Jude Law’s Jedi befriends kids lost in space in Star Wars: Skeleton Crew trailer

JohnCarter17

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Yeah, Temple of Doom was terrible, for a lot of reasons. When showing my childhood classics to my kid, I did the same thing as your dad—we watched all the Star Wars, Raiders, an the third Indy movie.

However, I was surprised by how much I enjoyed the newest Indiana Jones movie. The de-aged prologue was pretty bad, but once you get past that, it’s a really fun adventure with a completely bonkers ending. I’m bummed that it bombed, as I’d love to have seen more movies with Phoebe Waller-Bridge taking over for Indy.
I commend your deft omission of the 4th Indy movie.
 
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Have any of you watched The Goonies lately?

It is awful.
What, is The Goonies not "good enough" for you!? (Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!)
Hopefully, just once, they have Jaleel White's character ask, "Did I do that?"
I'm expecting "gotta go fast".
 
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This actually looks kinda fun. Doesn't look like it takes itself too seriously, so a bit of silliness and suspension of belief is fine. Unlike Ahsoka, which took itself really seriously and was entirely crap. I'm fine with serious – Andor and Rogue One were awesome, after all – and I don't mind there being both silly and serious outings in the Star Wars universe. They have different audiences, of course.
 
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I commend your deft omission of the 4th Indy movie.
The 4th one wasn't that bad, it could have done with being about 30 minutes shorter but it was an good Sunday afternoon film. I don't know why they don't set an Indiana Jones set in South America, it would be dead easy to do. Puts fingers in my ears la la la la
 
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I'm a jagged, fickle Star Wars fan because when I was young, the Star Wars movies seemed magical. But now that I've grown up, Star Wars somehow seems childish. It's certainly not me who changed, so it must be Star Wars.
When I was a child, x was magical.
Now that I am an adult, x seems childish.

Seems like x must be aimed at children, then. Not that there's anything wrong with being an adult and liking stuff made for kids. Just don't hold it to the same standards that you would if it was meant for an audience with a more nuanced view of the world.


(whooshed pretty hard here)
 
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You do realize that Ke Huy Quan won a Young Artist Award and was nominated for a Saturn Award for his performance as Short Round, right? And he was also in The Goonies? (What to speak of his Oscar-winning performance in Everything Everywhere All At Once as well as his outstanding supporting performance in Loki S02.)
The bar for those awards must be staggeringly low. Temple of Doom would be bad without Short Round, but that character sure doesn't help.

I didn't say child actors stay bad, just that most of them are bad when they are children. I'm sure having parts written by adults doesn't help.
 
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Short Round was definitely not the problem with Temple of Doom. The irritating director's wife and the racist portrayal of (famously vegetarian) people as monkey brain connoisseurs was a bigger problem.
George Lucas was clearly going through Some Shit as far as women were concerned at that moment, but it was weirdly discordant to have a strong, hard-drinkin', ass-kicking female protagonist in Raiders replaced for no apparent reason by a shrill, wimpy, grating character that seemingly existed to piss everyone else off.
 
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George Lucas was clearly going through Some Shit as far as women were concerned at that moment, but it was weirdly discordant to have a strong, hard-drinkin', ass-kicking female protagonist in Raiders replaced for no apparent reason by a shrill, wimpy, grating character that seemingly existed to piss everyone else off.
Temple of Doom was set in 1935 , Raiders was set in 1936. Karen Allen's character couldn't be in Temple of Doom without retconing Raiders.
 
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I recently did a rewatch of the three Indy movies (and there were only ever 3) and Short Round was probably the only redeeming thing about Temple. It is not a movie that aged well (nor was it that well regarded in the first place).

It made me realise why my dad and I watched Star Wars and the first and third Indy movie a thousand times, but Temple of Doom never really entered the rotation.
Temple of Doom was probably some of John Williams' best work. The Parade of the Slave Children is right up there with The Imperial March and Asteroid Field from Empire.

Aside from that, this looks like it could be fun! It doesn't have to be perfect or amazing, it just needs to be fun.
 
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A New Hope with its primary target audience being tweens, a classic fable dressed in sci-fi tropes that had enough charm to be interesting to a wider audience than just the target one.

It's like watching Pixar movies which are aimed for kids but have a strong enough story beat to keep the adults in the room.

The trailer for Star Wars: Skelton Crew actually had more of an ET rather than a Goonies feel. It definitely felt like an eighties movie from the trailer and I can see why they would try and go back to the original core demographic.

The old sourpusses complaining about kids entertainment being made for kids really need to do some soul searching and get a hobby. The vibe you guys give off is Simpson's Comic Book Guy's sidekick.
I think the major problem is they are marketing Star Wars to the adults and lost the magic that the original 3 movies had. They were just campy fun. Then the prequels tried to hard to be more serious and there are parts of them that harken to the originals. The sequels were just a CGI fest with recycled stories.

The Animated shows were decent. Mandalorian started out good, wend off the rails a bit and then sorta got a little better in season 3.

Ashoka was OK.

The rest are take it or leave it. Although I can't comment much on the Acolyte because I couldn't make it thorough episode one. Thought it would be closer to the original Star Wars and less modern Disney.

That said, all of that rant was in relation to Star Wars. I left Andor out because that could stand alone and was a decent show for adults. Reminds me of Empire Strikes Back. More somber but tells a story.
 
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As a once-diehard StarWars fan who can't unbleach eps 7-9 from their eyes, I've enjoyed the offshoot stories more than I thought I would. I'll give this a shot. At some (distant) point I'd love them revisit the Skywalker arc and go into some post-Return of the Jedi Luke's adventures, kind of like ths stuff he was up to in heir to the empire.
 
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EnPeaSea

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When I was a child, x was magical.
Now that I am an adult, x seems childish.

Seems like x must be aimed at children, then. Not that there's anything wrong with being an adult and liking stuff made for kids. Just don't hold it to the same standards that you would if it was meant for an audience with a more nuanced view of the world.
Poe's Law and all, but the sarcasm was palpable and you are reiterating their real point.
 
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Smart producers find passionate creators who have a stories to tell, let them make movies or TV shows, and then sell that to make money.

Dumb producers pay hacks to churn out soulless slop until the well runs dry and then look around for something else to choke the life out of.

As a 'soft' Star Wars fan for most of my life, I could not possibly care less about the last five years of Star Wars films and TV shows, and this is no different.
Stop using that cheap and sloppy churned out vocabulary...
 
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Smart producers find passionate creators who have a stories to tell, let them make movies or TV shows, and then sell that to make money.

Dumb producers pay hacks to churn out soulless slop until the well runs dry and then look around for something else to choke the life out of.

As a 'soft' Star Wars fan for most of my life, I could not possibly care less about the last five years of Star Wars films and TV shows, and this is no different.
You should care about Andor. Everything else? Meh, generally, but there are some highlights, e.g. S1 (and I'd argue S2) of The Mandalorian.
 
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Original Trilogy establishes that Luke is the last Jedi. Prequel movies codifies this by showing the murder of all the Jedi. Disney buys Lucasfilm and erases this entirely so they can introduce a Jedi whenever they want. Is it really so difficult to tell stories that are in the distant past that don't screw with existing canon or the beloved EU?
 
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ThatEffer

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Poe's Law and all, but the sarcasm was palpable and you are reiterating their real point.
Poe's Law, indeed. After scrolling past so much self-serious chestbeating and rending of clothes over the direction of the property, I didn't see intelligence when it was right before me.
 
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Star Wars is at its best when it is a focused adventure story with some distant allusions to whatever it is that is going on in the universe, but doesn't really get into those weeds much.

Andor being the exception but Andor is so amazing that it gets to be the exception.
....cough cough... Rogue One ... cough cough...
 
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44% of them are... and there's nothing racist about saying that indians are "famously vegetarian".
From a BBC report:
If you go by three large-scale government surveys, 23%-37% of Indians are estimated to be vegetarian. By itself this is nothing remarkably revelatory.

But new research by US-based anthropologist Balmurli Natrajan and India-based economist Suraj Jacob, points to a heap of evidence that even these are inflated estimations because of "cultural and political pressures". So people under-report eating meat - particularly beef - and over-report eating vegetarian food.

Taking all this into account, say the researchers, only about 20% of Indians are actually vegetarian - much lower than common claims and stereotypes suggest.
(emphasis mine)
 
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Isn't every show out there to make money?
Literally yes unless we're including random small web projects, but I feel like it's possible to tell the difference between something that is the materialization of a vision and something that is the product of focus groups and data mining. Star Wars, Marvel, and.. most large franchises have felt like the latter for a long, long time.
 
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Have any of you watched The Goonies lately?

It is awful.
I watched it again as an adult and of course it didn’t work as well as when I first viewed it, when I was about the same age as the protagonists.

But it’s also not fair to compare it to the movies of today. Maybe you’re not doing this, though I think it’s natural to do so.

I think the fairest comparison is vs movies if its era. Here I think it compares much, much better. There really weren’t that many good movies back then IMO.

But stepping back from the film, I think the core story still works today, and it’s why I’m interested in this new Star Wars project.

Another movie that could have been used almost as a drop-in replacement for inspiration and thematic reasons is “Explorers.”

It was even released the same year as Goonies, and starred very young versions of Ethan Hawke and River Phoenix.

Basically, suburban boys discover space travel and adventure; I won’t spoil it.

I found Explorers worked much better for me as an adult than Goonies.
 
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