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Confederate Army

I object. Recently an anonymous editor reverted your "strengths and weaknesses" section in toto at Confederate Army. I liked it. Sounded right out of John Keegan's "The American Civil War: a military history". Deletion was excused by its not having a citation -- and poorly written ???? Okay, I would have left out "interestingly". --- really? poorly written?? -- do you have a chum following your contributions at WP and pulling your chain? And--do you have a source readily at hand to restore the passage? With interest, I am TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 06:37, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Valetude -

I've posted some material specifically in response to your inquiries regarding the events at Chappaquiddick in 1969. You can view them at Talk:Chappaquiddick incident.

I was looking at your Userpage and we appear to have a number of interests in common: US History and English Literature. Visit my site User:36hourblock to see what I've been working on lately.

Confederate Army

Sometimes administrators are listed in the Talk page heading. There is an automatic interest group in the listed Wikiprojects or in this case "Task Force" at the for a third party take on the issue ... toggle [show] on the Additional Information line in the header box at Talk:Confederate States Army. They should be listed in a Request for Comment (RFC).

When I recently went to the WP:Teahouse for a strategy to avoid controversy, the advice was first use a Request for Comment on the Talk page, see the WP:RFC page, where it shows you how to add a notice at multiple Wikiproject pages.

That assumes good faith, first try to talk it out by calling attention to the issue, --- way before anybody gets warned/blocked for edit warring WP:edit warring (three reversions within 24 hours, or without discussion on the Talk page) or the back-and-forth becomes eligible for the 'dispute resolution' WP:dispute resolution when it becomes prolonged. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 08:21, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Orwell

Thank you for your kind words. I blush.

In "Answers" you report that you attended English boarding school. I wonder if you've read much of George Orwell's works? I was thinking specifically of his autobiographical essay of his schools days at St. Cyprians, "Such, Such Were the Joys". But perhaps you've written your own memoirs on the topic, or is that considered passé? 36hourblock (talk) 20:46, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Never was a great Orwell fan. When he was deliberately freezing and starving in the North of England, most people were laughing behind his back. I was raised on Wodehouse, H.G. Wells and Conan Doyle, especially his science fiction (the Professor Challenger stories.) Plus various French and Spanish authors. 86.156.61.41 (talk) 14:02, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(Sorry, you'll guess that was from me!) Valetude (talk) 16:30, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I, too, immersed myself in the works of H. G. Wells as a boy, especially a collection called "28 stories". I committed to memory the first lines of "The Time Machine": "THE TIME TRAVELLER (for so it will be convenient to speak of him) was expounding a recondite matter to us. His grey eyes shone and twinkled, and his usually pale face was flushed and animated...." Orwell joins us in praise for Wells. He recalls, "I had read and re-read the entire published works of Shaw, Wells, and Galsworthy (at that time still regarded as dangerously ‘advanced’ writers..."

As for Doyle, I recently reread some of his Sherlock Holmes adventures. They still delight!

On the public's perception of Orwell, that "most people were laughing behind his back" when he was collecting material as a journalist among the homeless and unemployed...well, I hope you won't include that in the wiki article without a couple citations.

As for Wodehouse, his rather naive cooperation with Nazi propogandists while interned was entirely innocent, and the charges of collaboration were grossly unjust. His actions, however, might reasonalby be described as "laughable". As Oscar Wilde points out, "There is no sin except stupidity". 36hourblock (talk) 22:43, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi - Please can you add a page number (from Montgomery's memoirs) to the reference you have just added to this article. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 17:42, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I copied it some time ago from the Project Gutenberg ebook version, which appears to have been removed from their list. I don't know whether page-numbers from ebooks are allowable anyway. Valetude (talk) 18:40, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - No problem. I have found it now and inserted the page number. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 19:14, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Reply is in my talk page. Hal Jespersen (talk) 15:11, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The needless section heading establishes a lede, but its not worth edit warring over Victuallers (talk) 19:05, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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You seem to have minor edit turned on by default in your preferences? It should only be used for corrections of grammar or typographical errors and such like, not for introduction or removal of content. DrKiernan (talk) 16:58, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Dr.K. I had assumed it was meant to indicate less-important interventions, that should not trouble the editorial authorities. But I will keep that in mind from now on. Thanks again. Valetude (talk) 23:25, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Vicksburg July 4

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https://share.icloud.com/photos/0BjqmRgiRV3zaYM78sJKAA-7g#Vicksburg,_MS

This is from the Old Courthouse Museum in Vicksburg, last week.

According to Samuel Mitcham, Vicksburg: The Bloody Siege that Turned the Tide of the Civil War (2018), "It was World War II before the city celebrated the Fourth of July again on a regular basis. Prior to that, all businesses—including the banks—remained open." https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/04/why-city-of-vicksburg-did-not-celebrate-july-4th-for-81-years-after-civil-war/

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Lee family in the American Civil War (November 25)

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Copied from Brendan Bracken talk page:

"A burning question...

... to my mind is: where and how did Bracken get the capital to launch his English career? Where would an Irish-Australian vagabond, no matter how resourceful, get that kind of money? How were his funds transferred?

For that matter, what about his banking records throughout?

Does anyone else find his whole career more than a little suspect? Shir-El too 07:51, 27 November 2021 (UTC)"

We seem to share an interest. Cheers! Shir-El too 07:59, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Crittenden family in the American Civil War (February 7)

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I don't think that this is ready for mainspace yet, for a few reasons:

First, this should be about the whole family, and not just during the Civil War, like other "foobar family" articles, it is too specific as written at the moment. It currently also doesn't add anything beyond what is already on the articles that it links to, so lacks a purpose, and would be unlikely to survive AfD in its current state for that reason. It's best chance would be a "No consensus" close, because no-one would quite be able to decide where to merge it to.

Second, I question, is their association as a family as notable? I would like to see some assertion in the article of why the entire family was notable, and not just a list of members and a summary, otherwise it isn't really adding anything more than what already exists in the articles it links to, do you see my point? I do think that the Crittendens as a whole may well be a notable topic, but this article doesn't really assert that. There are families with multiple notable members, which don't necessarily warrant articles for the whole family.

Finally, surely better sources exist for these people? If everyone named here has their own article? I really think that the sourcing isn't sufficient for the amount of content covered, and could be a lot better, as sources certainly exist, it's just a matter of finding them. As the Civil War once again (regrettably) becomes a more and more controversial and polarised topic, articles with overlap of it, such as this one, will need to be better and better sourced.

To get an idea of how this sort of "foobar family" article should look, try the Roosevelt family, Kennedy family or Rockefeller family articles, that might give you some ideas. Maybe ask for some help from other editors, who know the topic well, (and may also have something useful on their bookshelf?)

I hope you don't mind me leaving such a lengthy statement here, but I feel that giving you all the reasoning behind this decline will help you to improve this, and bring it back bigger and better!

I look forward to reading all about this fascinating family sometime soon! Cheerio and happy editing!

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