User talk:Red Deathy
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[edit]FYI: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Socialist_Party_of_Great_Britain_(Reconstituted) —Psychonaut 16:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Calculation link
[edit]hello since you are interested in the calculation debate and identify yourself as a Marxist I wonder if you are aware of the contributions to the debate from a Marxist perspective by Pat Devine and his cohorts? http://www3.sympatico.ca/bernard.leask/renewal.html BernardL 13:06, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Tribunite
[edit]Howdy. Thanks for your interest in Tribunite. I've no problem whatsoever in just redirecting it to Tribune (magazine), however if we do that, IMHO it would be vital to add a few sentences to that article clarifying "what exactly is a Tribunite?" as opposed to "what is Tribune magazine?". Thanks. -- 201.50.123.251 13:18, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Catholoic apologias
[edit]I saw you made a sensible comment at Talk:Capitalism about this whole JBogdan effort to stick in this awful apologia for Catholic doctrine, that worst-of-all is written in the same register as a sermon or Catholic encyclical, rather than as a secular encyclopedia. I could use some help restoring the sensible, concise version, minus all the preaching, misrepresentation, and link-farm stuff to Vatican pages. Help? Please? LotLE×talk 13:22, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Nudge on silly Ultramarine chart
[edit]I can't get rid of it again without 3RR (she made a false report already, by adding in edits to completely unrelated sections). So I was hoping you'd be so kind as to remove the eyesore of the conceptual incoherent and unrelated-to-article chart of "GDP since Christ" from Capitalism. LotLE×talk 01:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- She added it again!
LTV
[edit]Red deathy, Thanks for the contributions to the article and discussion over at LTv. I don't always have the strength to engage themm on every single point. I feel the criticims section could be imporved greatly, but leave it to the usenet crowd to simply post their commentaries. Thanks again.--Cplot 07:49, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Recent edit
[edit]I loved the commentary on your recent edit [1] at STV: "RV - your grammar's rubbisher". You just made my hour. CRGreathouse (talk | contribs) 15:51, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
UM the chartist
[edit]I thought unprotection was premature. Her first action on Capitalism, as I would have thought, was inserting the same chart that at least a half dozen other editors have opposed both as not being relevant to the article and as violating WP:NOR (and that no one else supports). I'm pretty sure that as long as it is unprotected, she'll make the same change 3 times (but not 4 times) in every 24 hour period. LotLE×talk 20:18, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Arrow's theorem
[edit]I've seen you posting on voting articles (one of the few, it seems) and I thought I'd sollicit your opinion on changes I intend to make to Arrow's theorem. I don't know if you have any familiarity with it, but I hope that if you don't you'll give me an idea of what I need to revise to make it at least a little comprehensible. My work is hiding on my user namespace at User:CRGreathouse/Arrow until I get the bugs ironed out.
If you'd be so kind as to leave some words on that page's talk I'd appreciate it. CRGreathouse (t | c) 19:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Are you...
[edit]...the LuBBS (Alumni) Red Deathy?-Localzuk (talk) 16:51, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- Thought so. Small world isn't it.. Or should I say small internet. -Localzuk (talk) 16:30, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Capitalism portal created
[edit]Hello...I created the Capitalism portal. I'm just not sure what to put there exactly. I also haven't announced it since I feel like I should know what to put, but I don't. Can you help? Hires an editor 19:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Dealing with disruptive editors
[edit]In addition to what I posted on Talk:Socialist Studies (1989), you may wish to check out Wikipedia:Disruptive editing, which has a recommended series of steps for dealing with persistently disruptive editors. —Psychonaut 02:53, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Labour Theory of Value
[edit]Thank you for your measured response. I appreciate it. I still have lots of questions, though, but I think it best if I drop the whole issue. I'm not sure I take your point about the usage of talk pages. I'm still fairly new to Wikipedia, and I was under the impression that talk pages were also about raising issues arising from an article; I've certainly used them for this purpose elsewhere, and have generally met with a positive response. I was, must say, surprised at the discourtesy of the other user you mention. Anyway, once again my thanks. White Guard 21:59, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment. Just happy to help out somewhere where people are actually being nice to each other. MartinDK 12:11, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
mutualism
[edit]That's not social control. That's individual control. The community is not considered to own the land. The individual takes control of the land by using or occupying it. It's like Lockeian property ethics, except they think that if the individual doesn't use his land continually it reverts to not being owned by anyone. Then it is again open to individualized appropriation. As far as other means of production, such as machines, they support it as true private property. Anarcho-capitalism 17:01, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
YOUR comma
[edit]It was clearly your comma. You obviously have no grasp on reality, you b... <admin's note - Donnacha has been banned again for what he was going to say> :) Donnacha 16:54, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Mediation
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[edit]Paradox of value?
[edit]Hey Red Deathy! Are you aware that your userpage lists paradox of value twice under "pages I've edited?" That's okay and all; who knows, maybe you've edited it twice(?)! I'm not gonna be bold on someone else's page, especially a fellow Marxist, so... take it easy! --Dialecticas 14:11, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Kiel Mutiny
[edit]Hi, I've seen that you translated the German wikipedia article on the November Revolution 1918. Yesterday I made some changes on the German wikipedia pages concerning the Matrosenaufstand in Kiel, because it was carrying a number of mistakes. I strictly oriented my corrections at the thesis written by Dirk Dähnhardt from 1978: "Revolution in Kiel", who did a great job going through all military files of that time. I could also try to translate those chapters from the German wikipedia into English, but of course you would be very welcome to do it, if you like. Rgds, Klaus —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kuhl-k (talk • contribs) 10:03, 18 February 2007 (UTC). Sorry forgot to sign: --Kuhl-k 10:05, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Check your edit summaries
[edit]The 'popups' script seems to be broken. Just thought you might want to know – Qxz 11:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Socialism Introduction Revert
[edit]Please see my message on the talk page. I would be obliged if you would not revert things without notice.
--Train guard 16:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Please see my response in the talk page.
--Train guard 10:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Socialist Party of Great Britain debates
[edit]An article that you have been involved in editing, Socialist Party of Great Britain debates, has been listed by another user for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Socialist Party of Great Britain debates. Thank you. —Psychonaut 16:41, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Could you help me with this?
[edit]Hello, I was wondering if you could help me understand dialectics. The way it's presented in the dialectics article is kind of hard to penetrate, could you explain? Thank you. --Onias 19:44, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Category for deletion
[edit]Hello -- a category that you created, Category:Economic problems, is currently up for deletion. Just thought that you might want to vote on it. G'day. --Wassermann 06:43, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
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BNP infobox
[edit]And much tidier it looks too. Well done. Any infobox is, of necessity, going to give no real detail about the article, whatever the subject, so better to keep them all as short as possible. Personally, I'm not sure that infoboxes aren't more of a confusin than a help in all sorts of articles. Emeraude 16:26, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
IMNSHO - I should have got that! Emeraude 16:26, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Single Transferable Vote
[edit]There is a link I would like to add to the list of proponent group on Single Transferable Vote but I have a conflict of interest. The link is to STV Action http://www.STVAction.org.uk a site for which I am the webmaster. I noticed you had edited the STV article a lot and so after reading WP:COI (conflict of interest policy) I thought I would ask you to add it if you felt it was useful.
Many Thanks,
John Cross 21:48, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
NOR
[edit]There has been a big debate over this policy. I think you have valuable experience that makes you an important interlocutor on this matter. I suggest you first go here for a very concise account, and then depending on how much time you have read over the WP:NOR policy and the edit conflicts that led to its being protected, or the last talk to be archived ... or just go straight to the talk page. If you have time Slrubenstein | Talk 16:28, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
BNP article
[edit]Look man, there is no need for this to get nasty. We both are capable of making arguments for our case and the problem is that our debates are very hypothetical and open to interpretation. I am willing to make a concession of having Fascism but with the template next to it.--Sviatoslav86 16:36, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Please ref: to your RV edit of BNP page on 13:55 13 Nov 2007 , please define what a "source" is in this case. If you read my insertion, I have not cited anything external to wikipedia to make it unverified, so my source itself is wikipedia, if you know how to read it. Please understand this, I'm not seeing this for the first time on Bath,Somerset page and it is important for the whole wiki community to understand in this 'symmetric behavioural pattern'. Smet 14:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
BNP again
[edit]You beat me to reverting the removal of the Fascist Project box on the talk page. I notice it is also missing from the article as well. Interestingly, BNP was removed from List of fascist movements by country U-Z back in May on the gounds that consensus in the discussion page was that "there has been much discussion on the talk page, and the consensus is that the BNP is not fascist". I've reverted that. Emeraude 11:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
London meetup
[edit]FYI: Wikipedia talk:Meetup/London#New Year Meetup —Psychonaut (talk) 10:16, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
London Meetup - January 12, 2008
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In relation to vandalism and Communism.
[edit]At the time I made the revert, Jimmy Da Tuna(?!?)'s changes were primarily unsourced. I agree with Jimmy Da Tuna(?!?) actually, but his changes were in part unsourced, in part sourced in such a way to violate Wikipedia policies and some changes were unexplained. At that stage I considered the changes vandalism, though later edits obviously shows his changes have some merit, despite being rather clumsy. Dylansmrjones (talk) 08:27, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Well...
[edit]One should assume Good Faith in situations where assuming good faith is reasonable. But then we are talking about systematical whitewashing from Socialists of the Socialists' crimes against humanity and equally systematical attacks on national and semi-national groups by the international socialists, one can no longer assume good faith but must rely on WP:SPADE - You and VoluntarySlave ought to cease editing political articles except from simple typo's since none of you are capable of being strictly neutral. Your own definition of Fascism is radically different than the scholarly definitions. Your definition is a hardcore marxist definition, and as such invalid here. The same would go for a liberalist definition of Fascism. What we must do is to stick 110% to hardcore scholarly definitions, and unfortunately for Wikipedia you don't. I'm sorry I'm appearing harsh, but I'm fed up with Communist and Nazi History Revisionism and your mutual hatred. Wikipedia is not the place for those battles. Dylansmrjones (talk) 16:47, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
BNP
[edit]Those sources are not third party sources as you claim. Dave renton is a left-wing actvist, Mike Cronin is an Irish republican and the source by Thurlow is outdated.
Hello, I took the time to try and contribute to the sand box page you set up, it looks like me and you are the only two active users at the moment. I combined the claims of repression of free speech section into the opposition section and cut down the dead wood from the structure section. I made a couple of changes to two of the titles, (1) association with violence to association with criminality, the text covers criminal convictions which are violent and otherwise while the title did not and (2) opposition to homosexuality is in the policey section and is a bit unfair to use the title in a policy section then source individual member who have made homophobic remarks, but im open to correction on this. I also added some caution tags to statements that are not sourced. U6j65 (talk) 22:24, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Economic calculation problem
[edit]Thankyou for telling me. Continue the talk @talkpage? Economic calculation problem Larklight (talk) 15:17, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Invitation to Wikipedia meetup in London
[edit]Date: 13:00 onwards, Sunday 10 August 2008
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Hi Bill
[edit]Interesting to see you popup on the Talk:Communism page. I knew you through the spgb. Don't think we ever met face to face but certainly remember you from the forum. You 'may' remember me as Kevin Giles or kdgiles or even 'St.Kevin the Nutter' during a debate on religion some years ago. kimdino (talk) 12:22, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Alphabetization and collation
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Capitalism
[edit]An editor is questioning the lack of sources in the lead for Capitalism. If you would like to discuss this please reply on the talk page. The Four Deuces (talk) 03:57, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Being that i saw your "great" work on the Socialist Party of Great Britain, and you proclaiming yourself to be a marxist. I'm wondering if you'd want to join the newly created WikiProject Socialism... --TIAYN (talk) 20:34, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
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The Promise
[edit]I just read through the whole recent edit history of The Promise, and also comments at Harry's Place. I just wanted to say what a good job you did of defending Wikipedia at HP, altho some people are obviously un-convinceable, and also of judicious editing of the article itself. Thank you.BobFromBrockley (talk) 15:21, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
CounterPunch
[edit]As you are a generally sensible editor with no dog in this race, I'd be grateful if you looked at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:CounterPunch#Moving_on BobFromBrockley (talk) 11:02, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
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BNP sandbox
[edit]Hi, a number of changes have been made to the sandbox version here, User:Red Deathy/Sand3, its mostly been neatened out and edited to reduce the size of the article. Can you let me know what you think in your own time. Thanks U6j65 (talk) 14:29, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, im willing to work with you on the BNP article if you want to, I cant do it on my own. It will need a sold contribution and seeing it through if its going to work though. U6j65 (talk) 17:39, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Proposed move and renaming
[edit]According to the American National Biography article we have misnamed this, as he is Bert, not Albert Levy. Levine, Allan E. "Bert "Yank" Levy". American National Biography on line. Oxford University Press. Retrieved April 16, 2014. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:53, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
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Meetup Invitation Hi Red Deathy, You are cordially invited to an opportunity to meet active Wikimedians in and around London face-to-face. Description: Informal afternoon in a pub, children welcome. When? Sunday, 8th March from 1 pm. Where? Penderel's Oak, 283-288 High Holborn, London, WC1V 7HP.
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