Re: Debian and the PHP license

From: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 00:21:27 +0000
Subject: Re: Debian and the PHP license
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Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com> writes:

> I see absolutely no problem with PHP projects distributed from
> *.php.net carrying the PHP license. The license talks about "PHP
> Software" which we define as software you get from/via *.php.net.

Specifically, the license text <URL:http://php.net/license/3_01.txt> has
this clause:

  6. Redistributions of any form whatsoever must retain the following
     acknowledgment:
     "This product includes PHP software, freely available from
     <http://www.php.net/software/>".

Nowhere is “PHP software” defined in the license. Will you update the
license to make your above definition explicit in the license terms?

> We support external repos such as github, but they are still linked
> back to php.net via their pecl.php.net entries, for example. For
> things that aren't distributed via pecl.php.net, pear.php.net or
> www.php.net itself, I can see the argument, but those are not projects
> we can do anything about.

The problem is exacerbated, though, by the specific license terms.

The license terms do not apply sensibly outside your stated definition;
yet many software works begin outside that definition, and only later
make their way to the locations you mention. This distinction is *not*
the case for more widely-accepted license terms, so the distinction is
easy to miss.

This does not need to be the case; it is made the case by the specific
terms of this license. That is a problem which can be addressed by
changing the terms of the license to be generally applicable.

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Ben Finney



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