedist1 and Themightyquill: Closed (contents have been deleted, so delete Category:Machine pronunciations of Tamil language) Josh (talk) 21:56, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Merge with Category:Diagrams. I think the two are effectively redundant on commons. en:Schema and en:Scheme are both disambiguation pages. Themightyquill (talk) 10:51, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- And w:Schemas redirects to the DAB, unless the category can serve as a container category then we should probably disambiguate. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:58, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
@Themightyquill and Crouch, Swale: Closed (no objections; merge Category:Schemas into Category:Diagrams and replace with dab) Josh (talk) 22:05, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Category:Field Programmable Gate Array exists. Geek3 (talk) 13:09, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- They are definitely redundant, but I don't see why it should be capitalized. Hyphenation also makes sense, gramatically. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:49, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
@Geek3 and Themightyquill: Closed (no objections; merge Category:Field Programmable Gate Array into Category:Field-programmable gate array) Josh (talk) 01:17, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Redundant with Category:Videos of clinical trials ? Themightyquill (talk) 09:06, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- With the current content, yes. (Also, the capitalization is wrong.) Maybe we need to rename Category:Trials or make it a dab to prevent confusion. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:10, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
@Themightyquill and Auntof6: Closed (no objections; merge Category:Media from Trials into Category:Videos of clinical trials; open CfD for Category:Trials for further issues.) Josh (talk) 01:36, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
The category should be plural but it's also ambiguous with Category:Cogs. Rename to Category:Cogs (ships) (or possibly Category:Hanseatic league ships, since that seems to be the actual content?) Themightyquill (talk) 10:44, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support "Cog(s)" clearly refers more commonly to the mechanical meaning (although that to should probably be disambiguated) and yes it should be in the plural form. Probbaly not controversial so could probably speedy move since both w:Cog and w:Cogs are DAB pages. Crouch, Swale (talk) 13:45, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
@Themightyquill and Crouch, Swale: Closed (no objections; move Category:Cog to Category:Cogs (ships)) Josh (talk) 17:40, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Strangely, this is a subcategory of Category:Wikipedia Arbitration Committee logos and not the other way. I suggest these be swapped, the two logos not pertaining to Wikipedia shows how the name is misleading. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:06, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- I fixed the most obvious errors but this still needs to be looked at. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 14:30, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
@1234qwer1234qwer4, Tuvalkin, and Themightyquill: Closed (no objections to rename) Josh (talk) 17:59, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
"(I)" is a non-intuitive disambiguation token (we also have Category:Jean Marot that has no DAB token). Since this one already has a DAB token, how about using "(architect)" instead (2 of 4 wiki use that) as a more descriptive term. The Creator:Jean Marot (I) page gives "Jean Marot the Elder" as an alt name, but the other Jean Marot is 150 years older, so again a profession is a better identiy than anything about chronology. I don't know if it's worth emphasizing who the other person is, as (poet) rather than the plain name (frwiki has them at fr:Jean Marot (poète) but the other wikis do not have a DAB token for this person). DMacks (talk) 04:48, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support. The category was created a while ago by a useful bot, but not the best name. I think we can be bold and go ahead and make the change. --Robert.Allen (talk) 21:10, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
@DMacks and Robert.Allen: Closed (no objections to dab rename to Category:Jean Marot (architect) and Category:Jean Marot (poet) with Category:Jean Marot as a dab) Josh (talk) 18:05, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Two of the three subcats are more properly subcats of that third one (Category:Disulfur and Category:Trisulfur are actually allotropes of sulfur, not sister-cats of Category:Allotropes of sulfur). The word "forms" is vague, whereas "en:allotropes" is well-defined, and "Allotropes of..." seems to be the standard pattern for individual elemental subcats of Category:Allotropy. DMacks (talk) 15:19, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
@DMacks: Closed (no objections) Josh (talk) 18:21, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
just a translation of Category:Standard Model (physics) Geek3 (talk) 18:14, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
@Geek3: Closed (no objections) Josh (talk) 19:11, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
What is the difference between this category "Category:Saturday Morning" and the category "Category:Saturday morning"? Mjrmtg (talk) 12:18, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
- Nothing. I would suggest, however, that we delete both. I don't see anything there that is specifically about saturday morning. Hotel walls don't look any different on Saturday morning than they do on Sunday morning or Wednesday morning. - Themightyquill (talk) 13:16, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
- I agree, and we should do the same with Category:Sunday Morning. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:52, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
- Maybe this one was intended to be a proper noun but that's unlikely given it was created in 2012 while the lower case one was only created a few weeks ago. I think we need to Delete both and the other categories. If kept this one should be redirected to the lower case version since "morning" isn't a proper noun unlike Category:Duck Sauce, while Category:Duck sauce also isn't. Like the seasons categories this seems to be w:WP:TRIVIALCAT since unless the topic is strongly associated with time, such as events that specifically take place in the morning or things to do with light at different times of the day it doesn't seem relevant per Auntof. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:07, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
- Maybe this one was intended to be a proper noun but that's unlikely given it was created in 2012 while the lower case one was only created a few weeks ago. I think we need to
- I agree, and we should do the same with Category:Sunday Morning. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:52, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
@Mjrmtg, Themightyquill, Auntof6, and Crouch, Swale: Closed (no objections; delete) Josh (talk) 19:21, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
The redundant category. All subcategories should be deleted. Generally we don't categorise objects by file type Estopedist1 (talk) 09:06, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
@Estopedist1: Closed (no objetions) Josh (talk) 20:17, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Why do we need this cat and Category:M110A1 Squad Designated Marksman Rifle is Category:M110A1 Squad Designated Marksman Rifle not enough? Sanandros (talk) 12:32, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
@Sanandros: Closed (no objections to merge) Josh (talk) 21:54, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Duplicates its parent category, Category:Autographs, which is about "...autographs. An autograph is a document transcribed entirely in the handwriting of its author," Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:40, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
- Doesn't duplicate anything: I'm handling the recategorisations currently, please let a person work without bugging them with off-topic comments: look up any dictionary, and the complete description at the top of the category:Autographs page: Autograph has two meanings: signature and manuscript. --Francis Schonken (talk) 20:12, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
- Suggest a WP:SNOW close if possible. --Francis Schonken (talk) 20:18, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
- I suggest Francis respect the comments and edits of other editors in this situation. He is not alone is trying to clear up the confusion, and has edit warred removal of another editor's tags documenting some concerns. The articles could be merged since autograph and holograph have much the same meaning these days. Littleolive oil (talk) 21:16, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
- A response to the above post has been made, but on en.Wikipedia. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:22, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- I suggest Francis respect the comments and edits of other editors in this situation. He is not alone is trying to clear up the confusion, and has edit warred removal of another editor's tags documenting some concerns. The articles could be merged since autograph and holograph have much the same meaning these days. Littleolive oil (talk) 21:16, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
- See explanations given at Wikidata:Wikidata:Project chat#Autograph and autograph-manuscripts. If desirable I'll repeat them here, but if the explanation there suffices I don't see a need to double work. --Francis Schonken (talk) 09:37, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- Anyway, per above, and the explanations linked to: oppose undoing my work of creating and filling the Autograph manuscripts category at commons. --Francis Schonken (talk) 09:37, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing, Francis Schonken, and Littleolive oil: Closed (no need for three discussion; subsuming into single discussion at Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/11/Category:Autographs) Josh (talk) 22:27, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Do we need this category? en:Hi-Fi is connected with Category:Hi-Fi equipment. We have not categories category:Hi-Fi, category:High fidelity, category:High Fidelity Estopedist1 (talk) 07:24, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
@Estopedist1: Closed (no objections; merge Category:Hi-Fi audio into Category:Hi-Fi equipment) Josh (talk) 22:06, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Bad name. en:Jain redirects to Jainism, hence category:Audio files of Jainism? All audio files are pronunciation, hence maybe only the category:Hindi pronunciation? Estopedist1 (talk) 07:43, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, and copy to Category:Audio files about religion. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:38, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
@Estopedist1 and Themightyquill: Closed (no objections; merge Category:Jain audios into category:Hindi pronunciation and Category:Audio files about religion) Josh (talk) 22:14, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Rename Category:Estrada da Baía de Nossa Senhora da Esperança, Macau Themightyquill (talk) 08:35, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- The same goes for all subcategories of Category:Streets in Macau by name. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:36, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
@Themightyquill: Closed (no objections; rename) Josh (talk) 22:20, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Rename to Category:Orthogonal coordinate systems as there are many kinds of it. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:38, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
@1234qwer1234qwer4: Closed (no objections) Josh (talk) 22:34, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Duplicates Category:Autographs and/or Category:Signatures Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:16, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- This is a legit subcat of autographs (not all autographs are or have signatures), and a legit subcat of signatures (not all signatures are autographs). See also,
- Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/11/Category:Autograph manuscripts
- Wikidata:Wikidata:Project chat#Autograph and autograph-manuscripts (for the background explanation on this).
@Pigsonthewing, Francis Schonken, and Littleolive oil: Closed (no need for three discussion; subsuming into single discussion at Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/11/Category:Autographs) Josh (talk) 22:27, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
I suggest that this cat and category:Illustrations files needing categories as of 2018 to be deleted and all illustrations files to be moved in the new category: category:Uncategorized illustrations files. See that these are only subcategories in the category:All media needing categories as of 2018 Estopedist1 (talk) 15:19, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- no objections. I created the category:Uncategorized illustrations--Estopedist1 (talk) 16:24, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
| Category:Uncategorized illustrations | Merge into | Category:Illustrations | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| @Estopedist1: I think both the original as well as category:Uncategorized illustrations are unnecessary and could be counter-productive. These files should simply be placed in Category:Illustrations, otherwise they remain hidden in this maintenance category. Categories like this may seem like a good way to help clean up a big category, but really it is just hiding the mess instead of dealing with it and ultimately it will be longer before these files are properly sorted and made use of. | |||
| Josh (talk) 22:36, 2 January 2020 (UTC) | |||
- ideally of course, but it means that many categories would be permanently overcrowded. For example, think about category:Media of Russia to be categorised. All of this should be in the category:Russia. In addition, we probably do not need Category:To be categorised, because all uncategorised files should be put into main categories--Estopedist1 (talk) 08:08, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- in this case I support upmerging per user:Joshbaumgartner. Merging should be done by the bot--Estopedist1 (talk) 14:14, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Done: Original category deleted per move that was not objected. Proposal to move Category:Uncategorized illustrations to Category:Illustrations approved and to be commenced by bot. ~riley (talk) 09:20, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
unique category. Bad name. Many videos are meant to be educational. See also Category talk:Diagrams about education. Probalby the name category:Videos of education in Russia is also not exact Estopedist1 (talk) 07:41, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not sure the diagram conversation is relevant. Diagrams are inherently educational, whereas plenty of videos are not intended to be educational. That said, if the existing content actually fits category:Videos of education in Russia and no one objects, I don't have a problem with the move. - Themightyquill (talk) 11:23, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
| Category:Educational videos from Russia | Delete | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Category:Educational videos from Russia, 2014 | Delete | ||
| Category:Educational videos from Russia, 2019 | Delete | ||
| @Themightyquill and Estopedist1: Unfortunately, it appears to solely be a series of videos provided by the 'Getaclass project', which is apparently based in Russia, to illustrate basic scientific concepts, probably aimed at classroom or other educational use. The videos all are under Category:Getaclass video project which is under Category:Videos from Russia by source so the Russia connection is already handled. The year-based cats are just uneccessary (all are in 2014 except one in 2019). | |||
| Josh (talk) 00:35, 3 January 2020 (UTC) | |||
Videos upmerged to Category:Getaclass video project. Closed. Per user:Joshbaumgartner--Estopedist1 (talk) 13:38, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
why not just Category:Baashha? Estopedist1 (talk) 20:46, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
redirected as suggested. Closed.--Estopedist1 (talk) 12:12, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Due to regional variation, vests is ambiguous (see en:Waistcoat) and redundant with Category:Waistcoats and Category:Tank tops. Convert to disambiguation page? Themightyquill (talk) 13:30, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: Agreed, not seeing any opposition, so go ahead with it. Josh (talk) 18:31, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
- Disagree; leave as is. The existing category seems to be an umbrella for various kinds of vests (with well over a dozen subcategories), and waistcoats are only a single subcategory of that (namely, a specific type of fitted vest). It seems fine as is, and otherwise the many regional types of vests are not properly waistcoats and should not be categorized as such. Morgan Riley (talk) 14:28, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- A clear definition would be very helpful AND correct links to Wikidata (and so to the Wikipedias). Because now the Wikidata link for Vests is to Waistcoat in EN-Wikipedia (a redirect from Vest), while in Commons Waistcoats is a subcategory of Vests. So my question is: what is the difference between Vest and Waistcoat? And can a waistcoat have sleeves as well, see media in Category:Knitted waistcoats? JopkeB (talk) 08:14, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- @JopkeB: I believe a waistcoat is universally a sleeveless piece of formal wear, part of a 3-piece suit. Vest, however, depends where you are. In North American english, it is a synonym for waistcoat, but also be lifevests and other Category:Protective vests and any really kind of sleeveless clothing going over a shirt like Category:Down vests. In British English, it seems vest is synonymous with Category:Tank tops (i.e. sleeveless clothing usually going under a shirt or worn as a shirt. My original proposal is impractical - it's easy to separate waistcoats from tank tops, but I'm not sure how to handle things like Category:Down vests which are neither.- Themightyquill (talk) 07:23, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
My conclusions for Commons, based on the answers and remarks of @Themightyquill: and @Morgan Riley: (and a little bit of EN-Wikipedia):
- There is no need anymore to convert Category:Vests into a disambiguation page.
- Vest is a sleeveless, upper-body piece of clothing and it is usually worn over a shirt and below a coat. "Vest" is the overall, umbrella concept. This should be the parent category. The other types of vests are subcategories of "Vests", like: Down vests (subcategory of Vests by material), Waistcoats, Sweater vests and Protective vests.
- A "Waistcoat" is a special type of vest: a formal vest, usually part of a 3-piece suit.
- A contemporary waistcoat can not have sleeves and is chic. But 16th- and 17th-century waistcoats can, so Category:Knitted waistcoats is a not bad name.
The three photos show Knitted cardigans (two) and Knitted sweaters (one). This category and its files need attention. (I took care of it, I think it has been solved. JopkeB, 12-4-2021.)
- A contemporary waistcoat can not have sleeves and is chic. But 16th- and 17th-century waistcoats can, so Category:Knitted waistcoats is a not bad name.
- There is not yet a final conclusion about "Tank top". In North American English and British English it has different meanings. My preferations (as a not native English speaker) for Commons: let's follow the EN-Wikipedia and the current images in Category:Tank tops:
- "Tank top" = a sleeveless shirt. If I look at the pictures in Category:Tank tops, I conclude: For sporters it is a part of their sports outfit, for others it might be an outerwear on hot days. You wear it directly on your skin. It is no subcategory of "Vest".
- "Sweater vest" = a sleeveless sweater. You wear it the same way as other vests: over a shirt (or another, thin, sweater). This is a subcategory of "Vest".
- Wikidata (and perhaps EN-Wikipedia) should be adjusted after we have reached a final conclusion.
Please add, correct and/or (dis) agree with these conclusions, so that we can reach an overall conclusion and close this discussion. JopkeB (talk) 08:32, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
- Since there was no reaction for over a month, I assume that I can close this discussion and implement the conclusions. JopkeB (talk) 09:36, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Conclusions: see 1-5 above, including suggestion 4. I have added definitions to the categories involved and adjusted several Wikidata items; there were no changes in the links to parent categories. JopkeB (talk) 09:53, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
should be joined with Category:Groups of numbers Jochen Burghardt (talk) 17:52, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- Is it better under Category:Groups of objects or under Category:Sets ? - Themightyquill (talk) 09:02, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Jochen Burghardt and Themightyquill:
Keep Sets and groups are not equal. Sets are a group which is defined. Category:Groups of numbers would be for any media depicting a collection of numbers, regardless of whether they are a defined set. Defined sets of numbers can be sorted into Category:Sets of numbers. Josh (talk) 00:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Joshbaumgartner: Can you explain how that separation would work in practice? What counts as a set vs a collection? - Themightyquill (talk) 08:27, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: We currently have Category:Groups and Category:Sets, and so the same logic used to determine categorization between these two would apply to Category:Groups of numbers and Category:Sets of numbers. To be a set, there must be a definition of the set (i.e. there would be some criteria for inclusion) and the members must all meet that criteria. Theoretically, any group could be defined as a set, should such definition be laid out and the criteria for membership be met, however, realistically we can apply notability to set definitions. Simply taking an image of seemingly random numbers and defining it as 'numbers that Josh likes' is not going to meet this threshold. I really don't know how important it is for us to divide sets and groups, but so long as we do so at the parent level, it would seem the same logic should apply to the 'of numbers' children. Josh (talk) 08:56, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Joshbaumgartner: Can you explain how that separation would work in practice? What counts as a set vs a collection? - Themightyquill (talk) 08:27, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Jochen Burghardt and Themightyquill:
stale discussion. I created DAB category:Sets. User:Joshbaumgartner's suggestion sounds reasonable. Hence - Keep, but both nominated categories' hatnotes to be added to clarify the situation--Estopedist1 (talk) 19:30, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
@Jochen Burghardt, Themightyquill, and Estopedist1: Closed (no consensus to merge) Josh (talk) 23:33, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
This was recently moved from Category:United States Navy training. But while this is training by the US Navy, little of it is taking place in the US. This should be moved back, or something, but the current name is wrong (it might work for a subcat) Andy Dingley (talk) 13:27, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
- The category is intended for training of the USN. And the USN trains all around the world. So this. move is not good, and should be moved back.Avron (talk) 13:32, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
- Even if we keep it i'd rename it in US Navy traning in the United States, could also be another navy which is training in the US.--Sanandros (talk) 16:28, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed, training conducted by the US Navy, and navy training which happens within the United States are two different things, so reorganize:
- Category:United States Navy training (navy training which is done by members of the United States Navy)
- Category:Navy training in the United States (navy training which is conducted within the territory of the United States)
- Category:United States Navy training in the United States (navy training which is done by members of the United States Navy within the territory of the United States)
- If there isn't sufficient media to support any of these, the category can be deleted. Josh (talk) 01:05, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- Yes your suggestion is good.--Sanandros (talk) 16:08, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- stale discussion. Support for @Joshbaumgartner's suggestions. I also noticed that enwiki has en:Category:United States Navy schools and training. Maybe can be useful to solve this military puzzle. Noticing also @Andy Dingley@Avron@Sanandros Estopedist1 (talk) 18:44, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- Somebody needs to do Joshs suggestion.--Sanandros (talk) 21:02, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- stale discussion.
- Yes your suggestion is good.--Sanandros (talk) 16:08, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed, training conducted by the US Navy, and navy training which happens within the United States are two different things, so reorganize:
- Even if we keep it i'd rename it in US Navy traning in the United States, could also be another navy which is training in the US.--Sanandros (talk) 16:28, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
@Andy Dingley, Avron, Sanandros, and Estopedist1: Closed (split and sort) Josh (talk) 05:37, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
...and various subcategories
We have "LGBT Pride" categories, "Gay Pride" categories", and others. These names are confusingly inconsistent, and in some cases outdated ("Birmingham Gay Pride" was the name in use in 2012; the 2019 event was branded simply "Birmingham Pride").
I defer to the community to decide what on an up-to-date, inclusive, and hopefully future-proof name, that can be applied to all such categories (except those about individual past events with more specific names). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:24, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - if you're issue is with particular categories wouldn't it be more sensible to address those instead (perhaps a Category:2012 Birmingham Gay Pride sub category should be created). Category:LGBT Pride is a long establshed category name and I can't see any reason to rename it. Sionk (talk) 13:16, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- No action now, request close to this discussion These various Wikipedia category names reflect the lack of consistency and frequent changes in real world names. Perhaps more than any other organization, the Wikipedia community has standing to impose standard naming conventions on the world for this and many other issues. At this time though, the Wikipedia community has no formal plans to develop original best practice recommendations for off-wiki use. If anyone wants to take up this discussion further then bring it to meta:Wikimedia LGBT+ for this specific case, or to a general Wikipedia community forum if anyone wants to discuss using Wikipedia to standardize global language more generally. Blue Rasberry (talk) 11:01, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: I would request that the pride parade category not be redirected to this category. Pride parades are often part of the larger pride festivities, for example we have Helsinki Pride (the whole week-long event in whatever year with its multiple events, including the pride parade) -> Helsinki Pride 2019 (the event in 2019) -> Helsinki Pride Parade 2019 (just the pride parade in 2019). Because of the redirect, I cannot back-categorize -> Pride Parades in 2019 and Pride Parades in Finland -> Pride Parades. I find this annoying. -Yupik (talk) 07:47, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Clearly there is no consensus for change here — OwenBlacker (talk; please ping me in replies) 21:48, 27 December 2022 (UTC)