On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@debian.org>
wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 05:20:21PM +0200, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> > "If you feel to dispute this please take your *well-formed* and
> > *well-thought* arguments to debian-legal."
>
> ... to discuss it. d-legal is a proper venue for *discussing* it, but
> it's not the right one to discuss the actual critera for archive
> fitness.
>
> Which is likely why you didn't get a reply.
>
nobody participated in the discussion from your side.
>
> > So I was under the impression that debian-legal is the correct list to
> > contact.
>
> debian-legal has no delegated authority to make such decisions for the
> archive.
>
I didn't said anything about debian-legal having the authority to do any
decision.
Ondrej claimed that the decision was made on legal concerns, and that any
further discussion should happen on debian-legal, which kind-of made sense.
From your reply I'm not sure what are you arguing about. That this isn't a
legal problem, so no reason to discuss it on debian-legal, or you think
that there isn't much to discuss there, because you have no power over the
decision?
I've find it a bit disturbing, that ftpmasters can make a decision on legal
grounds(which is the probably the highest priority for debian as far as I'm
concerned), without any backing from debian-legal(the original thread one
debian-legal got a single reply which doesn't supported the reject.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/08/msg00130.html),
years later
ftpmasters can decide to drop a bunch of packages based on the legal
problem and point to debian-legal@ for further discussion where first
nobody replies, then we are told that it isn't the proper place to write
and that we should write to the same people who made the decision. o.O
> > From the mails from Ondřej it seems that the reject decision was made
> by
> > the ftpmaster team, but as the argument for the decision was a legal
> one,
> > so I think that debian-legal is appropriate.
>
> ... to discuss it. Not decide on critera.
>
sigh.
you are trying a nice job making any kind of discussion as talking to a
brick wall.
where did I said anything about you making any decision?
I was talking about why did it seemed reasonable to follow Ondrej's advice
and write to debian-legal@ to discuss a decision made on legal grounds to
discuss the decision and find a solution satisfying all parties.
--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu