User talk:Samf4u

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Aeroperu Flight 603

Hello there Sam, I'd like to discuss with you about the summary of the crash of Flight 603. I would like to ask why spatial disorientation? I believe it was a factor of the accident as the crew did not know what their airspeed was or their altitude? I am just wondering thats all and i'd like to have a friendly conversation about it that's all. OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 16:05, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi @OrbitalEnd48401:, Thanks for your note here. Spatial disorientation is defined as the inability of a pilot to correctly interpret aircraft attitude, altitude or airspeed in relation to the Earth or other points of reference, which in broad terms may apply to Aeroperú Flight 603 but a loss of Situation awareness followed by controlled flight into terrain (or water in this case) is a better fit for the summary of this accident. The John F. Kennedy Jr. plane crash is a good example of a pilot affected by spatial disorientation while in control of an aircraft with fully functioning instruments. The crew of Aeroperú Flight 603 received confusing/false data from their instruments but were they suffering from spatial disorientation? They had functioning attitude indicators with the GPWS and radar altimeter also working. I firmly believe the aircraft could have been saved if the crew would have used these. Spatial disorientation is not mentioned anywhere in the official accident report but a lack of situation awareness is. Cheers and happy editing- Samf4u (talk) 17:18, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the information Sam! OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 10:26, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Photo request petition - please sign

Hi! Can you please sign the petition to TASS and RIAN requesting them to release certain historic photos (many of them from WWII) for Wikimedia by adding your signature to the signature section? Also, please do spread the word to other Wikipedians. Thanks, --PlanespotterA320 (talk) 02:28, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi @PlanespotterA320:, Be glad to.  Done- Samf4u (talk) 14:06, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

TASS and RIAN? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT, USE EXPANDERS. - RET394 61.0.202.146 (talk) 18:43, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Heads up re the above

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User:This Binbag. ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 17:50, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks much for your assistance with that @Bellezzasolo: - Samf4u (talk) 15:02, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Hey I’m mumtaz pls stop annoying me thx bye ♥

West Caribbean Airways Flight 9955

Thank you for adding that image and caption. However, even though the image you added is an LET L-410 Turbolet, that was not the aircraft involved. Its registration is HK-4146, not HK-4161. In addition, the aircraft was not in West Caribbean Airways livery and the phot was uploaded after the crash.. This is actual aircraft involved: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/424009 Tigerdude9 (talk) 20:44, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Tigerdude9, you are correct. Thanks for catching my mistake. - Samf4u (talk) 14:24, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Aéroperu 603 and CFIT

Hey Sam! Good seeing you, I appreciate so much with what you’ve done with aeroperu 603, it’s the accident that I’m most interested in. Anyways, I included it in the list of planes that have CFIT. But a user removed it as they claimed it wasn’t a CFIT accident. Well it is after your conclusion and I back you up 10000%. Anyways if you cold that’ll be ace.

Also good news! I left another talk message on Aeroperú 603 as I found the CVR on YouTube so I was thinking if we should include a link to it so viewers can listen to it. Links still there if you’d like to listen to it and to back your CFIT theory up. Thanks Alex :)

OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 22:41, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Say also, could you describe what these are and the difference please? Spatial disorientation and situation awareness? Thanks Alex :) OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 22:50, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi @OrbitalEnd48401:, While Aeroperú Flight 603 falls under CFIT I don't think it should be listed in the Controlled flight into terrain article because the crux of that accident is the tape on the Pitot-static system, unlike a "pure" CFIT like Air New Zealand Flight 901.

Study the whole report here https://www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/1719.pdf if you have not already done so.

I want to be very clear here: That Aeroperú Flight 603 falls under CFIT is not my theory, it is a fact that I found in the accident report. Please always remember this project is an encyclopedia based on reliable sources and no original research is allowed. See Wikipedia:NOR. I see you have been warned about this in the past. Please be careful. As far as the difference between spatial disorientation and situation awareness I already explained my thoughts on that, see above. - Samf4u (talk) 19:02, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

I did read that report you linked on the talk page which is why I supported you on that issue. Regarding the incident of the accident I have read a lot on it so links to u info regarding the crash are not needed but thanks.

And I’ve made my own notes on both spatial disorientation and situation awareness. Thanks for the help man

OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 20:30, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Hey Sam, I was wondering if I can include the CVR? See the pages talk page for details. OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 09:38, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi @OrbitalEnd48401:, Sorry for not getting back to you earlier, I've been out of town with very limited internet access. Concerning adding the CVR recording from Youtube to Aeroperú Flight 603: That was added to the article sometime before June of 2011 under the "External links" section at the bottom beneath the "References" section.

May I ask a favor from you? Could you slow down a little and make sure your edits are free of mistakes and learn more about how we do things here. I can see you are anxious to help but honestly you're ruffling a few feathers. A great place for you to start would be to read and fully understand WikiProject Aviation Style guide and Layout of Accidents. If you have any questions please drop me a line here, thanks. - Samf4u (talk) 20:49, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Synchronization gear

Hi Sam, I think your revert there was rather bitey, seeing as it would've been relatively easy to fix that user's mistake, which I more or less did before noticing your edit. At least it would have been easier to fix than that user's other edit. Graham87 07:32, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Graham87:, I agree, perhaps I was a bit hasty. I've left a welcome message on the IP's talk page to smooth things over. Cheers - Samf4u (talk) 13:19, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Help

Hey Sam no worries man. Thanks for being really polite me. Just in case I haven’t said. I have autism so I struggle to understand things at times. But aeroperu 603 is personal to me that’s all which is why I work really hard on it that’s all. But yes I do have a questions. Do you trust the ASN database?

OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 20:53, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes the Aviation Safety Network is considered a reliable source. Many accident articles reference it. - Samf4u (talk) 21:01, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Thai Airways International Flight 261

Here's a photo of the HS-TIA, the A310 that crashed as Thai Airways International Flight 261: https://aviation-safety.net/photos/displayphoto.php?id=19981211-0&vnr=1&kind=PC

I tried to upload this photos myself (and yes I was aware of it's copyright status), but it got taken down. If you could add this, I would appreciate it. Thank you in advance. Tigerdude9 (talk) 15:41, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi Tiger, I have corresponded with Harro Ranter, the owner of that image, before. I believe he would give me permission to use it. I'll se what can be done. - Samf4u (talk) 16:52, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Heerema Marine Contractors user constantly deleting and reverting edits without discussion and leaves aggressive messages behind on my talk page

Hi Samf4u, I have been editing the Wikipedia article about Heerema Marine Contractors and I have only added information with refs, added a photo and have removed edits without any refs. However, a user called Ddalgleish is constantly deleting and reverting all edits without going into discussion about it with anyone. Ddalgleish has also left a rather aggressive and rude message on my own talk page. Ddalgleish has also reverted your edits in the article and Ddalgleish has also deleted your message on his own talk page. It seem like Ddalgleish is trying to delete all information about the Nazi history of Heerema Marine Contractors. Would you be able to protect this article from Ddalgleish? Thanks--Jrmikedome (talk) 20:29, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Jrmikedome:, Let me start by saying my revert at Heerema Marine Contractors was done strictly as anti-vandalism, as I noted the page had been blanked and that is almost always vandalism. I am not an administrator and can't protect any articles. Regarding the removal of warning templates: Any editor may remove a warning from his own talk page. I'd advise discussing the differences you two are having, preferably on the articles talk page. You could also start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history. Cheers, - Samf4u (talk) 21:16, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Den vassa eggen

Hi Samf4u. Regarding your reversion of my change to Den vassa eggen, is there a better word we could use for the Swedish word "pukor"? "Timpani" (the word I used) is a direct translation. Maybe "tom toms" would be more accurate? I'm helping out with the Wikipedia:Typo Team and the spelling scanner is choking on "pukor." Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenniferz (talk • contribs) 04:52, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Jenniferz:, Thanks for your note here. My revert of your edit was a mistake on my part as I mistook it as vandalism, please accept my apology. Timbal or Timbau is what I came up with as a translation. Thanks for you contributions to Wikipedia and do sign your name on Talk and vote pages using three tildes, like this: ~~~. Four tildes (~~~~) produces your name and the current date. - Samf4u (talk) 14:24, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	You've been beating me to rollbacks all night, great work and dedication! Moosehadley 02:57, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

@Moosehadley:, Thanks! You're not doing to bad yourself. - Samf4u (talk) 03:06, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

thank you for attention

Hi Samf4u,you deleted whole my work from takeoff article because I made grammatical errors.It's show you'r attention to this kind of article and also show you are professional in this knowledge.But if you noticed me my grammatical errors,I could find them and replace them with correct one and improve my English writing too. But thank you so much and I hope never make a mistakeForest90 (talk) 20:09, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Forest90:, You are welcome. - Samf4u (talk) 16:59, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Ran Ronen (Pekker)

Hey Eric I just started a page on Ran Ronen-Pekker and was hoping you could take a look at it (I’m pinging a few other editors too). There’s a dearth of online English language sources for him, so I pulled a lot of it from books, Hebrew websites, and his Hebrew Wikipedia page. I think the work needed is as follows: 1) Sourcing. I’m pretty sure everything on the page as of now is factual. If there is no ref, I probably got it either from a source which isn’t too reliable, or the Hebrew page. please help find a source as opposed to simply removing it. 2) Restructuring. 3) Clarification of the various bodies and organizations mentioned. I.e., squadrons and officer ranks might have a more correct English term for them. 4) wikilinking. 5) naming. In Hebrew most mention him as Ran Pekker. In English it’s usually Ran Ronen. 6) formatting Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated! Hydromania (talk) 03:22, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Hydromania:, Nice work on Ran Ronen-Pekker. I would suggest adding some Categories. Over all very well done. - Samf4u (talk) 13:30, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

The Phantom of the Opera

Quit reverting editing on The Phantom of the Opera page just because, you can't stand profanity! Rodger walter actually said it, it's in the source, read it. Besides ,Wikipedia is not censored, so you're going to see some curse words on it. Kay girl 97 (talk) 02:45, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Take it easy, I reverted myself before you posted this message. - Samf4u (talk) 02:46, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Bold text

'HI samf4u, the recent edits I made to the masked singers was correct, every animal should have THE in front of it'Bold text — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:401:C400:B4A8:1DCF:C5CE:F5D9:2E90 (talk) 03:44, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

You are mistaken, you added and I reverted "I believe the first person is Whitney Houstan" which is an opinion and you spelled Houston wrong. In the future please place your messages at the end of a talk page. - Samf4u (talk) 13:16, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism vs disruptive editing

Hi Samf4u, thanks for helping to deal with the now-blocked editor in the Kebab Turki Baba Rafi article. I just wanted to point out though, that what they were doing was not vandalism, which is a malicious and deliberate intention to damage Wikipedia. Editors who are edit-warring and pushing an unsourced POV or their own interests (as this user was), even if they disregard any and all content and behavior policies, are nevertheless not vandalizing. It's important to make that distinction if you're using Huggle/Rollback to revert edits without an edit summary, and especially if you revert multiple times. It means that you actually broke the three-revert rule today, and technically could have been blocked yourself for edit warring... For the same reason, it would have been better to use the "disruptive" warning template instead of "vandalism". Just something to keep in mind in the future, and thanks for your understanding. --IamNotU (talk) 17:41, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi @IamNotU:, Thanks for your note here. I understand the difference between vandalism and disruptive editing. I just discovered that when using Huggle it is possible to revert an edit and leave a custom edit summary. From now on I'll use this function if I feel the edit is disruptive and not vandalism. Cheers Samf4u (talk) 20:46, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

While writing this, I happened to notice some complaints above, about the use of rollback without edit summaries, and leaving vandalism templates, for problems such as grammar errors. Maybe you know this already, but instead of using the "revert and warn user" button in Huggle, I think you could avoid these complaints by using the "revert edit" button, and use the drop-down arrow to select an appropriate edit summary. This should be used when reverting good-faith edits that have errors. That way you avoid leaving unnecessary vandalism warnings that could upset the user, and could add up and get them in trouble. "Revert and warn user" with the default vandalism warning should only be used for intentionally destructive vandalism and nonsense edits. In the case where it's not clear whether a nonsense edit is malicious or just a mistake, you can use the drop-down arrow on the "revert and warn user" button to select the "test edits" template, or for edits that are unsourced POV-pushing, the "unsourced" template, and so on. I hope this helps... Your anti-vandalism work is much appreciated, and you definitely deserve the barnstars you've been awarded for it! --IamNotU (talk) 20:36, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks again for the info on Huggle usage. From now on I'll follow your guidelines. Samf4u (talk) 20:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Aeroflot Flight 593

You might have already seen this on the the talk page, but I agree with you about how we should keep the CVR transcript. I posted a lengthy response, but no one has responded back. Could they be thinking it over? Tigerdude9 (talk) 16:06, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Tigerdude9:, Will have to give it more time and see if anyone has more comments. If you wanted to take the time to work on a different format for the CVR in your sandbox you could present that on the talk page and see if you get any reaction. Good luck and thanks for your contributions. - Samf4u (talk) 17:20, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

@Samf4u: I finally made a better version of the transcript. It will be collapsible so it doesn't take up the whole article, and the commentary in italics has been removed (though I have another version where I kept the commentary):

Aeroflot Flight 593 CVR Transcript
[] = Editorial insert; ... = Pause;
Time	Source	Content
2258	Eldar	Why's it turning?
2259	Kudrinsky	I don't know why it's turning
2260	Eldar	Yes ... it is
2261	Kudrinsky	I don't know why it's turning
2266	Eldar	Is it going off-course?
2266	Makarov	Could it be some kind of zone?
2267	Piskaryov	We've gone into a zone, a holding pattern
2268	Kudrinsky	Have we?
2269	Piskaryov	Of course we have.
2270	Makarov	Guys ...
2272	Kudrinsky	Hold it! Hold the control column
2275	Makarov	The speed ...
2276	Piskaryov	The other way!
2277	Kudrinsky	To the left! To the left!
2280	[Sound of altitude alert]
2281	Piskaryov	Left!
2281	Kudrinsky	Left... The other way!
2282	[Sound of stall warning]
2282	Piskaryov	Left!
2284	Eldar	I am turning it left!
2284	Piskaryov	To the right!
2285	Kudrinsky	To the right
2287	[Sound of altitude alert]
2288	Piskaryov	Can't you see, or what?
2291	Piskaryov	Turn right. Turn right! Turn right!
2292	[Sound of autopilot disconnect warning starts and continues until impact]
2297	Kudrinsky	RIGHT!
2298	Piskaryov	To the left. There's the ground!
2303	Kudrinsky	Eldar, get out ... Climb back out ... Climb back out, Eldar. You see the danger, no?
2314	Piskaryov	Throttles to idle!
2319	Kudrinsky	Eldar, get out! Get out, Eldar, get out ... Get out, Eldar, get out, get out ... get out ... [gasping] get out ... Get out, I say!
2334	Piskaryov	Full power! Full power! ... Full power!
2336	Kudrinsky	Got full power, got it
2337	Piskaryov	Full power!
2338	Kudrinsky	Got it ...
2340	Piskaryov	Full power!
2346	Kudrinsky	I gave it full power, I gave it
2348	Piskaryov	What's the speed?
2350	Makarov(?)	Look on the left, it's three-forty
2354	Kudrinsky	... Okay ... [sobbing] Full power!
2365	Piskaryov	Speed is very high
2367	Kudrinsky	High, is it?
2368	Piskaryov	Yes, isn't it?
2369	Kudrinsky	I switched it off
2371	Piskaryov	We're coming out, coming out!
2377	Kudrinsky	Done
2382	Piskaryov	Gently! ... Shit, not again
2388	Kudrinsky	Don't turn it right! The speed [unintelligible]
2392	Piskaryov	There!
2393	Kudrinsky	We'll get out of this. Everything's fine ... Gently [unintelligible], gently ... Pull up gently!
2400 (17:58:01 UTC)	[Sound of impact, end of recording]

How does it look? Also, you're welcome for my contributions. Tigerdude9 (talk) 16:36, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Tigerdude9: I like that it's collapsible but I'm afraid we won't get a consensus to add it to the article as it is quite similar to what got removed. Take a look at United Airlines Flight 93 starting with the "Hijacking" section. See how the transcript is woven into the text? That's what we need here. Reference #13 of Aeroflot Flight 593 is the complete accident report in Russian. If we could translate it there may be enough detail to mimic the United Airlines Flight 93 article. Keep in mind this only my opinion. - Samf4u (talk) 19:41, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

The Aviation Safety Network has an English version of the report. Tigerdude9 (talk) 20:34, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

That's excellent! Some of that dialog with the time spoken could be incorporated into the article. - Samf4u (talk) 20:41, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

A little more care with Huggle please

Hi, can you just take a little more care when reverting edits using Huggle. This and this while they might have removed some sub-optimal promotional material re-introduced an uncited BLP issue regarding the subject. So please check the diffs before reverting especially if you are going to revert several edits, sometimes it's better to do things manually. Thanks, Nthep (talk) 16:57, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Nthep:, After reviewing those edits I understand your concern. At times I get a little trigger happy with Huggle which produces unacceptable results. I will work to improve this. Thank you. - Samf4u (talk) 18:04, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Cheers. Nthep (talk) 18:31, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Columbia TN

The focus on Columbia Tennessee's history of racisim is absolutely revalavant and should be acknowleged in depth on the city's page as well as the pages of many other southern towns who have in the past committed the same crimes against humanity. As an African-American living in Columbia, I know that is not an accurate depiction of present day Columbia, and should not be the focus of the information available on this city's page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.211.21.162 (talk) 19:46, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Take it to the articles talk page and read Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia while your at it. - Samf4u (talk) 19:56, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

BDS

What was your objection to my edit on the article "Political Positions of 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary Candidates?" I added a reliably sourced and relevant update to Elizabeth Warren's position on BDS. If I made an error, I would appreciate it if you explained where I went astray. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.56.84.151 (talk) 05:08, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Yep, The error was mine. - Samf4u (talk)

Please explain in what way the picture contributes to the article, and explain why you intentionally add a wrong description

Please explain in what way the picture contributes to the article, and explain why you intentionally add a wrong description 91.10.38.141 (talk) 19:02, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Here is an article you should read before making further contributions to the WIkipedia:

WP:AGF 91.10.38.141 (talk) 19:03, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

I made an honest mistake in reverting you. Thought you removed a different image. I never accused you of vandalism. - Samf4u (talk) 19:12, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

You called it "disruptive". That's even more devious, because it's Wikipedia's way to brand anything one does not like, and nonetheless carries sanctions. 91.10.38.141 (talk) 00:29, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Why don't you look up the definition of the words "honest mistake". Do NOT respond to this message. You are not welcome on this talk page. - Samf4u (talk) 16:39, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

John Dunlap House

Eric,

Hi! I'm not sure what "reliable source" to use when speaking of the sale of this home in 1946 by my great-aunt, Martha Ellison Gilman. I'd like to know what the "reliable source" was for the original citation that the home passed out of the family in 1929.'Bold text' In that year, 3 of the 4 children of Charles Jervis Gilman were still living in the home - Charles Ashburton, Elizabeth Jervis, and Mary Gardiner. The eldest, David Dunlap Gilman, had died in December 1914, six months after Martha married Charles in her home town of Richmond, VA. My grandmother and mother moved into the home in 1936. Charles died 8-8-1937, Elizabeth died 12-18-1938 and Mary, who had been head librarian of the Curtis Memoral Library in Brunswick for 41 years, died 10-7-1940. None of Charles Jervis Gilman's 4 children had children of their own, so the home was inherited by Martha. I do have a copy of Mary's will stating such. As the trust of Gardiner Gilman of New Hampshire, which had supported the four siblings, ceased upon Mary's death, Martha maintained the home as long as she could. She held two auctions of the furnishings and then sold the home in 1946. I do not have a bill of sale but I do have newspaper articles advertising the sale. Unfortunately, these are packed for our upcoming move from Missouri to Delaware on March 20.

Yes, after the sale this house was turned into apartments. It is a sad sight today. The stately grounds are gone. A line of trees has been planted right up to the former front door and a house has been built immediately on the other side. The flower and vegetable gardens have been replaced by a parking area for the tenants. The house is in poor condition. My father attended Bowdoin College so I have had many occasions to see the home over the years, most recently in 2016 when we scattered some of my mother's ashes at Saganook, the summer home on Casco Bay which Martha owned from 1922-1946. 1946 was a tramatic year for my mother, losing both of the homes with which she was most familiar.

Please advise - Charlotte Sandquist PhillipsDtrofspandex (talk) 12:30, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Charlotte/@Dtrofspandex:, Thanks for the information about your family and the John Dunlap House. The 1929 date came from From the Falls to the Bay: A tour of historic Brunswick, Maine, its reference number 3 in the John Dunlap House article. I searched for more info about your family and the John Dunlap House aka Gilman Mansion but did not find much. If we could find any reliable, third-party, published sources we could amend the article reflecting on what those sources say. If you do find them I can help you with adding the inline citations. You might try finding some of the books listed in the bibliography section at the bottom of From the Falls to the Bay: A tour of historic Brunswick, Maine. There is also the Pejepscot Historical Society and the National Register of Historic Places listings in Portland, Maine. The correct info is out there and when you find it I'll be more than happy to help improve the article. Good luck. - Samf4u (talk) 13:49, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

A beer for you!

For having the patience to deal with some petty stuff that someone just has to. Pudeo (talk) 09:19, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Pudeo: Yeah, he's a piece of work. A refreshing beer is always welcome. Thanks I needed that! - Samf4u (talk) 15:42, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

My Edits to Gatecoin

Why are you removing my edits to the Gatecoin page in Which I state Aurellien Menant is corrupt and stole people's Ethereum? Myself and may others can show our accounts to prove this happened so it is 100% accurate and constructive. To Leave the nonsense you already have on there is the non-constructive lies.

I reverted your edit because it was unreferenced. To add content such as that you would need to have a reliable source. Your edit also introduced format errors. I'm sure you understand Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a blog. Thanks, - Samf4u (talk)

Regarding the warning

Please see my talk page and Deeday UKs talkpage I wrote an essay on their. OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 16:47, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

You all dislike the way I edit on Wikipedia, when it comes to the way I’ve done summaries, dates and rewording stuff. Look I do not ignore you, I see some now I say some of the advice you give me is were I disagree, I always stood by reliability, I always have, yes I keep summaries short and I tend to try and make them in order whenever possible, but I’d like to open a discussion about my recommendations as I feel like A) the wording of some stuff does not sound right when you say it out loud. B) the way captions are done on images, I think they should be done as: registration, aircraft involved / similar and then month and year. C) summaries should not be very vague saying Crahsed on landing for example. It doesn’t state why it happened or what caused it. As with just about every accident you have a reason on what caused said accident. I love being here don’t get me wrong, but I was a huge user before I joined as my courses at college relied on your references and info. And countless times there are things that are worded correctly, I find this frustrating as yes it should be in clear English, but there are the same pages made in a different language. Look my autism is not making a mess, as I am very observant when something is out of order, why don’t I voice my opinion on the talk page? Because all I get is it’s always be like that and I would like to hold some kind of big discussion, it might seem impossible but I can’t keep my mind off some the things that sound incorrect. Please understand I am not here to be a pain or make you all think I’m taking the crap. OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 18:22, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

My reverted paper

Ok, but did you trash my paper becoise it was rly good and i would like to have it. Takeitfromchlo (talk) 00:38, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

I'm sure you understand this is an encyclopedia, not facebook or a blog, thanks. - Samf4u (talk) 00:42, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes i do understand that. Also you are correct our papers were very different. Yours was.. boring (in the most factual way) no offense and mine was helpful to our generation. Thanks Takeitfromchlo (talk) 00:56, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Aeroméxico Connect 2431

@Samf4u: Hi Sam, look I know we’ve gotten into some heat lately but I’d like your help regarding another contributor trying to mess around with the summary of Aeroméxico connect 2431. I’ve told them the information you gave me about it summarising the accident and not needing all causes but they insist it is better. He’s noted his change in the talk page of the article. OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 22:12, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi @OrbitalEnd48401:, Collaboration until a consensus is reached on the articles talk page is the way to go here, good job. Left my comments at Talk:Aeroméxico Connect Flight 2431. - Samf4u (talk) 13:39, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

All good man, appreciate it. OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 14:06, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Editing

Hello Samf4u, The edits made on Paul_Kuhr were researched, annotated, and public information, and part of a story that makes his lyrics what they are, and topical to the artist and his band. I have also reached out to the artist and specifically asked if he was OK with these additions, and he was. Feel free to do the same if you need his approval. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heavy Metal Archives (talk • contribs) 02:21, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Heavy Metal Archives, I think you're barking up the wrong tree. Last time I interacted with you was June 2018. Cheers - Samf4u (talk) 02:28, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

white ethnostate

i made several errors , but the restoration of australia and replacement of White separatism with White supremacy is constructive edit 83.185.88.34 (talk) 14:20, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Agree. Please take a little more time and use the Show preview button before Publish changes to avoid being reverted again. Thanks, - Samf4u (talk) 14:35, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

sorry again, i wanted a grammatically correct version of the edit summary 83.185.87.115 (talk) 14:37, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Google+

Hello Samf4u,

I am contacting you as to let you know that Google+'s site had a overload, rather a closure as you think. The site is still up and i urge you to check it yourself.

Cheers, Zach11.

Hi Zach11 and thanks for your note here. It wasn't so much the content you added as the way you added it, specifically "GOOGLE PLUS FOREVER". I'm sure you understand WP is an encyclopedia and not a blog. Thanks. - Samf4u (talk) 21:01, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

2003 Baghdad DHL attempted shootdown incident

@Samf4u:The aircraft part is missing from the infobox. OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 12:35, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Would you be able to sort it out possibly today? I am really stuck. OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 14:07, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Because of the template chosen by the articles creator some infoboxes don't show "Aircraft". There's nothing really wrong with that. I'll do this one and if you come across others and would like to change them just look at the diff of my revision, it's quite easy. - Samf4u (talk) 16:29, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Hello! Correct-44 (talk) 13:38, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
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A barnstar for you!

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A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar

I am sorry. English is not my mother language. I don't speak and I don't understand English sentences. But I know the ancient Greeks pronounced the name "Anchises" actually: /aŋkʰíːsɛːs/ So I am assuming the article about the historic Anchises is maybe absolutely wrong. All readers should be given a warning of reading wrong information at wikipedia. Why can we read such incorrect pronunciations like /ænˈkaɪsiːz/ here? I think /ænˈkaɪsiːz/ is absolutely incorrect. Maybe /ɑːnˈkiːseɪz/ ist correct as well. Correct-44 (talk) 14:13, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Correct-44, On 23 November 2018 this was brought up on the articles talk page here. Please discuss it there. Thank you. - Samf4u (talk) 13:56, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism by Benmiles21

I reverted a couple more of this user's edits and so far none of the edits seem constructive. Please watch the user in case they do more vandalism. 2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:C8C3:1FD7:505A:4764 (talk) 05:01, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi 2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:C8C3:1FD7:505A:4764|2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:C8C3:1FD7:505A:4764, Good work, thanks! I'll keep an eye on them and if they do anymore disruptive editing we can report them at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. - Samf4u (talk) 06:25, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Secure coding

Hello Sam, this is my assignment Im studying Computer Science and my professor asked us to edit those sources, may I ask you the reason why you find the changes false — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nehirdemir (talk • contribs) 15:59, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Nehirdemir, You edits are disruptive because this is the English Wikipedia and your editing in a different language. - Samf4u (talk) 16:14, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Unconstructive

How is my edit unconstructive when I’ve done it countless times. If that is u constructive what about your edit here? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Turkish_Airlines_Flight_6491&diff=next&oldid=892425401 OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 18:11, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

@Samf4u: So how are my edits unconstructive? Giving me an template does not instantly solve the sanswer? If you are past caring and are not bothering to talk to me why send thag? I’m here to discuss said unconstructive edits which let’s get it clear it is not unconstructive if there are edits just like it. To say it’s not beneficial when I’ve done it how many times before? See my contributions page it’s a gold mine there on how hard I’ve been working. OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 10:16, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Are you going to reply? The message you sent said ‘leave a message on my talk page’ I have so please let’s discuss said unconstructive edits. You’ve brought it up so let’s dicuss. OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 11:40, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

I generally don't discuss anything with disruptive editors. - Samf4u (talk) 11:43, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

So I’ll make it nice and clear to you understand. Because if I’m such a disruptive editor I wouldn’t even be here, oh changing the date function and updating pages is disruptive. Well Sam I’ll make it clear to you, don’t even dare send me a message saying with the followe by lines ‘discuss on my talk page’ if you won’t disucss it. That’s incredibly annoying the fact that you provide no reason at. All. I can easily bring it up in incident talk page. Because if you are not bothering to talk to me at least provide clear and detailed reasons why. Apart from this ‘’ce’’. If I am that much of a problem to you being me up, honestly, do it, I don’t have a problem defending myself. Honestly you really take the cake. OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 14:38, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

IN GOD WE RUST

Please actually read the article, don't just blindly revert from IPs. In this case, "IN GOD WE RUST" is proper - that's the entire reason the Kansas quarter is notable. 50.253.46.2 (talk) 17:18, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

So you are bringing this up after more than a year.? Get over it. - Samf4u (talk) 00:57, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Edits on "solvent"

My edits are explained in their summaries. If you have questions about them, please ask, but they were made for reasons spelled out in the summaries and were not "tests" or "disruptive." 2607:FEA8:129F:E389:0:0:0:8CD1 (talk) 01:40, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

I mistook your edit as disruptive, I apologize. Thanks for your contributions. - Samf4u (talk) 01:45, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

ANI notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Regards, WaltCip (talk) 17:45, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Query

As I know the Muslims weren't defeated by the Byzantine Empire Jilanikhn (talk) 01:09, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Jilanikhn:, Thanks for your note here. I reverted your edit simply because it replace referenced material w/unreferenced. By citing sources for Wikipedia content, we enable users to verify that the information given is supported by reliable sources, thus improving the credibility of Wikipedia while showing that the content is not original research. Thanks for your contributions. - Samf4u (talk) 01:57, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

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A Barnstar for you!

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		This is for your valuable efforts for countering Vandalism and protecting Wikipedia from it's threats. I appreciate your effort. You are a defender of Wikipedia. Thank you. PATH SLOPU 13:40, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Path slopu! - Samf4u (talk) 13:43, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Reverts

Hello Samf4u, you left a message on my talk page, saying my edit to Major League Baseball All-Star Game was unconstructive. However, I was reverting an unconstructive edit myself. Can you explain how my edit was disruptive? Thank you - Gorkypickeral (talk) 02:03, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Gorkypickeral:, While using Huggle I attempted to revert the same edit but you beat me to it by just a second or two and as a result your edit was reverted and a message sent to your talk page automatically by huggle. This happen occasionally and I will fix it manually, however this one slipped by me. I have removed the template from your talk page, please accept my apology. Thanks for your contributions. - Samf4u (talk) 13:12, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Hey @Samf4u:, thanks for the explanation. Keep improving Wikipedia! - Gorkypickeral (talk) 17:39, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

RE: The Ethiopian Air Flight reversion

The facts were correct. 149 people died in that crash. Boeing manufactures the plane, the MAX, the one that was recalled worldwide due to the two crashes, the one this year, and the one last year. As of right now (17 June 2019), it is the deadliest incident of any kind in 2019 involving any aircraft, jet or otherwise (crash, error, terrorism, hijacking, etc.). The source was valid: USA Today articles are perfectly legitimate sources for matters not requiring a journal article (science or medicine). What is the issue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.47.132 (talk) 03:01, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Please read the referenced sources. 149 Passengers PLUS 8 crew = 157 killed. - Samf4u (talk) 03:08, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

All I said was This It is to be seen what Alarms.org will do with the core business of KidRex technologies.

Aaron Justin Giebel (talk) 01:58, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

No, that is NOT all you said. - Samf4u (talk) 02:03, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Rotary vs. Radial Engine

A radial engine has pistons arranged in a radial or circular pattern with pushrods and crankshaft. A rotary engine, also called a Wankel rotary engine has no pistons and no crankshaft. It has one or more often triangular rotors to turn a driveshaft with gear teeth instead. The radial engine was used in ww 1 airplanes. The rotary engine which did not exit until later was used in some Mazda cars such as the RX-7, and in some small helicopters. Thoughts of resulting confusion from the mixing of these terms is infuriating, after I set about correcting it and the problematic know-it-all uncorrected it all over again. Do you also call every V8 a Hemispherical engine or Hemi? I hope not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.252.16.121 (talk) 13:02, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

You are misinformed sir. PLEASE read Wankel engine and Rotary engine. Also do remain civil and sign your posts. - Samf4u (talk) 13:06, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Surprising that this misinformed person only mucked up a couple of articles, given the number of references to (non-Wankel) rotary engines.TheLongTone (talk) 10:40, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @TheLongTone:, Agree! He must have had a great moment of discovery when he learned the prop was fixed to the cylinder's and they all rotate together (as I did long ago). Cheers! - Samf4u (talk) 13:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing....TheLongTone (talk) 12:09, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Re: Speedy deletion request of List of Cricket World Cup centuries

Please be a little more careful when throwing up speedy deletion requests and check the page history. That page had been edited so that the main list was removed by an IP. It has a page history going back to 2009 and is a featured list in cricket. Definitely not a speedy delete. Thank you! Sasquatch t|c 17:29, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Sasquatch:, That was a mistake on my part, thanks for bringing it to my attention. Cheers - Samf4u (talk) 17:36, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Problem

You call one of my edits unconstructive. All I said is It is to be seen what Alarms.org will do with the core business of KidRex technologies.Aaron Justin Giebel (talk) 01:59, 23 June 2019 (UTC) Aaron Justin Giebel (talk) 22:22, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

My edit unconstructive?

I have gone through your talk page and see this has been an issue. Please do not do that. I agree with samf4u. I am not trying to be mean, just please stop :)Aaron Justin Giebel (talk) 22:24, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

I meant to say other editors and not your username. Aaron Justin Giebel (talk) 22:33, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

I agree with them. Aaron Justin Giebel (talk) 22:34, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

You must be joking. On June 22 to the article KidRex you added Yeah, I know. Trump sucks! Don't get the wrong idea here. I hate Trump. I just don't want people to talk about politics or swear here. I reverted your edit as "nonconstructive". Do you believe that your edit was an improvement to the article? I wish you the best in your contributions to Wikipedia. - Samf4u (talk) 01:50, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

I did not. Please stay out of my Business . Cheers! Aaron Justin Giebel (talk) 20:33, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Not only are you a liar but you can't spell either. - Samf4u (talk) 20:37, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

What you said was not Professional and does not reflect well on a wikipedia editor. I cannot spell because I am a kid. I said the trump stuff because I hit the paste button on my computer by accident, and you undid a revision that had valuable content to the article added. Let's just be friends, and stop the fighting. Perhaps I can learn a thing or two about wikipedia from you. Aaron Justin Giebel (talk) 18:05, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Fine, I'll be glad to help you, just admit that you made the addition to KidRex shaded in green above and we can move on. - Samf4u (talk) 18:16, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Um, Did you read what I said?Aaron Justin Giebel (talk) 18:29, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

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Hi Aaron Justin Giebel, Glad to see you joined a training workshop and congratulations on creating your first article.

Concerning the conversation above, anyone reading it would think you admitted to the unconstructive Trump bit before I asked you to. But you and I know you edited that paragraph after I asked for your admission of guilt, and that is dishonest. - Samf4u (talk) 13:15, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

no, I did not mean it like that. I just edited it instead of starting a new section. We good? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron Justin Giebel (talk • contribs) 17:46, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

I really don't feel guilty. My edit was an accident when I pressed the paste button on my computer and accidently published my article. I admit that I said that on accident. You won't get any more out of me. I am not dishonest. I thought I could just edit thatg section instead of having to make a new paragraph. I know that I am not a liar. So for the record, I freely admit "Guilt" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron Justin Giebel (talk • contribs) 04:00, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

HD139139

Hard to make edits as a new user. Here is the deal. The discovery for HD139139 was made by visual surveyors (citizen scientists) as written in the science paper. That should be part of this page. Sources for Andrew Vanderburg's comments for Earth Transit viewing from the star system was made by him via email. How do I give a citation for that? Also the calculations I wrote are step by step insturctions by Andrew Vanderburg.

I find it hard to work with the protocol in writing on the page.

Thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom98006 (talk • contribs) 00:22, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Tom98006:, Thanks for your note here. Information added to articles should be based on reliable, published sources and cited properly. Please see Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Generally Youtube is not considered a reliable source. You are correct, editing is difficult for new users as WP has a steep learning curve. If you can find a reliable source for the info you'd like to add I'll gladly help you add it to the article with the correct inline citations. Thanks for your contributions to WP and don't give up, It gets easier as you go and I will help you to the best of my abilities. Best - Samf4u (talk) 12:56, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

AIV

Hi,

With this, I think you got the wrong user. Adam9007 (talk) 17:42, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

You are correct, thank you. - Samf4u (talk) 17:43, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Air India Flight 101

Hi Sam: On AI 101, and the murder of Homi Bhabha by the CIA, The reliable reference is the book by the Journalist Gregory Douglas, with the CIA officer, Robert T. Crowley, titled "Conversations with the Crow". Please reinstate my edits. Crowley wanted the information released after his death. Thanks, Mohan.

Hi Mohan and thanks for your note here, In the future please start a new talk page message at the page bottom or hit the "New section" button the very top of each talk page. I think you have a valid point. I urge you to start a discussion on the Air India Flight 101 talk page. I'd be willing to add a properly reference section myself but I can't for 4-5 days. Good luck to you. - Samf4u (talk) 22:42, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Deaths in March 2014

It seems that I forgot to log in, when making this edit recently. I am only a constructive editor, and if I make changes it's usually based on confirmed facts within the existing reference/s of the article/s, as you would see if you looked further, instead of jumping to conclusions. Your recommendation to discuss them first on the talk page/s sounds fine in theory, but doesn't work in practice (which you can confirm with other editors "in the know"), if the article goes back in time i.e. years. I have left many messages for these, and cannot ever recall being answered. Editrite! (talk) 23:01, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Editrite!:, Thanks for you contributions to WP and your note here. Please do not accuse me of jumping to conclusions.

The fact is, two of your edits that I reverted added info not found in the source given. *Billy Mundi, 71, American drummer and *Joseph F. Weis, Jr., 91, American judge. I could go on to quote lots of WP guidelines but because you are a "new editor" I'll refrain. In the future please remember to criticize edits and not editors. Best - Samf4u (talk) 00:24, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced

G'day everyone, voting for the 2019 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:37, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Block warnings

I blocked the IP, since it was fairly blatant vandalism, but do please try to warn editors at least once. thank you - KillerChihuahua 16:21, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi @KillerChihuahua:, I was using Huggle and was mistakenly hitting the "Revert edit" button instead of the "Revert edit and warn a user" button. Thanks for your note here and Happy editing, - Samf4u (talk) 16:34, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

The Evils of Huggle!  :-D No worries. KillerChihuahua 16:57, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	You keep beating me to reverts! DannyS712 (talk) 02:26, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi @DannyS712:, Thanks! Keep up the good work! - Samf4u (talk) 02:30, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

A beer for you!

No problem, more than happy to help. Denisarona (talk) 14:54, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Denisarona, a cold one is always welcome! - Samf4u (talk) 14:58, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Huggle False Positive

hey, you used huggle to rollback this edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Columbian_exchange&diff=prev&oldid=916372499&diffmode turns out that you undid a edit REMOVEING vandlism, a helpful IP noticed this and has fixed it, please be more carful, I have made the same mistake a few times so I know how it is. Happy Editing! LakesideMiners^{My Talk Page} 16:01, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi LakesideMiners, Thanks for pointing out my mistake. I'll slow down a little. Cheers! - Samf4u (talk) 16:11, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

he actually appreciates the comments and has personally thanked the fans for the song. I’m happy to discuss further if you wish but your assessment is not in touch with the situation

Your edits were not helpful to the article and were reverted by myself and another experienced editor. - Samf4u (talk) 14:14, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Barnstar!!

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Hi Path slopu, Thanks for the barnstar and your contributions! - Samf4u (talk) 15:08, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

PH Helment

@Samf4u: I was trying to roll back the edit that changed gas mask to ass mask. If I unintentionlay changed it back to ass mask it was not my intent. I think we can both agree that ass mask is not correct.

Yep, all good . I've reported IP 173.81.178.218 at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Thanks for your help. - Samf4u (talk) 16:15, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Taxi Driver thanks

Thank you for the reverts/warning at Taxi Driver; still not great but much better. MartinSFSA (talk) 07:39, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi MartinSFSA, Always glad to help! - Samf4u (talk) 12:31, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Outward Bound Singapore

Hi, I am new to Wikipedia and I am not sure how to cite the sources. However, you could have did a simple Google search and find out that the information I have provided is true, instead of simply removing it which reversed all the effort that I have made. Wikipedia is a community effort. Whatever that you have did is rather discouraging.

--Sgben (talk) 05:29, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Sgben, I mistakenly reverted your edit, please accept my apology. In the future please place new messages at the bottom of a talk page. - Samf4u (talk) 12:49, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

TY

for this one. Not only is it a favorite of mine, but it's actually an article I link to on my user page. Somehow a "ping thanks" didn't seem to be quite enough. I appreciate that it's either on your watchlist, or that you caught it in a recent changes patrol. Thanks again. — Ched (talk) 15:31, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Ched, You are welcome, always glad to help, Cheers! - Samf4u (talk) 16:07, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Germanwings Flight 9525

Hi, i've noticed you've been disagreeing about the callsign. I'd like to ask : DO YOU KNOW HOW FLIGHT DESIGNATOR Codes work ?

GWI18G is actually an ICAO code but may be referenced to as a callsign because it appears on ATC screens but, is therefore interpreted as :"Germanwings 18 Golf" (Golf is the phonetic word for "G". T.Man21flex (talk) 13:15, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi T.Man21flex, I know how they work. Do You? You made an edit summary stating "Though the numbers and letters after the first 3-digits on the ICAO code are always included in the callsign !". You may want to take a look at National Airlines Flight 102 where the ICAO# and the call sign have nothing in common. Also please remain civil at all times. Shouting on a users talk page is considered rude.

I have started a discussion concerning call sign nomenclature here, please join in if you like. - Samf4u (talk) 17:26, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Saying stuff like this when someone validly contests one of your many hasty redactions is rude.

"So you are bringing this up after more than a year.? Get over it."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.131.128.4 (talk) 21:07, 29 October 2019 (UTC) 

In the process of reverting enormous amounts of vandalism I have made some errors, it comes with the territory. You are right, I should have been nicer to that IP. - Samf4u (talk) 17:05, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

It's actually a big problem with you. Will be keeping an eye on your edits. 165.225.38.30 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:42, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

I don't know from under what rock you have crawled my little friend, but please do watch and learn, as I will be watching you as well. - Samf4u (talk) 14:44, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Not going to get into a pissing contest, as that shouldn't be what Wiki is about, but given the large percentage of your edits that get re-reverted, I don't think there is much to learn from you. I'm just passing along observations from admins, no rock crawled out from under. Have a good day, friend, and Happy Holidays! 165.225.38.30 (talk) 15:06, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

162.39.235.114

user:162.39.235.114 is already blocked, and she has the right to delete messages from her talkpage. CLCStudent (talk) 17:00, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

CLCStudent I understand user/talk page rights. I was restoring undesirable results of using Huggle with this IP. Don't really see how such a proficient vandal has any rights here anyway. - Samf4u (talk) 17:10, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Korean Air Cargo 8509

Hi,

I added South Korea–United Kingdom relations since it was a Korean Air Aircraft which crashed in the United Kingdom and investigated by the AAIB. Also there are many articles of Aviation Accidents/Incidents that have Country1–Country2 relation categories

thanks for understanding,

Drew005

Merry Christmas!

Hello Samf4u: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Everedux ^(talk) 18:42, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message

Thanks Everedux! Happy holidays to you and yours. - Samf4u (talk) 23:46, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy New Year Samf4u!

Happy New Year!

Hello Samf4u:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve the encyclopedia for Wikipedia's readers, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, Donner60 (talk) 23:06, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks (static)}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.

Thank you Donner60, happy new year to you! - Samf4u (talk) 14:45, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Recent Edit

	Recent Edit
	You recently notified me that an "edit" I'd made had been changed. The "edit" was an obvious typo. Not sure why you didn't realize that. Feel free to fix typos that people make, but please don't waste my time by letting my know that you fixed my change of "State Prison" to "Ugkskfjdsljfslj." Thanks. Eduardohutch (talk) 16:54, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

@Eduardohutch: What in the world are you talking about? The last edit you made before this on my talk page today was in Feb of 2017. Can you please show me what you are on about? Is it possibly an edit you made using an IP address? - Samf4u (talk) 17:04, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

yeah! don't discourage — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron Justin Giebel (talk • contribs) 04:22, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

March Madness 2020

G'day all, March Madness 2020 is about to get underway, and there is bling aplenty for those who want to get stuck into the backlog by way of tagging, assessing, updating, adding or improving resources and creating articles. If you haven't already signed up to participate, why not? The more the merrier! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC) for the coord team

Sorry for bothering you, but...

New Page Patrol needs experienced volunteers

• New Page Patrol is currently struggling to keep up with the influx of new articles. We could use a few extra hands on deck if you think you can help.
• Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; Wikipedia needs experienced users to perform this task and there are precious few with the appropriate skills. Even a couple reviews a day can make a huge difference.
• If you would like to join the project and help out, please see the granting conditions and review our instructions page. You can apply for the user-right HERE. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)}_{(click me!)} 20:21, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

No bother at all Insertcleverphrasehere. I've got permission to patrol new pages and will try to help out. - Samf4u (talk) 19:41, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Samf4u, Welcome to the team! — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)}_{(click me!)} 19:46, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you Swarm. - Samf4u (talk) 19:42, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

71.223.145.161

Just a heads-up that the other IP user re-vandalized the page almost immediately after your revert, and it stuck around for over a week. I've reverted it again but a block might be in order. 67.70.165.140 (talk) 01:56, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi 67.70.165.140, Thanks for your note here and for reverting that vandalism. I've left a stronger worded warning on that IP's talk page and will keep an eye on their edits. Thanks! - Samf4u (talk) 14:50, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Titanic II

Thank you for reverting the recent edit of Titanic II. There are two replica Titanic projects going on. The Romandisea Titanic is under construction in China, although it is proceeding very slowly. That one will be permanently moored in a reservoir and won't be going anywhere. The Clive Palmer project is intended to be an ocean-going vessel. It is not under construction but marine architectural firm Deltamarin says that they are still engaged in the project. A shipyard contract has not been announced. If curious you can review the Titanic II talk page with the editorial comments regarding the progress (more accurately, lack thereof) of this project. Blue Riband► 15:34, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Blue Riband, Thanks for the info, I was not aware there are two Titanic projects. Cheers! - Samf4u (talk) 17:56, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Inconsistiency Between UPS Airlines Flight 6 '"See also" Section and Asiana Airlines Flight 991 "See also" Section

Hello, Samf4u. I noticed that when you reverted part of my edit on the Asiana Airlines Flight 991 article, you removed ValuJet Flight 592 from the "See also" section. However, ValuJet Flight 592 still appears on the UPS Airlines Flight 6 article. Should I re-add ValuJet Flight 592 to the Asiana Airlines Flight 991 article or remove it from the UPS Airlines Flight 6 article? Thank you. Why can't I edit Userpedia? (talk) 02:06, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Why can't I edit Userpedia?:, UPS Airlines Flight 6 and Asiana Airlines Flight 991 are very similar. ValuJet Flight 592 while also caused by a fire differs in several ways. It was a scheduled passenger flight using a different aircraft type and the source oif the fire was dissimilar. It is my opinion that ValuJet Flight 592 be removed from UPS Airlines Flight 6. In case you are not aware of Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Style guide/Layout (Accidents), please have a look. I consult it all the time. Happy editing! - Samf4u (talk) 14:21, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Saynotodrugs12 (talk) 19:02, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for abusing you

I am sorry for abusing you. To be honest, right before I was blocked I was going to comment on your talk page and abuse you like WilliamJE, by saying you'll quot Twitter just like the European colonialists quit their colonial territories.

I crossed a line by abusing you in edit summaries and by trying to comment on your page, even if I did it in anger out of being told what to do. That was no excuse for my behaviour, I knew it was wrong but I discarded it after getting furious. I've realised that I cannot simply do what I want, like I did at the Karachi plane crash article, even if I feel it is incorrect. For that I'll like to apologise. Please accept it. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 17:16, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Please stop reverting vandalism before I can revert vandalism. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 17:26, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi @P,TO 19104:, Welcome to Wikipedia, looks like you are off to a great start. Thanks for your efforts to revert vandalism and the barnstar! Cheers - Samf4u (talk) 17:35, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Your welcome, you know I'm jealous because using Twinkle is so much slower. I'm not sure how using Huggle can be any faster. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 17:39, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

I've never tried Twinkle so I can't comment about that. BTW... I noticed the "This editor has been thanked by these Wikipedians" userbox you have and liked it so much I copy/pasted it to my user page. Thanks! - Samf4u (talk) 17:50, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Air India Flight 182

Does the fact that Jennie Adams the Ticket agent who let the terrorists bag and bomb on to the plane when the terrorist had no ticket and therefore the bag should not have been allowed onto the plane according to the anti terrorist rules at the time have anything to do with why the plane blew up? YES it does! So you are saying the bomb she let on the plane against the rules has nothing to do with the article even tho it explains how it happened?

How do you think the ONLY reason the plane was blown up by the terrorist? Is not constructive to the article?

Do you think disallowing such an important fact in a trial, paper even news paper report would be clearly biased reporting?

This is what I said "Does the fact that Jennie Adams the Ticket agent who let the terrorists bag and bomb on to the plane when the terrorist had no ticket and therefore the bag should not have been allowed onto the plane according to the anti terrorist rules at the time! Should it be in the article as it the ONLY reason the plane was blown up by the terrorist bomb that should not have been allowed on the plane!" Is anything incorrect with what I said? Which rule do you claim it breaks? How do you think it breaks that rule? Please explain! (I look forward to you avoiding the point) --HalloHelloHalloHello (talk) 22:55, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

The article as written is well balanced and everything you are blabbering about is in the article. Please read this next bit carefully: I never said that info dose not belong in the article because it is relevant. I reverted your senseless and unnecessary comment from the articles TALK page. Best of luck and to you and I hope you find the help you obviously need. - Samf4u (talk) 23:34, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Bigsworth chart board AfD

Thanks for starting the AfD for Bigsworth chart board, as I was.considering doing it myself. I usually use Twinkle, but haven't used Page Curation, so I don't know anything about it. It looks like it didn't create the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bigsworth chart board and only added a link to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2020 July 25. I don't know how to fix that. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 20:41, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

• I do know how to fix that, but I wouldn't know what the reason for deletion would be. Since it sounds like BilCat would also have a reason for deletion, I'll create the AfD and leave it open for Sam or Bil to explain the reason. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:15, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
  • The AfD is now created; it's up to you to explain the reasons why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bigsworth chart board. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:18, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Bad form on my part for not completing the AfD properly, real life issue needed immediate attention. So glad to see you active again Bilcat! Thank you Metropolitan90 for your help. - Samf4u (talk) 11:22, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

No worries, that happens sometimes. I hope all is well. - BilCat (talk) 18:55, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

IP Edits

Not everyone who edits under an IP address is incorrect. Please stop RV edits unless you know them to be incorrect as you did to the Oginga Odinga page. Here is the source which I have kindly corrected, https://www.britannica.com/biography/Oginga-Odinga — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.193.65.107 (talk) 21:11, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Sam was correct to revert the IP. Any contribution added can be removed if it's not cited. Another user, not an IP by the way, has added the citation to the article, which you should have done yourself. - BilCat (talk) 22:30, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

You are correct that the original IP did not add the the citation. It was me who added it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.193.65.107 (talk) 22:55, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

You put the citation in your edit summary, not in the article. That's not sufficient. It has to be cited in the article itself. - BilCat (talk) 23:07, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Check again, you're mistaken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.193.65.107 (talk) 23:08, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Here you go: [1]. It's in the edit summary, not the article. This is what it looks like when it's in the article which another editor did for you. - BilCat (talk) 23:20, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks @BilCat: for you assistance with this. @67.193.65.107:, While I agree that you are correct about all IP's not being wrong, it's about the only thing I can see you got right here. - Samf4u (talk) 14:39, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Encyclopædia Britannica

I replaced the misspelled "Enyclopedia Brittanica" with the correct spelling Encyclopædia Britannica. Shouldn't that be in order? --Vatten (talk) 13:57, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Vatten:, You are correct, my error. - Samf4u (talk) 14:03, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open

Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:06, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of "User:BurritoAlpaca"

User:BurritoAlpaca, a page you created, has been tagged for deletion, as it meets one or more of the criteria for speedy deletion; specifically, it is vandalism.

You are welcome to contribute content that complies with our content policies and any applicable inclusion guidelines. However, please do not simply re-create the page with the same content, or remove the speedy deletion tag from the page. You can contest the deletion by clicking the "Contest this speedy deletion" button inside the speedy deletion tag. You may also wish to read our introduction to editing and guide to writing your first article.

Thank you. Samf4u (talk) 21:07, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Edit request

Hi, thought I'd point out that you created the SPI report at Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/Polyarch as an edit request, but it seems you can move it to the correct title. (Twinkle makes reporting easier) – Thjarkur (talk) 22:10, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. - Samf4u (talk) 17:38, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

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September 2020

Hello, I'm Samf4u. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to I Am the Walrus—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thanks. Samf4u (talk) 18:02, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

October 2020

Hello, I'm Samf4u. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to Talk:Flappy Bird—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thanks. Samf4u (talk) 14:04, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Stop chasing your own tail, Sam! Sincerely, Neon (Talk) 18:15, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Concur. :) BilCat (talk) 19:39, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Neon Richards: and @BilCat:, Huggle warning templates I forgot (too lazy) to remove. Happy editing! - Samf4u (talk) 19:43, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

No worries, Sam. I've made mistakes like that with Twinkle. BilCat (talk) 19:45, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

As BilCat said, no worries, the main reason I sent that message in the first place was just because I found it quite funny. I knew straight away what happened so thought I'd just make a joke out of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neon Richards (talk • contribs) 21:52, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Sam it's me truck I'm so sorry I wont do it again on the Lewis thing Truck4445 (talk) 13:26, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@Truck4445:, All good. In the future please place new discussions at the bottom of a users talk page. - Samf4u (talk) 13:59, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Execution of Navid Afkari

The source of those articles was Navid Afkari in Persian Wikipedia and I translated it into English with the help of Google. Navid Afkari was an Iranian and for this reason there is more accurate and correct information in Persian Wikipedia. I also added this text to clear up the ambiguities of the viewers of this page Maniammmbrn (talk) 08:33, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Maniammmbrn: In the future please start a new talk page thread at the bottom of the page and include at least a mention of the article you are discussing, a link to it would be even better.

I left you a message on your talk page explaining why I reverted your edit. Did you click the link to include a citation and read/understand it? If not please do so. Thanks - Samf4u (talk) 14:39, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

gfa lawsuit

hey you said i was vandalising but i wasent lying and i just dont like how they got off from the hundreds i paid for a meisly 28$ and they lied to us me and my family so i just wanted to say sorry for putting the extra ends at the end but i just hate them — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.223.185.122 (talk) 16:42, 18 November 2020 (UTC) -yadier — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.223.185.122 (talk) 16:44, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Please understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a blog. Information added here should be properly referenced. Please read Wikipedia:Citing sources. - Samf4u (talk) 16:51, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-automatic rifles

I don't understand how the sentence "Semi-automatic rifles are an excellent candidate for self-defense" complies with Wikipedia's policy that articles present a neutral point of view. That's why I removed it. The material that was referenced was also not neutral, it was saying how great semi-automatics are, citing a gun enthusiast magazine. The point of the revision was not to describe laws but to explain that worldwide, it is rare for semi-automatic rifles to be used for civilian self-defense. This is accurate and neutral as far as I can see. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.219.227.30 (talk) 11:22, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Before we begin this discussion could you please explain why the IP who edited Semi-automatic rifle is located in Frankfurt Germany and your IP is in Egham United Kingdom? Thanks in advance for your explanation. - Samf4u (talk) 15:27, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Kaguya-sama

Hello, I saw you reverted my update of the Kaguya-sama manga chapters because it did not look constructive. May I know the reasoning for that? Is there a rule for when to update the titles because as far as I know, Chapter 210 (whose title really is Chika Fujiwara Really, Really, Really Wants to Eat) was released last Thursday. Many thanks! Xedophobic (talk) 18:37, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Xedophobic, I mistook your edit as vandalism which it is not. I've self reverted and removed the warning template from your talk page, please accept my apology. - Samf4u (talk) 20:46, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

The WikiEagle - January 2022

The WikiEagle

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Hello, I think you've erred here by reverting this ip edit, which has a good rationale (one I agree with) and especially in templating their talk page with a warning for what was actually a constructive edit. Valenciano (talk) 23:35, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Valenciano:, Yes the mistake was mine. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I've removed the warning template and left in its place a welcome message for 167.248.1.102. Samf4u (talk) 16:24, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

No problem, we all make mistakes, have a great holiday season if it applies! Valenciano (talk) 16:28, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

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Pope Paul VI

The page was linking to List of meetings between the Pope and the president of the United States, which is a red link. I was changing it to List of meetings between the pope and the president of the United States, which is the intended target. 2601:249:9301:D570:75E3:9832:AE3:7A50 (talk) 18:23, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

I'd like for you to answer the question I asked on the IP's talk page. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 18:28, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

@MJL: Sorry for being so dense and thanks for fixing my mistake. I've responded at the IP's talk page. Samf4u (talk) 19:20, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Your awesome!! Tedmcbur (talk) 18:52, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

@Tedmcbur: Thank You & happy editing! Samf4u (talk) 19:15, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Most of the work i do on wikipedia is removing vandalism. Tedmcbur (talk) 19:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2024

Hello, and thank you for removing vandalism from Billboard Year-End Hot 100 singles of 1961. We appreciate this, but unfortunately your edit was not successful in restoring the article to its pre-vandalised state. For future reference, it is better to deal with vandalism by checking the article's page history to determine how it appeared before it was vandalised. You can then restore the whole article, or the relevant part of it, to an appropriate earlier version. If you simply delete the visible vandalism then any content removed or overwritten by the vandal is lost. See How to deal with vandalism for details. Thank you. - Sumanuil. _{(talk to me)} 23:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

@Sumanuil: Yep, I got it. Thanks for fixing that. Samf4u (talk) 22:14, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2024

List_of_cultural_references_to_the_September_11_attacks

The content was not removed, it was moved to the correct section of the page. Rescue Me is a TV show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.104.209.71 (talk) 20:40, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

The content was not removed, it was moved to the correct section of the page. Rescue Me is a TV show. Ckessler (talk)

I think you are mistaken. Your edits are removing a large section of text. Please take a look and fix it. In the future all new talk page entry's belong at the bottom of the page. Samf4u (talk) 21:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

MoS - Manual of Style

Hello, what is wrong with the page of Pakistan International Airlines Flight 631 that you removed? 64.141.44.242 (talk) 00:45, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I saw you giving me a warning. But I don't fully understand why. Is it because I added many references? 64.141.44.242 (talk) 00:53, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

I see you restored the page. (Will the warning also be removed?) What is going on? 64.141.44.242 (talk) 00:57, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi 64.141.44.242, I noticed you changed aircraft to airplane while using Huggle. We almost always prefer aircraft. Thanks for your work on the article. I will remove the warning template on your talk page. Happy editing! Samf4u (talk) 00:59, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Ahh, I didn't know that, that I have to use the word aircraft. Strange that with such an edit the article is directly deleted. But thanks that everything is fixed again! 64.141.44.242 (talk) 01:03, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

User talk:68.133.1.10

Hi Samf4u, I was wondering if you could reply to my message on this IP's talk page when you get a chance. (Apologies if the ping didn't go through, or if I should have messaged you here rather than at that talk page in the first place.)

All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 05:20, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @A smart kitten:, You were correct to message me on the IP users talk page and I have left a response there. Thanks, Samf4u (talk) 21:59, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

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Question about your edits to "Chuggaaconroy"

Hi there Samf4u! I was hoping you could give me some insight about the recent hubbub of activity at a YouTuber's page, Chuggaaconroy, that I stumbled across when reviewing recent changes. I reverted an edit that you had in part contributed to, as I had some concerns on both sourcing and BLP "DUE" attention to fringe gossip. Then, when I saw how much more experienced you are, especially in protecting the encyclopedia, I figured that I might be missing something so I came to your talk :-)

I do not know who the subject of the page is, I'm an old fogey and totally out of the Youtube/gamer loop. However, I *did* see a bunch of IPs and accounts essentially warring to include what appears UNDUE gossip by my understanding of BLP guidelines: what particularly worried me was the edit warring over "he apologized for this reason, not that" etc, implying some POV/OR going on from different sides.

The reason I fully removed the statement in question is that it's sourced to two very unreliable-looking blogs with zero legitimacy that I can detect. The second one was, in fact, clearly one of those sites that generates AI-driven prose in response to frequent search engine queries (oh how they are the bane of the modern Internet, imo).

Perhaps I misread the situation, and again, you're clearly light-years ahead of me, so I trust your read on the situation much more than the apparent SPA IPs that are editing to get this into the article. Please let me know what your read on the situation is, and I'm happy to self revert if you have good reason for this bit of info being DUE at this time. However, I would want to search for a better source, as the two blogs cited previously really lack encyclopedic credibility from all I can see... if you think the info belongs I can do a little search and see if I can find a more appropriate source! Thanks and happy editing. Chiselinccc (talk) 04:13, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Chiselinccc:, My first edit to Chuggaaconroy on Feb 17 was while using Wikipedia:Huggle. I discovered an an edit by an IP address user with an edit count of 2, remove referenced material from the article with no edit summary. Usually I will revert such edits.

I should have done a better job of locating a reliable source for what I re included to the article.

I agree with you that it should be excluded for now. I have no dog in this fight and honestly couldn't care less about Chuggaaconroy.

Keep up the great work here, I think you're doing fine. Cheers! Samf4u (talk) 19:22, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Aw thank you for the explanation, and I totally get it! I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something, as I could see your level of meaningful contribution and don't want to undermine such efforts to protect the encyclopedia.

I have no dog in said fight either, hopefully the hubbub will settle down, lol. I hadn't come across Huggle yet but will be orienting myself to plain ole Twinkle this coming week, so someday I might get acquainted with tools like that too. Have a great day and thanks for all your work here, you definitely jumped out as someone I could trust for a "sanity check" on this matter and I'm glad we were able to concur ☺️🙌 Chiselinccc (talk) 23:18, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Gustavo Hamer

Hello. I changed Gustavo Hamer´s birthyear from 1800 to 1997. It seems you changed that back. May I ask why? I am currently watching him play football and he does not look like a 223 year old man. Cornelisprul (talk) 20:14, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Cornelisprul:, That was a mistake on my part. I have self reverted and removed the warning template from your talk page. Cheers! Samf4u (talk) 20:21, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Why?

What was wrong with this? You didn't explain. Drmies (talk) 15:54, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

The IP is adding Academy Award Best Film Editing to many films. All false. Samf4u (talk) 15:57, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Really? Verified right here for this movie. But even if they get it wrong, you should explain that in an edit summary. Drmies (talk) 16:03, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

And here for the French Connection. Drmies (talk) 16:05, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

I've made a big mistake here. I using the same source (https://www.oscars.org) But using the date the movie was made instead of the following year when the awards are given. Thanks for catching this. I'll apologize to the IP and fix the mess I made. Samf4u (talk) 16:09, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Sure thing--thanks. Please, next time, be more complete in your edit summaries when you're rolling something back. I saw your edits and was about to block the IP editor, who'd already been given a level-4 warning--but then I saw the warning was for this and I decided to look more carefully. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:17, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Instantly Reverting my edit on The Boring Company

Why did you appear to have an autorevert on The Boring Company page? I added safety information, and you immediately removed it. JKNZ99 (talk) 22:28, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi JKNZ99, You would need a reliable source to add that. There are useful links on your Talk Page. I suggest you read them. Thanks, Samf4u (talk) 22:59, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi, after attempts to complain on three and possibly more users' talk pages, I asked JKNZ99 to centralize the discussion at Talk:The Boring Company § Edit Reverting on positive additions - Negative Bias. While you have already explained your concerns here, it may be helpful if you could take a moment to do so on the article's talk page too. Thanks in advance and best regards ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:13, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Great thanks. So if I find another source, and add this information, you will not revert it?

Cheers JKNZ99 (talk) 00:50, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi User:ToBeFree, Thanks for your note here. Will do. Cheers! Samf4u (talk) 00:56, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi User:JKNZ99, We can continue this disscussion at Talk:The Boring Company § Edit Reverting on positive additions - Negative Bias. Thank you. Samf4u (talk) 00:59, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

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Reverted edit

Hi, regarding my recent edit on the capicua (protein) article that you recently reverted, I believe the edit is constructive because it fixes the grammar of the sentence (comparing the proteins not the species). 70.108.41.185 (talk) 22:22, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @70.108.41.185:, You are correct, My mistake while using Wikipedia:Huggle. I've self reverted and removed the warning template from your talk page. Samf4u (talk) 23:01, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Unconstructive edit

You reverted my edit to Inugami Korone for being unconstructive, even though all I did was add an r cat shell to it. May I have an explanation as to why you did this? 108.21.221.8 (talk) 11:17, 25 March 2024 (UTC) Inugami Korone

Hi @108.21.221.8:, My mistake while using Wikipedia:Huggle. I've self reverted and removed the warning templates from your talk page. Samf4u (talk) 15:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

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